1|000001|olivia|03-01-99|LAH|Testing how ugly this board is. 1|000002|purple|03-01-99|restless.org|You know you want to touch it. unfunfunf;]*purple* alien@restless.org anyhost.simplenet.com/kirsti 1|000001|Steve|03-01-99|LAH|Oh give yourself some credit Olivia; sheesh, you're a perfectionist 1|000001|Vince|03-02-99|LAH|Yeah, it's so ugly that I can't stand it! (just kidding)Anyway... la la laaaaaa... dee dee deeeeee... happy haaaaaaaa... happy meeeeeeee....:P 1|000002|olivia|03-02-99|restless.org|*LOL* This board isn't even UP yet and you're already advertising. 1|000002|purple|03-02-99|restless.org|I am not advertizing! There is nothing to advertize, I hope no one goes there. I was bored and wanted to post. :[ 4|000001|Clarity|03-02-99|parental issues|Does anyone know what to do with a father who won't listen when you want to comfort him? 1|000002|Steve|03-02-99|restless.org|Shame shame, Kirsti.You should advertise yourself instead in similar fashion; I'D respond Hi Olivia! 1|000001|Seraph|03-02-99|LAH|Its beautiful 4|000001|Seraph|03-02-99|parental issues|This is a hard question since everyones fathers are different but I have sort of been in that situation before and I would first approach him [As you seem to have done] but if he wouldn't listen then I would wait for some kind of sign that he wanted to be comforted. Its hard for parents to let their walls down and be comforted by their children because they often feel that they should be the ones doing all the comforting. 1|000001|andrea|03-02-99|LAH|it's simply delicious, if you put it on a plate I'd eat it all up. (;those image smileys are simply evil.-a 1|000003|olivia|03-02-99|domain owners|Did you actually know what you were going to do with your domain when you bought it?Did you buy it to do what everyone else was doing?Will you own your domain a couple years from now? 2|000001|olivia|03-02-99|curioso|What do you guys spend your time doing on the computer OUTSIDE of your homepage? 2|000001|Seraph|03-03-99|curioso|I spend it visiting the same pages over and over hoping that they've updated or doing searches for assignments. I used to chat a lot but I never come online just to talk to people anymore. 3|000001|olivia|03-03-99|felicity|You know that guy, Noel, on the show Felicity? He looked so familiar when I first saw the show, and now I finally figured it out. He looks like that lead singer guy from the old, old, old Fox show The Heights. Do any of you remember it? It came out (and flopped) when I was in 5th grade, I think. The theme song was that throaty "How Do You Talk to an Angel" song.. But is that him? 4|000001|Seraph|03-03-99|parental issues|I bet that was not help..sorry! 3|000001|Seraph|03-03-99|felicity|I remember that show. Wasn't Drew Barrymore in it? I'm pretty sure that she was...and wasnt that guy from beverly hills 90210 [hush, i was young once] who used to beat up donna in it?. \ 2|000001|olivia|03-03-99|curioso|I think I spend so much time using the computer because I'm the kind of person who likes to do several things at the same time. So I'm usually snacking, playing the guitar, maybe even watching t.v, and doing something on the computer simultaneously. I like to look things up on the web. News, magazine articles, guitar tabs, and stuff. 3|000002|Seraph|03-03-99|Pages that hate women|For an assignment I have to argue that the net is basically a plot against women and if anyone has come across the kind of pages which promote sexist attitudes I'd really like to see them. 2|000001|Seraph|03-03-99|curioso|I like doing lots of things at once too, sometimes I feel much better if I'm doing that. I like eating while I'm online and having the tv on and sometimes I try to read as well.My mum is always getting me to look up inxs tabs *lol* 1|000004|Seraph|03-03-99|domain owners 2|What I would really like to know is that do you think having a domain is really worth it? 4|000001|ari|03-03-99|parental issues|this may not really help, but just try to be there and do other things for him - comfort comes in many forms... 1|000001|cecile|03-03-99|LAH|lah.. isn't that a chinese term or something? great job on the board. it's very very pretty. 2|000001|Stuart|03-03-99|curioso|These days I mostly use the computer for email and checking people's pages for updates (often three or more times a day :P). Once the assignments start rolling in for the new year, probably need to use the 'net quite a bit for that. Hmm.. What else.. I tried to set up my 'puter as an answering machine the other day, but the software didn't work for my modem. :P lol.Sometimes the computer can be a 'good' escape from things, like if I'm/you're trying not to think about something (or someone) or whatever. Anyone else have anything to add to that? Just curious.That's about all I can think of - might add more later though, if I think of something...~Stuart.-- stl@merlin.net.au ICQ: 886816-- 1|000001|beastie girl|03-03-99|LAH|I love the purples. Oh yeah, since we're all at a pubb could i order a large shake witha chesseburger? <<say what?>> <<my name is what>> <<my name is who>><<my name is slim shady>> 4|000002|olivia|03-03-99|block-scheduling|Do any of you have to live with it?My school has block on Wednesdays and Thursdays, so it's kinda nice to have homework for only half my classes on those days. But they're thinking about having double block-days, which would really suck because most of the teachers don't know what to do with 90 minute classes. 1|000001|olivia|03-03-99|LAH|Oh! Compliments! *bask bask*Hehe.. Yeah, this is an online pub where you don't have to be of age to get in. Girls get free entry and umm...Cecile, ah! Wah, long time no see! 1|000001|olivia|03-03-99|LAH|Does anyone have any constructive criticism to offer, since... I don't really know what to do with a domain? 4|000002|meredith|03-03-99|block-scheduling|My school uses a block schedule every single day, with the classes changing times, ect. It can be spiffy because I don't like going to the same class at the same time, it gets so routine. Plus, if I didn't have block scheduling, I'd have Geometry as my last class ever single day. But, it gets annoying, I only have 80 minute classes instead of 90, thank goodness. Most of the teachers have no idea what they're doing during the 80 minute blocks, but they're slowly but surely improving. -- Meredith 1|000004|Maddy|03-03-99|domain owners 2|I think it is, cuz it's really fun... I mean, I personally met a lot more interesting people than I would have in a million years without it. Also, I'm the type that has a million ideas and absolutely needs to be heard otherwise she'll go insane That's the best way to get your point across most of the time, to either be on a domain, hosted at one, or majorly linked on one. 4|000002|geoanna|03-03-99|block-scheduling|i'm a junior and i've been on block scheduling all the way through high school. like everything, it has its ups and downs. i like it when second semester begins and you have completely new classes... but then again, one semester can be really hard or horrible. you can get all core classes, etc. you have to learn to adapt i guess. our classes are 90 minutes... some days time FLIES by...but others you stare at the clock waiting..and waiting..and waiting. it's best for my school, i suppose. we have about 1600 kids and get a 20 minute lunch... the halls are PACKED, and it sucks so bad... okay, now this is insignificant and i'm babbling. blah. 2|000001|geoanna|03-03-99|curioso|like most of you guys, i do about a gazillion things at once. i always have a cd in and the tv on... i usually have a drink or snack. i go to people's homepages that i love, update my own, i write letters, do my homework, check email, do the sat test question of the day, check my horoscope, and search for tons and tons of things... there are so many things i'm interested in, and the net helps feed the knowledge. woohoo to the net. 4|000003|geoanna|03-03-99|working|i'm a high school junior. i'm in about a million clubs, in all honors classes, AND i have a job... i used to work about 30 hours a week. now i work about twenty. does anyone else out there work? how do you manage your time? do you ever just NOT do your homework and give up so many things? i really would like to keep a job... actually, i have no choice. i have too many expenses, but i'm finding it sooo stressful. arg. 3|000002|geoanna|03-03-99|Pages that hate women|oh my! did you choose this topic? i swear that i have never, ever...come across a site like that. but maybe i've lived my net life in a bubble. *laughs* anyways, good luck to you! if you find any sites, i'd like to see them. 1|000003|cyn|03-03-99|domain owners|Yes.No.Yes. 1|000004|cyn|03-03-99|domain owners 2|Sometimes it is... I mean, the attention is nice, and it's great to have a place that's actually your own, you know? But once you have a domain, there's a lot more pressure on you to have a good site, and you get a lot more criticism [not always constructive, either]. And it's starting to get to me... http://terabithia.net 1|000002|cyn|03-03-99|restless.org|How come everyone found these boards before me? 2|000001|cyn|03-03-99|curioso|Hey - Geoanna's here!! *waves*I visit my 5-10 favorite pages every day [never used to do that... hmm...], feed my ubb addiction, check my mail every 10 minutes, read tutorials on stuff that I never end up learning anyway... basically waste time. I should be ashamed of myself. 1|000005|jeffyen|03-03-99|How much to you pay for web hosting?|Hi folks. I was wondering how much you pay for your domain hosting (if you have a domain), and which ISP do you use? Glimpses ~ daily journal www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/8345 1|000003|del|03-03-99|domain owners|yes, no, yes.or were these essay questions?shoujo kakumei 1|000004|del|03-03-99|domain owners 2|if you know what you're doing, and you really want to *do* something with your domain, and you don't let senseless bashing bother you, then it is definitely worth it. otherwise, probably not.shoujo kakumei 1|000004|Jocelyn|03-03-99|domain owners 2|I think it all depends on whether or not you personally are considering obtaining a domain. If you really want it, then it's worth it, even if you do get criticized for it. It really doesn't matter what other people say, since it's for you, and only for you (also it's pretty darn neat in a way, too).I've thought about getting a domain before, but I wouldn't want to pay the money just so I could have www.rive.org (or .com). It just seemed so silly, since I liked where I was and I didn't have to pay any money.I like domains, but only some of them (if we're talking about DOMAIN domains and not just server-domains, if you know what I mean). 1|000001|Jocelyn|03-03-99|LAH|Put MORE interactive stuff on it! I love doint interactive things, play games, see jokes, your favorite things, I guess. Just whatever. You don't have to do ANYTHING with your domain if you don't want to - it's entirely up to you. You could just have a page saying, "MY DOMAIN, isn't it COOL?!"Oh, and you are a perfectionist you silly - the boards are perfect! I love the ambience (ance?).________________________________http://www.ultranet.com/~jocelyn 2|000001|Jocelyn|03-03-99|curioso|Besides my homepage? Hmmm, well, I do this kind of stuff - lurking around message boards, surfing my "daily" sites, looking for new and intriguing sites, listening to mp3s (or downloading them), attempting to reply to my mountain of e-mail, all INSTEAD of doing the schoolwork on the computer that I was supposed to do. (ha!)I waste too much time on this thing. It's a good Procrastination Machine. 3|000002|Jocelyn|03-03-99|Pages that hate women|I've never come across pages with sexist attitudes before... though I have come across pages that have really bad attitudes about sex.________________________________http://www.ultranet.com/~jocelyn 4|000003|Jocelyn|03-03-99|working|I have a BIG rant about this subject. I'm a high school junior, but I'm NOT in a zillion clubs. I am, however, greatly involved in my church, youth group and friends. I have a part time job (only 8 hours a week), too. I have great difficulty keeping up in my schoolwork (which is what I should be trying to do instead of this).I think it's SO stupid how we feel like we have to fill our lives up with clubs, organized activities, sports and work. We have our whole lives to work, so why work now? I got a job to save money for college (but sometimes it ends up going out the window any way). Our society is so much more fast-paced than the rest of the world - it makes us feel guilty if we AREN'T involved in a zillion things at once. It does that to me quite a lot, actually...I think it's vitally important to make time for yourself, whether it be just to relax, to do some sort of religious activity or just have "down time", time to think and reflect and time where you can slow down. Even if you feel like you don't have time to do that, it's important to, otherwise you end up burning yourself out. It's not fun to get burned out and have a nervous breakdown.I don't manage my time very well (or at least I don't think so). I just try hard to keep up and give myself guilt trips so I get offline and start doing homework (like now - this is my LAST response, I'm promising myself...________________________________http://www.ultranet.com/~jocelyn 3|000002|Chasing Wonder|03-03-99|Pages that hate women|Seraph is right or else she wouldn't have wasted time posting. There are a lt of pages that "hate" women, but there are more pages the demean them. Which is sorta the same as hating, because if you respect something, you treat it well. There are tons of wannabe rap "women are hos" pages, along with anti-feminism pages, and pages that promote male dominency. See for yourself. Got to Webcrawler or Excite and type in something that sounds demening to women. Type in the word "ho" or just type "I hate women." It's not that hard to find, but alls free in love, war, and the Internet.Al wonder will never cease to exist!Chasing Wonder 1|000003|purple|03-03-99|domain owners|I bought mine cause I thought I would have time for it. Now I don't. It sucks. 1|000005|olivia|03-03-99|How much to you pay for web hosting?|pair.com offers some really reliable and speedy service. It costs a little over $100/year (Internic and setup fees included) if you're a student and you pay annually. But they only give you 20 megs, one ftp and one pop3 account, so you can't do much sharing.If you want to have a REAL domain with all the good stuff, the cost is at least $200-300, kind of like buying a new CD every month. Look through some web presence provider search engines to pick one. 4|000003|Jolene|03-03-99|working|I agree with you here Jocelyn... One of my good freinds tells me how she "can't STAND to be alone" - she always needs people around her, talking to her, doing things with her. Me, I get "overstimulated" very quickly. Ever since I can remember, I have always NEEDED quiet time, down time, time for me to just recoup, re-focus and process the day's events. If I don't have time alone, and a lot of it, I loose my footing and feel like I am floating aimlessly around, not accomplishing anything. I am also not involved in a lot of activities, because I find that while rushing from one to the next, I lost track of who is who and what is what. I would rather be involved in one or two clubs that I truly believe in, and feel I can put quality time into. And, I am one who would much rather stay in on a Friday night, hanging with my family or a few close friends, than go to a party or club. I'm all for moving to Spain, where they still practice the siesta! *wink* 1|000003|Andrew Taumoefolau|03-03-99|domain owners|Come on, do you really think anyone is going to answer "yes" to the second question? 4|000001|Clarity|03-03-99|parental issues|Thanks for the advice, guys. Seraph, your advice may be more help than you think. *shrugs* I guess everything needs time... 4|000001|olivia|03-03-99|parental issues|Clarity, well, you know how they say you don't REALLY learn to appreciate/admire your parents until you grow up and become one? I think it's great that you already do. It's been years since I looked at my parents as role models. 2|000001|Andrew Taumoefolau|03-04-99|curioso|Games, baby, games! I'm surprised no-one here has owned up yet . Or could it be that none of you actually play games? Sin!While on the 'net, I spend most of my time arguing with people on message boards or in guestbooks. I don't chat at all - there's something about the spontaeity of chatting that puts me off, for some reason. IRC conversations usually degenerate into mindless small-talk. I'm usually doing something while I'm on the computer - watching a video, listening to music, trying to play Pocket Fighers on the PSX while maintaining conversation with people on ICQ no mean feat, believe me .I do a lot of writing and drawing while I'm on the PC, as well - I've got a nifty slide-out drawer, theoretically for the keyboard, that I use to draw on. Writing on the PC is easier than in my sketchpads because it's easy to change.Blah. 1|000003|jeffyen|03-04-99|domain owners|Andrew, I'll say yes to the second question. First; yes, third; yes.But right now, not everyone is doing it. Nevertheless, if you're someone who could use a medium to express yourself, the net and your own domain name will come in quite useful...Glimpses ~ daily journal www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/8345 1|000001|cecile|03-04-99|LAH|hehe. yeah, long time no see. since you miss me so much, i promise to frequent this board. i'm pretty lost around all these new domains and all anyway. so i guess i'll just stick around here. 1|000001|cecile|03-04-99|LAH|olivia>> hehe. yeah, long time no see. since you miss me so much, i promise to frequent this board. i'm pretty lost around all these new domains and all anyway. so i guess i'll just stick around here. 2|000001|cecile|03-04-99|curioso|When i'm online i'm doing lots of things at the same time. I chat on irc. I don't go into channels like #friendly or other generic channels like that. I go into the channel which my friends and I made. I usually chat with my friends and people from school and other people i know in real life. Most of the time when people I don't know message me and they just have small talk, I ignore them. Aside from chatting on irc i'm usually surfing at the same time. I usually visit boards or people's websites and click and click on links... makes me end up in strange places sometimes. And then sometimes i'm on the phone too... and just messaging on icq too. 1|000004|san|03-04-99|domain owners 2|Well, at the moment I don't think its worth it! After using about 3 different hosts I've settled on Soft Com to find out I can only use asp and .exe scripts! Ack! And my moms going to kill me if I transfer again, on account of I use her credit card for the domain. So some people can access Stormz, some can't and I'm getting really pissed off.I think being able to remember your old and new ICQ number, off by heart, means your addicted to the Internet right? 1|000004|aerith|03-04-99|domain owners 2|I think it's worth it, but that's just because it's easier to remember domain names than it is some obscure address that includes a ~ or a lot of numbers. Plus, I have an obsession with names, so... 1|000001|Caitlyn|03-04-99|LAH|Wonderful boards! I just love UBB's 4|000003|Jennifer|03-04-99|working|I'm not going to comment on working, because I don't have a job, but I do want to say something about extracurricular stuff.I'm not involved in that many school activities. And the ones I am involved in, I'm not really that active. My mother thinks that I'm not going to get into a good college because of that. I don't believe it. I have to agree with Jocelyn that you need time for yourself. I have friends that debate, are on several sports teams, head clubs, and take AP classes...I don't see how they continue to function. I guess it depends on the person. But if you can't handle everything, though, I give the obvious advice: try cutting back on something a little, at least. (Okay, I'm not too great at giving advice.) 1|000004|Twi|03-04-99|domain owners 2|It's such a love/hate thing... sharing a place with my friends, yes, yes, it is worth it. Seeing - well, reading about - Syl's happy shock when I asked her to join us at swansongs made my week.But.Cyn is so very right. Suddenly my site, which has always attracted a motley crew of goths, slashfen, and a few unusually-mature teens, is being constantly scrutinized by the usual domain crowds, and they aren't liking what they see. Now the tone seems to be, "It doesn't matter that you've been making pages for years; it doesn't matter that writing is the most important thing in the world to you. Your graphics aren't perfect, so it sucks." Or "The graphics are okay, but I don't like the colour scheme. It sucks." "I don't have the attention span to actually read anything on your site, but you've got stories, poems, and a journal, just like every other teenager, so you're 'unorigional.' It sucks.""I don't understand. It sucks."I hate to think I'm not reaching people, that they're hearing but not listening. And I think that more and more since swansongs went up.Sometimes I don't know why I bother. But I think the community spirit at swansongs balances it out for me, most of the time. I don't think I could give it up.(Sorry for whining. This sounds like one of my recent journal entries. Eep. You did ask.) 4|000003|olivia|03-04-99|working|Jennifer, I don't think it's worth it to kill yourself over school activities. I rarely do homework at home, except for big projects, which is why study hall is a blessing.There are many things that go into college applications, so don't worry too much about the extracurriculars thing. Community service will help you A LOT in getting scholarships though. 1|000003|Twi|03-04-99|domain owners|1. Host my and my friends' sites, obviously. After that, who knew? A lot of the other things at swansongs we came up with in group chats. (Aevilness, for instance.)2. Okay, so I'm answering the same as everyone else. Seriously, I didn't visit teen pages at all before I got the domain. I didn't even know it was trendy for teens to have sites - I've always been extremely edgy about revealing my age on my site (probably because of the groups I'm involved with), and here are these kids flaunting it. This is all very new to me. It's CZ's fault that I now spend all my time reading lame teenybopper sites instead of lame Vampire Chronicles fanfics and lame "I am the Vampire Pretentious" sites. (I visit teensites more than I read smutty X-Files fanfic now! My God!)3. Unless the teenyboppers drive me insane...I'm too longwinded today, aren't I? 1|000004|andrea|03-05-99|domain owners 2|well.. You know my domain has been up and running for awhile now (five months? neat) and I don't regret it for a minute. I regret hosting with gwis, but that's a different story. Anyway.Is the fee worth it? To me, certainally. Is the bashing worth it? I don't know, you know I've never really gotten bashed. Sure that one insane person insulted my realaudios but no one bashes my lame design, my non-existant graphics, no one says I'm a waste of a domain and that I could be on angelfire or geocities (although I obviously could)You know what I think the difference is? I focus on what I want. I focus on what I want to see on my page, not what is expected. Alot of the newer domains focus on design, and they're brilliant at it, but if people go to your page expecting brilliant design and you've thrown up something that is awful, they're going to flame you. Even if you don't think it's awful, if it's not up to the standards that they want from you, they're going to be let down. ermm what was I talking about. Oh yeah.I focus on my stuff. My journal mostly I guess, I've redesigned.. like 5 times in 5 months (twice this week because I hated the images). I've NEVER gotten flamed for a design. But cyn, who I think we will all agree is a talented webmistresses, gets criticism out the ass. Why? Why is that?uhm lets find the topic. Yes. Yes it's worth it but you have to make it worth it to you. It's not worth it if it causes you stress. Your web page should be one of the minor focuses in your life.uhhthe end. really. I suck.-a 1|000004|olivia|03-05-99|domain owners 2|Twi - I know what you mean. People seem to forget that a domain is just another webpage. The domain gets the criticism that the webpage doesn't. I'm afraid to link to the people I'm hosting because I don't want to pass any bashing I might receive onto them. 1|000004|del|03-05-99|domain owners 2|well.i suddenly see the advantage of being invisible - people can't bash your domain if they can't see it.small consolation, believe me...shoujo kakumei 2|000001|Amy|03-05-99|curioso|If I'm not working on my page, I'm usually checking my favorite pages for updates or looking for other kool pages...plus I talk to people on aol im a lot and send email. I don't do anything that out of the ordinary! Every once in awhile I'll have to type a paper for English or something.... 3|000001|Amy|03-05-99|felicity|Yeah, that was the guy on The Heights was the same guy who beat up Donna on 90210... I don't think it's Noel, though. Actually, I'm just about positive it's not. The guy who plays Noel has the same birthday as me, though, in case anyone cares. 1|000001|Chasing Wonder|03-05-99|LAH|I on't think Olivia is a perfectionist. I just think she wants to put quility effort into something that will look nice for all of us. She's not a perfectionist. She is respectful to put so many hours of her life into something that we just might not appreciate.Al wonder will never cease to exist!Chasing Wonder 1|000004|jade|03-05-99|domain owners 2|having a domain is worth it if you have an actual purpose for your domain. you ask half the owners out here why they got their domain and they'll say "to host/cgi/extra space".. typical responses. In my opinion, if you really want people to recognize your domain for what it is- be a leader. Try something new, and give your domain an ORIGINAL reason to exist. Otherwise, you'll soon realize you're just doing what everyone else is- and then it won't be worth it.. 4|000002|Shawn David Struck|03-05-99|block-scheduling|The big dirty secret behind block scheduling (it was implemented the year after I graduated high school, before, we had an 8 period day, with 4th and 5th periods each split into 2 lunch halves) is this:The advantages touted about having time to teach more things, to use less "traditional"structures for teaching, to have more subject intensive work, and student-intesive help...it all can be done without the need to switch to block scheduling.It just requires teachers to work a lot harder.Hey, I'm not knocking teachers. I still plan on going to college to become a teacher. And most teachers ARE hard-working.But teachers that have been in the system longer are much more resistance to change. PLus, some are just stubborn. And for the to undertake such a radical shift of thier routines.. in many cases, block scheduling is what it takes.So, while I view block scheduling as largely uneccessary, if it will help more tenured teachers to change thier set ways and deal with students more effectively, then I'll go along with it.--Shawn David StruckPS: Um, hi. I'm on of livvie's friends. ANd I like to post alot. My page is at www.saucybard.com/shawn, and I'll soon have a chunk of web over here, soon. "Looooong ago, the Chu-chu tribe had a great big guardian god, who could step over huge mountains in one step. The Wondrous Mambo god, yes he was. The Chu-chu Tribe and the Wondrous Mambo god lived happily together in perfect harmony, yes we did. A dreamy sweet existence. But one day, a huuuge red fireball rained down from the sky, and blew away our guardian god as he was asleep. Blam, kablam, bloom! But don't worry! The great big guardian god became a star in the sky! He protects the Chu-chu Tribe, yes he does! Yes, yes, it's a great story... No matter how many times I listen to it, I'm so moved... yes, I am..."-- the legend of the Chu-chu Tribe, as told by a Chu-chu in Shevat 2|000001|Shawn David Struck|03-05-99|curioso|When On-line:e-mail, ICQ msging, web surfing, mp3 dowloading, newsgroup and WWW MB posting.On ICQ, I regulary go into chat with one of my on-line freinds and hash out dialogue for a fanfic thingy we're working on.My on-line routine is usually: log on, check email, look at the Eblana Messagebase, go onto ICQ, RP chat. I make sure to visit rpgamer.com and gaming- intelligence.com and all the journal based sites listed on my site everyday, too.If I'm really bored, I'll go through Dejanewsand sift through USenet, or just pick a subject and start reading about it on the web.Usually, the web is a relaxing way for me to topp off the night after a hard day at work.I'm a real night owl, and since there's nothing really to do around here in my neighborhood late, I'm usually on the web until I get tired.Off-line: I use the PC for MP3 listening, gif/jpg making, and word processing.--Shawn David Struck "Looooong ago, the Chu-chu tribe had a great big guardian god, who could step over huge mountains in one step. The Wondrous Mambo god, yes he was. The Chu-chu Tribe and the Wondrous Mambo god lived happily together in perfect harmony, yes we did. A dreamy sweet existence. But one day, a huuuge red fireball rained down from the sky, and blew away our guardian god as he was asleep. Blam, kablam, bloom! But don't worry! The great big guardian god became a star in the sky! He protects the Chu-chu Tribe, yes he does! Yes, yes, it's a great story... No matter how many times I listen to it, I'm so moved... yes, I am..."-- the legend of the Chu-chu Tribe, as told by a Chu-chu in Shevat 1|000001|Shawn David Struck|03-05-99|LAH|Hmmm... what to add?You should have a setup where when you find Dottie, a dispnser magically gives you candy.Except for liccorice. Ewww.--Shawn David Struck "Looooong ago, the Chu-chu tribe had a great big guardian god, who could step over huge mountains in one step. The Wondrous Mambo god, yes he was. The Chu-chu Tribe and the Wondrous Mambo god lived happily together in perfect harmony, yes we did. A dreamy sweet existence. But one day, a huuuge red fireball rained down from the sky, and blew away our guardian god as he was asleep. Blam, kablam, bloom! But don't worry! The great big guardian god became a star in the sky! He protects the Chu-chu Tribe, yes he does! Yes, yes, it's a great story... No matter how many times I listen to it, I'm so moved... yes, I am..."-- the legend of the Chu-chu Tribe, as told by a Chu-chu in Shevat 1|000004|Twi|03-05-99|domain owners 2|But why should we be expected to be original at all costs? If what we're doing is what we want to do, what is important to us, why should it matter if others are doing it too? There is a very big difference between originality and creativity. 2|000001|tiana|03-05-99|curioso|usually, i surf the net. chat with a few people on icq or aol. go on ubbs. reply to email. just be the generic net user i guess.if i'm feeling particularly ambitious i'll attempt to play myst or legacy of time or riven for awhile.Ti'ana"I laugh because it takes away some of my internal pain" 2|000002|cecile|03-05-99|MP3s|where do you guys get your mp3s? i get mine from mirc, on channels like #mp3jukebox and stuff. i usually find it difficult to download them straight from the internet because i don't know the urls or the ftp sites. where do you get yours? 1|000006|PurpleCrayon|03-06-99|ubb|Firstly, You should cut down the form to register. i got tired and was like ah well. it's a nice baord though. Your page is okay. Could use some more content. People are talking really bad about you on a few boards I don't know why but i came here to post my ubb so every one check it out? It's new but has alot already=)http://206.14.125.206/BBSMessageBoard.showBoard?boardName=bluemonday 1|000007|Maddy|03-06-99|starryskies.net|Tell me what you think.... http://starryskies.net 1|000007|beastie girl|03-06-99|starryskies.net|oh my god. do you want me to throw up all over my computer screen? 1|000007|Maddy|03-06-99|starryskies.net|Ok you do that then, if you can't critisize constructively. 1|000007|Dejavu|03-06-99|starryskies.net|I happened to like starryskies.net, I think maybe it's just not some people's style of webpage. I liked it though, and I just want to say that I thought that "throw up" comment was kind of rude.Ashley 1|000004|Dejavu|03-06-99|domain owners 2|It's not worth it if all it does is have a couple of cute graphics and host a bunch of people. It's just a short web address where you feel that you have the power. Personally I want one, but when I get mine it will be my personal website, not a hosty-cutsie domain. 1|000004|liberty|03-06-99|domain owners 2|I got a lot of attention I didn't want when I had my domain (eyestar.org), so I moved back to Geocities, but the attention carried over. So I closed the page for renovations, promising a new page in 4 days. A month later...---------Elisehttp://www.geocities.com/~opyl 1|000007|lore|03-06-99|starryskies.net|I like starryskies, I have a lot of respect for it, I love the colors, and the page has some reat designers working on it. I also have a feeling that it will only imporve as it gains content. Though I must say that the content is a bit lacking now.I also love the name ~lore"emptiness is loneliness and lonelines is cleanliness and cleanliness is godliness and god is empty just like me"-the smashing pumpkins http://lull.net/lore 2|000002|lore|03-06-99|MP3s|I use Cute FTP to download mp3's(same ftp client I use for my page) and I get them from http://mp3.box.sk you really do need to know how to use FTP, and have a client to get good MP3, as well as the awesome selection. mp3.box.sk is down at the moment, but I'm sure it will be back up soon.~lore"emptiness is loneliness and lonelines is cleanliness and cleanliness is godliness and god is empty just like me"-the smashing pumpkins http://lull.net/lore 1|000004|Seraph|03-06-99|domain owners 2|Thanks for responding I'm not really intrested in having a domain since I found freespeech.org, I did think about it when stuck in geocities pop up hell though. I'm just curious.I know some people like the attention that having a domain brings and some people hate all the attention but love some of the which having a domain allows you to do - hosting, cgi access..all that kind of stuff. I think the appealing thing to me about hosting domains is the potential for it to actually be a community. Maddy - I think that you can be just as well heard on a hosted for free page as you can on a domain.Cyn, you do such beautiful things on the web, don't let ugly criticism get you down - there are probably a lot of people around who are just jealous of your talent.Del, I think that you're right. I can do everything that I need to do on freespeech - actually as far as I can see most domains could do everything they wanted on a free space provider except host and have boards...!Joycelyn - I don't want a domain. I think that if I had one it would just be a personal one and that kind of seems like a waste of money since I've got everything that I need at freespeech.San - eeek..another good reason not to get one!aerith - if you can afford to do it then good luck to you Twi - that must be the really nice side, hosting people who really want to be hosted. In a way though that would be strange - it'd be like a tiny power trip considering some people consider being hosted a life or death issue.Its strange people who once wouldnt really bother with your page if they didn't like it now feel that if you don't make it to their liking then you deserve endless complaints about layout and other crap.Andrea - It probably is strange that you havent gotten much bashing [except for that weirdo]the only reason that I can think of is because your page is EXACTLY like a homepage, its not a crappy design but as you said your design isnt a focus on your page. Olivia - have you actually recieved bashing???! because I don't see anything for anyone to bash. Also, I wish that you had put up their links because with one of the pages I thought it was gone for good for awhile del - Is this jade of sodacan jade? m.s requests to be authorized but NEVER EVER authorizes me?? hmmm? if you're not that jade..whoops hehe.I get tired of seeing the same thing over and over at domains but mostly I only use ubbs at domains, even if they had some really ORIGINAL little gimick thing I wouldn't bother with it most likely so... hmm.. 2|000002|Andrew Taumoefolau|03-06-99|MP3s|Friends, mainly - most of the stuff I'm into isn't on the web, or at least if it is, it's not making its presence very well known . 1|000006|Andrew Taumoefolau|03-06-99|ubb|Care to relate the addresses of these boards? I wouldn't mind paying them a visit . 1|000007|beastie girl|03-06-99|starryskies.net|Oh my god. I am like soo sorry for speaking my mind. lmao. <<say what?>> <<my name is what>> <<my name is who>><<my name is slim shady>> 2|000002|cyn|03-06-99|MP3s|If you want well-known stuff, try mp3wow.com . 1|000007|olivia|03-06-99|starryskies.net|Your mind's not worth speaking if you can't justify what you say. 1|000006|olivia|03-06-99|ubb|PurpleC - You mean that thing going on at the trashed boards? *L* 1|000003|cornflake[girl]|03-06-99|domain owners|woohoo, smutty X-Files fanfic![sorry, totally off-topic, but who doesn't love smutty X-Files fanfic? I just wanted to voice my approval on the topic.] 2|000001|cornflake[girl]|03-06-99|curioso|Besides the usual frantic checking of updates at my favorite pages [all, what, 75 of them?], I waste mucho time on ICQ [talking to myself, basically], save millions of pictures of my obsessions to my hard drive [and therefore possibly break the computer and waste more memory], and try to teach myself classy html, although I'm beginning to think I'm a lost cause. . . 2|000001|Claire|03-06-99|curioso|Pretty much the same as everyone else... check my fave pages (I only have a couple, though), check my e-mail, wait for my friends to get online to chat, etc. I don't chat with anyone that I don't know personally, though. I did that when I first got on the net... but it got old. I mostly just get online when I'm bored & then just goof off until I'm even more bored & then I go do something else even more boring. 1|000001|Claire|03-07-99|LAH|I think it's perty. It's so annoying to go to a UBB and the board color is navy & the text is black or something & you can barely read anything. These colors aren't blaring... they're soft and comfortable. I was surprised that you had a UBB... I don't usually go to the main page, I just skip to your personal site. It's really great, though. (c: 4|000003|Shawn David Struck|03-07-99|working|I have a full time job. I work 40 hours a week. I don't attend college right now.I was considering going and applying for the upcoming fall semester, but I've gotten so wrapped up in my new job (Grphic Design for a media company-- our main product is newspapers), that now I'm not so sure.My boss has told me that it looks like I have a real future at the company.If only I could beat my own self defeating tendencies. I'm extremely disorganized. And I don't manage me sleep time too well. My not showing up on time has become a running joke at work.But the job is rewarding and satisfying, unlike my one year stint at Blockbuster video. PLus, I make a good two bucks more, and when I budget carefully, I have the room to splurge (example: My very own Pikachu stuffy).The only real drawback to my job is that it's a morning job-- 10am to 6pm for me. Then, with the train ride home, I don't get home until quarter or ten to 7pm, so it's definately important to make timetime for myself when I get home... read any mail, cook dinner and watch the news hour on PBS.Weekends, I like to either hang with friends, or just stay home and sleep in and maybe write a bit... I'm pretty hedonistic on the weekends.Too bad it's more "drink milk straight from the carton" hedonistic than "throw wild party" hedonistic.---Shawn David Struck 2|000002|Shawn David Struck|03-07-99|MP3s|Depends. Since my tastes are kinda outre (leaning more towards old singles, themes and video game/arranged music), mostly from friends and thier ftp sites.Not to seem like I'm shameless self-promoting, but I have a section of my site where I put up wav and mp3 files, usually connected with some sort of theme every week, and it's at:www.saucybard.com/shawn/downloads.htmI usually change the downloads every sunday night.As far as searching for mp3's, mp3.lycos.comand scour.net are both invaluable resources.Y'know what's funny... the format itself is a legitiamte encoding format... it's just using it for say, pirated singles that's illegal (not that I care). But this paranoia over mp3 makes it im[possible for me to,say, u/l an mp3 of my recital at a concert... that's on any free server, and domains and such.. i had to set up a private FTP thru a friend for it.. sigh.--Shawn David Struck "Looooong ago, the Chu-chu tribe had a great big guardian god, who could step over huge mountains in one step. The Wondrous Mambo god, yes he was. The Chu-chu Tribe and the Wondrous Mambo god lived happily together in perfect harmony, yes we did. A dreamy sweet existence. But one day, a huuuge red fireball rained down from the sky, and blew away our guardian god as he was asleep. Blam, kablam, bloom! But don't worry! The great big guardian god became a star in the sky! He protects the Chu-chu Tribe, yes he does! Yes, yes, it's a great story... No matter how many times I listen to it, I'm so moved... yes, I am..."-- the legend of the Chu-chu Tribe, as told by a Chu-chu in Shevat 1|000001|Dejavu|03-07-99|LAH|About your question about what to add.. If I had my own domain I would just put my personal page on the domain, because I wouldn't know what to do with the domain, and the personal site. It's entirely up to you, what you do with the domain, though. I know I couldn't keep up with a domain and personal site at the same time.Ashley 1|000006|bitch|03-07-99|ubb|or the one at fadeddreams.net.. 1|000007|bitch|03-07-99|starryskies.net|It's not my bag of chips, but it's not bad either. The only thing that I suggest you improve is the star image to the left and at the top.. it looks a bit as if the ends of the star are chopped off (on my monitor, at least). 4|000004|Riley|03-07-99|Guys are shitty|"riley, i love you more than i've ever loved anyone in my whole life, there's nothing i woouldn't do, everyone else in the world could just die and it wouldn't matter as long as i had you"Question: Then why is he such an asshole to me about little things? 4|000004|geoanna|03-07-99|Guys are shitty|i once had a guy i liked to tell me that i was perfect... that what he imagined his future wife as being was just like me, that i deserved the world... BUT he didn't like me in "that way." you tell me why guys are that way. 1|000007|Caitlyn|03-07-99|starryskies.net|I like it. *shrugs* The layout is really cute.~CaitlynYou've got to dance likenobody's watching, andlove like it's nevergoing to hurt. 1|000007|Maddy|03-07-99|starryskies.net|Yeah, I know about the stars thing, I'm doing a new layout so that doesnt happen again. As for the content, a lot more is going up with the layout. 4|000004|olivia|03-07-99|Guys are shitty|I've never had a boyfriend, but I think guys make cool friends. If I get a stain on my clothes during lunch at school, no guy is going to care, but the girls are the ones to giggle. 1|000007|olivia|03-07-99|starryskies.net|Maddy, first I want to say that you are one killer designer. I mean, you know how to use colors, use HTML, and make cool graphics. But the way you do your layout could be a little more effective. Don't put up so much (small) text to jump out when the visitor first loads into your page. The average visitor probably wouldn't read all of the text, and if she did, she'd think that was enough and then leave without digging into the real content. 4|000004|Clarity|03-07-99|Guys are shitty|Guys irk me. My best friend is a guy (Jim) and we've been close since 3rd grade. He's told me the same types of things, "You're perfect." "You're beautiful." but he has yet to realize that I belong to the female race. Not that I want to date him, that would make things awkward, but he doesn't know I exist when it comes to women. I become invisible, and fade... 4|000004|Chasing Wonder|03-07-99|Guys are shitty|Sometimes guys are hard to understand, but sometimes we as women are hard to understand in ways to them. I think that men are not superior to women and women are not superior to me. People are superior in MIND only to other people. Cultural and family values play a role in the man's aspects, but just as all women will, men will have to answer to God one day, and He is the ultimatejudge of what is right and wrong. I also don't have any friends who are girls (in real life) because girls are generally too critial and materialistic. If you walk with dogs, you will become a dog. Why don't we stop worring about whether "guys" or "girls" suck? PEOPLE suck. There are jerk in every culture, race and sex. Why don't we worry about fixing ourselves rather than other people all the time? I think this topic is immature.Al wonder will never cease to exist!Chasing Wonder 1|000006|Gena Marie|03-07-99|ubb|ok there is no bashing fest going on at fadeddreams....ok? yes what I did say I should have said here I'm sorry about that...though everything else that was going on there was just a case of mistaken identity or whatever I'm tired I'm not making any sence and I apologize for not coming right out and saying what I thought....and you have my total permission to tear fadedreams.net to sreads...because well I know it's not all that great and well I like it that wayGena Marie fadeddreams.net 1|000006|olivia|03-07-99|ubb|Gena - You think that just because I have a discrepancy with someone, I'll bash her domain? No, no, no. I'm not like that. You can rest assured; no bashing is going to happen to fadeddreams.net on my part.Your apology is gladly accepted. 4|000004|Riley|03-08-99|Guys are shitty|The person who said that is my boyfriend. We've been fightning alot lately. Over "doing stuff." I'm always afraid to talk about it with people because the obvious response is "it's your body he should respect you" or "he's just using you". I know he isn't using me, I know he isn't cheating on me, I know he really loves me.. so why does he act this way? I just don't understand it. He feels offended if I just don't feel like doing that kind of thing with him at that very moment. Then later after he calms down he gets really upste he acted that way and swears he'll never do it again. What's going on? 1|000007|cecile|03-08-99|starryskies.net|The site design is very well-made. I love stars, so i do like the name too. Good luck with the rest of the stuff you plan to put up. I do wish the email forwards were still up though. 1|000004|Jen|03-08-99|domain owners 2|dammit! i just typed a detailed response to all this, hit submit and it tells me i havent registered yet doh!, hit back and all gone! grrrrrrranyhow... i am another one who didnt mix in these circles at all before getting my domain... i am 28 not a teen... i am doing this for me on my terms but also i want hits and approval and all of that...i got a domain to get off the freespace merry-go-round, to put all my sites in one place, to get into cgi, host others, achieve further web fame, get more professionalism by having a domain to represent me (i am a programmer / designer) etc etcafter a little *ahem* incident recently at my ubb i am starting to think about things a lot and in different ways... instead of just going to other ubbs (mainly) to post ads for my site, i having started reading more and even posting at other ppls boards... i *have* found the bitchy change-yer-layout obsessiveness, the your-board-is so-boring-oh well you suck no you do-crapola... the ubb at trashed actually doesnt have any of this at all and maybe i was shielded from the reality of how low the "teen domain" can be but i also know how good it can be... i have a domain that will host - i am 28 - i wont be teenie but my site may be seen that way... others doing it (much more) differently like saucybard and swansnogs (sic) will get shit heaped on them... this isnt right... just becos a person gets a domain doesnt mean ppl have a right to bashbut then here we are all at a board (not at our own ubbs even) talking about the scene that we are / arent in... i think we put ourselves in "the scene" by posting at teen domains... it doesnt make us one thoi know CZ and twi have been totally turned off / disheartened / floored by spending toooo much time confirming their views of "bad" teen sites / domains - but there are other places to surf than this "scene"anyhow i have gone on long enough...Jenxoxo http://trashed.org get trashed! 1|000006|Jen|03-08-99|ubb|gotta say it... the bashing that went on at trashed.org (mine) had nothing to do with me but ppl who post at my boards...all i am saying is it sounded like it was a trashed bashing when it wasnt (just clearing that up)Jenxoxops i see your note at the index page... wow what is happening with that? forget all the bashing and crap anyhow and do what you want to do (which you obviously are) http://trashed.org get trashed! 1|000006|Jen|03-08-99|ubb|ok so everyone probably knew that... *g* 1|000006|Jen|03-08-99|ubb|ok so everyone probably knew that... *g* 4|000002|Dejavu|03-08-99|block-scheduling|I don't have it yet, but if I end up going to Ursuline Academy for highschool (I'm in the 8th grade, I feel so young), I will have it. It seems nice to me, but I'm so restless that I'll probably throw up with such long class periods. 1|000007|Maddy|03-08-99|starryskies.net|Yeah, I deleted the lots of text when you first surf on. I think the layout looks really awesome as of now... I'd show you a screen shot, but there's no images allowed. As for the uhm email forwards, it started out ok but ended up getting really messed up with my host and all... it would only happen to me. 4|000004|Andrew Taumoefolau|03-08-99|Guys are shitty|To quote Eddie Campbell: "I never realised women hated me so much." We're not all horrible creatures, you know. Well, most of the time we're not . 1|000003|emma|03-08-99|domain owners|noyesyesI'm bad at lying anyway..."So many rednecks...so little time." 1|000003|karmatic|03-08-99|domain owners|1. yes. i was going to fill it up with mindless writing, and impress everyone with my short address and the fact that i could (barely) afford a domain.2. no. i did it because it made me feel special and tingly after it got registered.3. yes. i'm determined to annoy everyone.- diana http://karmic.net "absolute damnation." 1|000007|emma|03-08-99|starryskies.net|the colors on my computer don't seem to blend well, the design how ever is a change from all the other star domains, and well the content doesn't interest me, I'm more into art and writing, rather than faq and downloads and reviews etc....however it was far from making me gag, it kind of made my feet tickle actually (in a good way "It just can't be illegal to kill someone that incompetent!""I'm not part of the problem. I am a republican."-Dan Quayle"I'd like to change your mind by hitting it with a rock." - They Might Be Giants 4|000004|Shawn David Struck|03-09-99|Guys are shitty|Okay, here's how it was for me, no guarantees that it's how you r guy feels that way.Believe it or not, guys are pretty vulnerable when asking for affection. And sometimes instead of seeing it as "I don't feel like that right now", it's seen as "Your feelings for me are not being returned. HOw wrong of you to think of me in that way."Most guys, unless they are assholes, don't want to force thier signifigant other to return affection. Some have trouble asking. Some feel that if it really is genuine, they shouldn't need to ask, while others don't want to make thier s.o. feel put upon.Yet, mixed in with all that, is this yearning or desire for closness. Plus there are times when a guys' hormones will resembles a bottle of soda after it's been shook up a whole lot. Plus the need to feel valitdated and accepted.So, when a girl says "no, noit right now" or whatever, some guys will just be stupid and think "I'm being rejected. What's wrong with me." Or feel frustrated. Or hurt. Or confused. Or just not get it-- it's different for each giy and each couple and each set of circumstances.Hell, I've been guilty of that, too. And thenm afterwards, Iwould feel like such a jerk. Like, how could I have said something like that? But I had to make a desire known...and on...I'm sorry if I'm being vague, but since I'm too polit to pry, my answers have to be pretty general.Plus, it's late and I'm tired.--Shawn David Struck "Looooong ago, the Chu-chu tribe had a great big guardian god, who could step over huge mountains in one step. The Wondrous Mambo god, yes he was. The Chu-chu Tribe and the Wondrous Mambo god lived happily together in perfect harmony, yes we did. A dreamy sweet existence. But one day, a huuuge red fireball rained down from the sky, and blew away our guardian god as he was asleep. Blam, kablam, bloom! But don't worry! The great big guardian god became a star in the sky! He protects the Chu-chu Tribe, yes he does! Yes, yes, it's a great story... No matter how many times I listen to it, I'm so moved... yes, I am..."-- the legend of the Chu-chu Tribe, as told by a Chu-chu in Shevat 1|000001|mands|03-09-99|LAH|the ubb's look so, perfect! 2|000002|mands|03-09-99|MP3s|i get mine from http://www.audiogalaxy.com/ 4|000004|mands|03-09-99|Guys are shitty|one of my best friends is a guy and he's really nice but then again he can be a real jerk.. but also, most people have 2 different sides* Mandshttp://jaylea.com/mands 4|000002|mands|03-09-99|block-scheduling|i dont know what the hell block-scheduling is.. here we have 6 periods a day from 8:45 - 2:45 and on Wednesday we get out at 2:15 .. hmm 4|000003|mands|03-09-99|working|i wish i could work, but you have to be at least 14 and 9 months and I'm not even 13 yet!* Mandshttp://jaylea.com/mands 1|000003|sarah|03-09-99|domain owners|1. yes2. sort of....I guess I'll be honest. If no other teen had a domain, I doubt I would have bought one. 3. yes 1|000008|sarah|03-09-99|bluemorning.nu|What do you think of my ugly piece of crap?-Sarahbluemorning.nu 2|000002|Sami|03-09-99|MP3s|You can more or less find what you want at these two sites: http://www.scour.net/ http://www.audiogalaxy.com/ If you have AOL, go to private chat rooms mp3, mp32 - they have these list servers... it's hard to explain, but when you go there it will be easy to catch on what to do. =) They're hard to get into tho. =P 1|000008|mands|03-09-99|bluemorning.nu|it's not an ugly piece of crap! the green layout is soo cool.. very true about how rare it is to use green on a site.* Mandshttp://jaylea.com/mands 4|000005|geoanna|03-10-99|friends|yeah...i know these are going to be vague questions, but i'm really interested in your opinions. how many REAL, TRUE friends do you have? what makes them that way? how many of your now-friends do you think you'll still be close with ten years from now? 4|000005|Jennifer|03-10-99|friends|Keeping in touch with friends is a funny thing. I had four good friends in the eighth grade, and when we split up to go to different high schools in ninth, we promised that we would keep in touch. I thought that if we really were "good friends," that wouldn't be that much trouble.To make a long story short, I haven't seen any of them for over a year. Maybe that's not a long time, but I doubt we'll ever be as close as we used to.Honestly, looking back, maybe they weren't real, true friends. But I thought they were at the time, and maybe that's what counts. 3|000003|Angie-la|03-11-99|This is cool!|Hi! This is the first time I've posted something, so I hope I won't somehow exhibit my amazing talent to screw things up and make this look like monkey poo. I like this board...kind of small, but that's good. I am quite bored...Okie, since I have nothing else to say, here's my word of the day:cephalagia: pain located in the general region of the head. 3|000002|Vince|03-12-99|Pages that hate women|Hmmmmmm... I think I wanna do that. I am gonna type in "ho" in a search engine and see what comes (cums) up! LOL!I wanna see some pictures of some hos! Hahahahahahahahahahaha! 4|000006|cecile|03-13-99|something we should ALL read... please. |I GOT THIS THROUGH E-MAIL. PLEASE COPY THIS AND SEND IT TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE..THIS PETITION IS REALLY IMPORTANT...PLEASE DO READ IT. ---The government of Afghanistan is waging a war upon women. The situation isgetting so bad that one person in an editorial of the Times compared thetreatment of women there to the treatment of Jews in pre-Holocaust Poland.Since the Taliban took power in 1996, women have had to wear burqua andhave been beaten and stoned in public for not having the proper attire,even if this means simply not having the mesh covering in front of theireyes. One woman was beaten to DEATH by an angry mob of fundamentalists foraccidentally exposing her arm while she was driving. Another was stoned todeath for trying to leave the country with a man that was not a relative. Women are not allowed to work or even go out in public without a malerelative; professional women such as professors, translators, doctors,lawyers, artists and writers have been forced from their jobs and stuffedinto their homes, so that depression is becoming so widespread that it hasreached emergency levels.There is no way in such an extreme Islamic society to know the suicide ratewith certainty, but relief workers are estimating that the suicide rateamong women, who cannot find proper medication and treatment for severedepression and would rather take their lives than live in such conditions,has increased significantly. Homes where a woman is present must have their windows painted so that shecan never be seen by outsiders. They must wear silent shoes so that theyare never heard. Women live in fear of their lives for the slightestmisbehavior. Because they cannot work, those without male relatives orhusbands are either starving to death or begging on the street, even ifthey hold Ph.D.'s. There are almost no medical facilities available forwomen, and relief workers, in protest, have mostly left the country, takingmedicine and psychologists and other things necessary to treat thesky-rocketing level of depression among women. At one of the rare hospitals for women, a reporter found still, nearlylifeless bodies lying motionless on top of beds, wrapped in their burqua,unwilling to speak, eat, or do anything, but slowly wasting away. Othershave gone mad and were seen crouched in corners, perpetually rocking orcrying, most of them in fear. One doctor is considering, when what little medication that is left finallyruns out, leaving these, women in front of the president's residence as aform of peaceful protest. It is at the point where the term 'human rightsviolations' has become an understatement.Husbands have the power of life and death over their women relatives,especially their wives, but an angry mob has just as much right to stone orbeat a woman, often to death, for exposing an inch of flesh or offendingthem in the slightest way. David Cornwell has said that those in the West should not judge the Afghanpeople for such treatment because it is a 'cultural thing', but this is noteven true. Women enjoyed relative freedom, to work, dress generally as theywanted, and drive and appear in public alone until only 1996 -- therapidity of this transition is the main reason for the depression andsuicide; women who were once educators or doctors or simply used to basichuman freedoms are now severely restricted and treated as sub-human in thename of right-wing fundamentalist Islam. It is not their tradition or'culture', but is alien to them, and it is extreme even for those cultureswhere fundamentalism is the rule.Besides, if we could excuse everything on cultural grounds, then we shouldnot be appalled that the Carthaginians sacrificed their infant children,that little girls are circumcised in parts of Africa, that blacks in the USdeep south in the 1930's were lynched, prohibited from voting, and forcedto submit to unjust Jim Crow laws.Everyone has a right to a tolerable human existence, even if they are womenin a Muslim country in a part of the world that Westerners may notunderstand. If we can threaten military force in Kosovo in the name ofhuman rights for the sake of ethnic Albanians, then NATO and the West cancertainly express peaceful outrage at the oppression, murder and injusticecommitted against women by the Taliban.*************STATEMENT:In signing this, we agree that the current treatment of women inAfghanistan is completely UNACCEPTABLE and deserves support and action bythe people of the United Nations and that the current situation inAfghanistan will not be tolerated.Women's Rights is not a small issue anywhere and it is UNACCEPTABLE forwomen in 1998 to be treated as sub-human and so much as property. Equalityand human decency is a RIGHT not a freedom, whether one lives inAfghanistan or anywhere else.***** 1) Bruce J. Malina, Omaha, NE 2) Raymond Hobbs, Hamilton, ON, Canada 3) Elizabeth Demaray, Kanata, ON, Canada 4) Fred Demaray, Kanata, ON, Canada 5) Leslie Penrose, Tulsa, OK 6) Susan Ross, Perkins, OK 7) Jeannie Himes, Tulsa, OK 8) Lois Adams, Tulsa, OK 9) Mona M. Miller, Fort Collins, CO 10) Kara A. Sheldon, Colorado Springs, CO11) Gay Victoria, Colorado Springs, CO12) Catherine Euler, Leeds, UK13) Faith Muimo, Leeds, UK14) Sanna Vehvil?inen, Helsinki, Finland15) Jussi Onnismaa, Helsinki. Finland16) Marjatta Hahkio, Helsinki, Finland17) Jouko Hahkio, Helsinki, Finland18) Colin Sydes, Helsinki, Finland19) Gavin Cowie, Helsinki, Finland20) Andrew Walker, London, UK21) Roberto Battista, London, UK22) Rob Day, Brighton, UK23) Emily Aitken, Brighton, UK24) Amanda Carroll, London,UK25) Bethan Nicholls, London, UK26) Joanna Glyde, London, UK27) Justin Beckett,London,UK28) David Coleman, Market Deeping, UK29) Rainer Michael Arnst, Berlin, Germany30) Sebastian Hans Georg Walter, Berlin, Germany31) Steffen Biersack, Berlin, Germany32) Uwe Boigs, Berlin, Germany33) Pamela Lezaeta, Santiago, Chile34) Arturo Belmonte-Pool, Chile35) Jan Lindsay, Auckland, New Zealand36) April L. Pickard, Perth, Australia37) Karen Robb, London, UK38) Mike Faulkner, London, UK39) Lana Cronin, Perth, Australia40) Neena Buntwal, London, UK41) Richard Phillips, London, UK42) Richard Mauger, Leamington Spa, UK43) Guy Cheswick Benfield, Perth, Australia44) Matthew Morton, Andover, UK45) Simon Craddock, Budapest, Hungary46) Liz Pickering, London, UK47) Helen Quelch, London, UK48) Chipo kuuya ,London,uk49)Vanessa Horca,London,UK50) Dennis Mendoza, Manila, Philippines **** Please sign to support, and include your town and country. Then copy ande-mail to as many people as possible. If you receive this list with morethan 50 names on it, please e-mail a copy of it to:Mary Robinson,High Commissioner,UNHCHR,<mailto:webadmin.hchr@unorg.ch>webadmin.hchr@unorg.chand to:Angela King,Special Advisor on Gender Issues and the Advancement of Women,UN,<mailto:daw@undp.org>daw@undp.orgEven if you decide not to sign, please be considerate and do not kill thepetition. Thank you.It is best to copy rather than forward the petition. 4|000005|mands|03-18-99|friends|i'm not really sure if i can trust any of my friends.. they're great to be with and all but all of them would tell everyone if you told them something.. like today for instanse.. now i'm in deep crap..* Mandshttp://jaylea.com/mands 1|000003|sammy|03-18-99|domain owners|Well, I don't have a domain yet. I figure that I might as well take advantage of free hosting to bare my soul to the world before having to shell out for one - and I don't really want to appear as though I'm jumping onto some domain-owning-bandwagon. So, for me at least, xoom (and I have other bitches about that yet, namely the "xoombar", grrr) or other free hosting will do just fine until I get a domain, and have definite plans for one. =]~sammy+ + + members.xoom.com/vampkitty black, blue, pretentious 4|000005|Clarity|03-19-99|friends|I know a true friend when they put me before themselves. That may sound selfish, but it's true. A real friend never speaks poorly about you to other people, stand ups for you, and if they stab you, it's in the front, not in the back. A true friend walks in when the rest of the world walks out, and will love you unconditionally, regardless of what brand clothes you wear, what music you like, where you live or what you believe in. A real friend is lovely inside. 4|000005|renita|03-21-99|friends|I have one true friend, and a few close friends. What makes her that way? Well she listens to me when I need her to, she has never betrayed me in any way, and she puts me ahead of her, as well as her other friends. <P>I agree with clarity. I think a true friend will put you ahead of themselves because they want you to feel comfortable. I don't mean to sound selfish either, but that's just my opinion. They don't like you for what you look like on the outside, but they love you for who you are inside. They're aware of your flaws, but can over look them anyways. True friends let go of all expectations and and give full acceptance. 4|000005|Shawn David Struck|03-23-99|friends|Here's my definition of the difference between a friens and a REAL friend:A friend will help you move.A REAL friend will help you move... a body.--Shawn David Struck[My .sig would go here, but I don't fell it would be right to have the whole Chu-Chu legend follow a 7 line post.] 1|000008|Clarity|03-27-99|bluemorning.nu|Ooh, I like the cherry pie graphic and the white and red frames. Red is my favorite color, though, so naturally it appeals to me.I like the color-changing javascript boxes in the lower left frame, they're easy to surf through and well-designed.Overall, a charming new domain, <i>alot</i> better than most new ones, especially since you actually know alot of HTML. Great job. *claps* 4|000007|Clarity|03-28-99|Spring Break|Is it just me, or does everyone else feel the need to change their attitude/appearance/life on this wonderful break from school. I know Olivia underwent a change on her break. What else is everyone up to with their freedom? I'm designing webpages for money and working at The Grill alot. And pointlessly cruising main street with my friends. 4|000007|olivia|03-29-99|Spring Break|Designing webpages for money? Woo! Awesome. 4|000007|jeffyen|03-29-99|Spring Break|Hey Clarity, I've been thinking of designing for money myself, as a hobby. How much do you charge people? :-) I'm starting out by charging nothing at first, hehe to get some experience and portfolio...Glimpses ~ daily journal www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/8345 4|000007|Shawn David Struck|03-30-99|Spring Break|I'm going to do the same thing I do every night, Pinky: TRY TO TAKE OVER THE WO—Oh, wait, wrong message board. ^^;Actually, I work full time, so I don't get a spring or Easter Break. And I'm an atheist, so Easter doesn't mean that much to me. I can't even use it as an excuse to gorge on choclate; I don't get baskets anymore, and if I want to get lots and lots of cansy I can truck my buttocks on down to the candy store and get me some.However, since it IS Spring, I will be oputside more often.. especially at my Quiet Place... a little weeping willow that's out by the ond that's behind this house. Also, I'll be making a few trips to NY.. one to see a friend and RENT (my first B'way musical), and the second to meet a 'net friend who goes to college in upstate NY.Let's hear it fopr Marshmallow Peeps! ^_^--Shawn David Struck "Looooong ago, the Chu-chu tribe had a great big guardian god, who could step over huge mountains in one step. The Wondrous Mambo god, yes he was. The Chu-chu Tribe and the Wondrous Mambo god lived happily together in perfect harmony, yes we did. A dreamy sweet existence. But one day, a huuuge red fireball rained down from the sky, and blew away our guardian god as he was asleep. Blam, kablam, bloom! But don't worry! The great big guardian god became a star in the sky! He protects the Chu-chu Tribe, yes he does! Yes, yes, it's a great story... No matter how many times I listen to it, I'm so moved... yes, I am..."-- the legend of the Chu-chu Tribe, as told by a Chu-chu in Shevat 4|000007|Clarity|03-30-99|Spring Break|Jeff - I charge people $150.00 for a site complete with graphics, content, javascript, and updating when they need it changed. Not too much, not too less. Making a few of them for free was what I did back when I first started my tiny little own company, Cloud 9 Web Design. I did two I think. Shawn - I LOVELOVELOVE Peeps! They are by far the best candy out there...mmm...thanks alot, now I have this uncontainable urge to take a quick drive down to Safeway to pick up a pack of them. Mmmmm..I just might have to do that.A question for everyone, on my page ( midspark.net/~clarity ) is the background color a deep dark blue on the March entries? My friend Lorraine visited my journal using a Macintosh and the background showed up as white and she had to highlight all the text to read it. Let me know, OK?clarity@midspark.net 4|000007|jeffyen|04-05-99|Spring Break|Clarity, the background for the March entries is purple (I'm using IE5 and Opera3.6, 32bit color)For the main page and the April entries, it's a very dark brown. Am I seeing the correcting thing? ;-)Glimpses ~ daily journal www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/8345 4|000007|emma|04-10-99|Spring Break|jeffyen-glimpses, that's such a wonderful name for a page :O) 4|000008|Shawn David Struck|04-11-99|::sigh::|I feel old. I mean, really, really old. Like someone who's weathered on after a lot of life has gone by.I have to worry about balancing budgets, rent, job performance, food shopping, and bills.And I'm only 19 years old.It's funny; I see some teenagers that have sites talk about how they can't wait to be out on thier own doing their own thing and yadda yadda yadda.Well, before one can have all that freedom, one needs a full time job,. Or delay the real world by going to college for 4 years.Sure, there's freedom. I can have fudgesicles for breakfast or sleep in late during the weekend and not have to worry about school or parents or stuff like that.I'm responsible for everything that happens to me. I landed myself my current job. I struggled and scraped to have and hold onto my own place. Just like I always wanted.And I'm very very proud of myself, finally have a rewarding job.And yet.. I hate it, too. I don't want to have toworry about budgets or paychecks or how to balance food shopping wiht being able to pay rent. I should be worrying about finals and cramming for tests and whther that cute girl in English 106 really likes me or what.Sure, not every could have done what I've done.But if I go to the grocer's and say "Hey, manager! I have immense pride in myself for overcoming many obstacles and not only that, I've been self-sufficient and not succumbed to drugs or crime and I pay my own way through life, something that not many teenagers my age do. Tell me, how much food can I get with that?"Gah.Okay, I'm done ranting. I feel much better now.--Shawn "Looooong ago, the Chu-chu tribe had a great big guardian god, who could step over huge mountains in one step. The Wondrous Mambo god, yes he was. The Chu-chu Tribe and the Wondrous Mambo god lived happily together in perfect harmony, yes we did. A dreamy sweet existence. But one day, a huuuge red fireball rained down from the sky, and blew away our guardian god as he was asleep. Blam, kablam, bloom! But don't worry! The great big guardian god became a star in the sky! He protects the Chu-chu Tribe, yes he does! Yes, yes, it's a great story... No matter how many times I listen to it, I'm so moved... yes, I am..."-- the legend of the Chu-chu Tribe, as told by a Chu-chu in Shevat 4|000007|jeffyen|04-13-99|Spring Break|emma, ambrosia ain't a bad name too! L:0-)Glimpses ~ daily journal www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/8345 1|000009|olivia|05-01-99|Whoah|Sorry, I've been one negligent board administrator the past month. I'm going to try to bring things back to life, so just humor me a little and post something. 2|000003|olivia|05-01-99|Where are they now?|Remember the old webpage goddesses from a couple years ago--like Sophie, and Calli, and Allison, and Kim? Someone should make a page describing where they are now, kind of like VH1's Where Are They Now? show. Except, I guess it'd be harder to do with the Internet, since it's too easy to disappear when you want to. 3|000004|olivia|05-01-99|Favorite and least favorite commercial?|My all-time favorite commercial has to be that really old Tootsie Roll one with the train that's made out of a Tootsie Roll. It's like a little cartoon that you can sing along with, and they still show it once in a blue moon.My least favorite are those local car dealer commercials, where you can tell they barely scraped enough money for the air-time. 4|000008|olivia|05-01-99|::sigh::|Shawn, you probably had to grow up too fast. Where I live, most people your age wouldn't be able to handle your kind of life.I want to be self-supporting. It's like I have to sneak behind my parents' backs to pay for something myself. That may not sound like such a bad thing, but it is when every goal I set to save up money for is taken away without my consent.My brother's older than you, and he still needs to rely on my parents financially. And where does the money my parents send go? Towards buying CDs. No one's ever made him have to grow up, and it looks like no one ever will. (Though I'm willing to take up the job. - Olivia 1|000010|purple|05-01-99|It's not a domin, but...|Since my "domain" is sitting dorment and useless, I shall simply shamelessly plug my personal site: anyhost.simplenet.com/kirsti OH PUHLEEEEEEZE HOST MEEEEEEEEEE!Blessed be,KirstiBlah, boredom. :] 4|000006|cecile|05-02-99|something we should ALL read... please. |. 2|000003|++sa rah|05-02-99|Where are they now?|Olivia, I agree with you. But I don't think we could seriously find any of them, unless anyone still has contact with them? I remember Sophie's World was the first teen site I ever started visiting. Wow, that seems like forever ago, memories 2|000003|biff|05-02-99|Where are they now?|yeah. what ever happened to them? If you mean allison (as in Allison's Adobe) she's at http://www.geocities.com/~lydialovely/ 4|000009|Clarity|05-02-99|As the school year winds d o w n|The school year as a whole seemed to flash right by, yet each individual day was long and tedious. Does anyone else know what I'm talking about? Our last day is the...23rd I think and I'm looking forward to my freedom. 10th grade was probably a good place to be, but I made it a crappy year with my non-existent effort and newly developed anti-socialness. I just want summer to be here. It's MAY and we have SNOW on the ground outside. Whatever happened to "May flowers"? Stupid, stupid Colorado. I got up this morning and made my bed and got dressed ( which I hardly ever do on Sundays ) and ate my bowl of cereal out on the deck. I thought it would be pleasant but I just ended up freezing my fingers off.Enough of my dumb Sunday morning babble. What I wanted to ask everyone was how their school year went and what they're doing this summer. 1|000010|Clarity|05-02-99|It's not a domin, but...|Ah, Kirsti, I already love Once Upon a Lifetime, no lovely plugs required. *smooch*+ Clarity 1|000009|Clarity|05-02-99|Whoah|OK, Olivia. So, this is the domain part of the UBB...I'll list some of my favorite domains.midspark.net (*cheerleader kick for the home team*)restless.org - Like what I've seen so far9thmind.com - amazing designs from all hosteespine-scented.com - gotta love Rachaelsassy.org - sweet and tastygemz.net - hosts Sienna, whom I adoretori.com - no explanation needed for my Tori Amos fettishThat's all for now. 4|000009|Gena Marie|05-02-99|As the school year winds d o w n|hey your from Colorado too? so am I ...and I know what you me gosh darn it be sunny already....nah but if it stayed any type of weather for more than three days I wouldn't know how to react...but I don't go to school anymore...I graduated like ummmm oh my three years ago! I'm old! but this summer I'm going to work and go swimming in my apartment building's swimming pool the wholw reason I moved here my apt building has a pool I'm going to take full advantage of it hehe 4|000008|Gena Marie|05-02-99|::sigh::|oh I know what you mean even though when I was 19 I was still partying a bit but mostly living in hell and failing college is what I was doing but I know what you mean now....I hate my job more than anything else in the world but if I gave it up I'd be out of my house and I have personal motivators to keep this place too and like not be late on bills so I don't get behind and lose everything like my worthless mother but anyways I feel really old too I mean I just turned 21 and I can't go to any bars because I'm broke and I don't want dirty old men buying my drinks for me and besides all my friends have little families now and would have to find a babysitter just to be able to go to the bar with me and that sucks...that's the main thing that makes me feel old I spend my days locked in my apartment on my damn computer and just sitting home watching TV unless I want to go play with my friend's kids and people wonder why I'm always saying I need a boyfriend I want someone to go out and have fun with! I don't like being 21 and feeling like I'm 51 lifes too short to waste like thatok that's my little rant about that I didn't really mean to get into it but I did but anyways I know how you feel though 3|000004|sdfly|05-02-99|Favorite and least favorite commercial?|Well, my favortie commercial changes all the time, so don't wieght this opinion very heavily. My current favorite commercail is for the Volkswagon Golf! The dudes's all actin' funny in the car, and you dont know what's goin' on, until his friend opens the door and this cheesy-yet-kickass robotic dance music comes pouring out. Yeah! And my least favorite would be any commercial with a stereotyped youngster that is portrayed in a way towards my parents to make them think that whatever the person in the commercial says, I agree with. Yes. This is the yes. 4|000004|sdfly|05-02-99|Guys are shitty|I don't think this is a 'guy' problem, because I have the same one with my girlfriend. If I'm feeling sleepy or something, and she wants to do something, she gets really pissed off, but not overtly. She more like kinda pouts, and is always talking to me, tryign to figure out why I can't or won't do everything on call 24/7. And then the next time that I want to do something, even though I KNOW she wants to too, she'll pretend she doesn't out of spite. So, I think this thing goes both ways. 3|000004|olivia|05-02-99|Favorite and least favorite commercial?|Yeah, I like that Volkswagen one too. "Thank you very much Mister Robot-o..."I also like that Snickers commercial with that bald guy standing in front of the mirror looking like he's constipated. And then the little hair pops out of his head, and you hear the announcer say, "Not going anywhere for awhile?" 3|000005|olivia|05-02-99|What song line portrays a philosophy you uphold?|This one's a thinker 'cause I can think of a million different lines from songs that just ooze with wisdom. I guess I'd have to say from Jon Bon Jovi's Destination Anywhere album.. forgot the name of the song, but there's a part where he says, "You think you know me just because you know my name." 1|000009|olivia|05-02-99|Whoah|I also like uninvited.net. What ever happened to pseud.com? 1|000009|olivia|05-02-99|Whoah|I wish I could say I like smashingpumpkins.com, since it's The Official Smashing Pumpkins Homepage, but it has nothing on it.smashing-pumpkins.net is more like it. Hehe. 1|000010|jeffyen|05-04-99|It's not a domin, but...|purple, what do you mean that your domain is dormant? Is it like you've reserved a domain name, but don't have a server to point it to? 1|000010|olivia|05-04-99|It's not a domin, but...|No, Jeff. She's way ahead of you in the game. 3|000004|Shawn David Struck|05-04-99|Favorite and least favorite commercial?|HEY! Cheezy? Styx is [u]not[/u] cheezy. (They wrote "Domo Arigato, Mr. Roboto")Anyhoo, my favorite commercial from the past was one that was shown in Australia a lot. Tight shot of a couple kissing passionately on a beach with the sun shining down and waves rolling over them. Then the girl stops and asks, the guy "Wait! Do you have protection?" and the guy puts on a pair of Ray-Bans. ^_^As for current, I would say that my fave right now is for that one commercial where you see b&W shots of guys saying stuff like "I have my mother's thighs... I'm just going to have to accept that." And Sprite has pretty funny commercials that make fun of conventionnal commercials.Least favorite. Any friggin' Calvin Klien perfume/clogone commercial. "Looooong ago, the Chu-chu tribe had a great big guardian god, who could step over huge mountains in one step. The Wondrous Mambo god, yes he was. The Chu-chu Tribe and the Wondrous Mambo god lived happily together in perfect harmony, yes we did. A dreamy sweet existence. But one day, a huuuge red fireball rained down from the sky, and blew away our guardian god as he was asleep. Blam, kablam, bloom! But don't worry! The great big guardian god became a star in the sky! He protects the Chu-chu Tribe, yes he does! Yes, yes, it's a great story... No matter how many times I listen to it, I'm so moved... yes, I am..."-- the legend of the Chu-chu Tribe, as told by a Chu-chu in Shevat 4|000008|Shawn David Struck|05-04-99|::sigh::|Thank you, nboth of ya. ^_^Yeah, I guess I did. But I try not to dwell on it. And I still have a lot to learn about fiscal responsibility. (Heh. Damn Pokémon and junk food weakness.)But I do love my job. I just don't like working all the time. Just having the weekends to do stuff can be a pain. BUt also, there are people that have it worse.And y'know, I was like your brother, Livvie. Really. I made and saved a good 300 bucks from working, only because I was ordered to. And I blew it during an entire summer with my (now) ex-fianceé.It just that there are times when I feel frustrated.. I mean Graphic Design is great... but it's a constant deadline thing with a newspaper. We put out five a week. And I'm still battling my own spendthrift tendencies. Gerry's benn really really leinient and now that I'm actually making enough money to TRULY meet rent, I should. And as long as I stay in budget, I should be able to splurge.I know have personal motivation. I want to save up for night classes. And have more routine and fiscal responsibilty. And to be able to save up to see my <strike>girlfr</strike> soulmate more often.It's just I thought I mi\ght as well vent here rather than flipping out-- and maybe also give some of the 'teens out there a glimpse of how living on one's own REALY can be. ^_^"Domo arigatou, Mr. Roboto..."--Shawn "Looooong ago, the Chu-chu tribe had a great big guardian god, who could step over huge mountains in one step. The Wondrous Mambo god, yes he was. The Chu-chu Tribe and the Wondrous Mambo god lived happily together in perfect harmony, yes we did. A dreamy sweet existence. But one day, a huuuge red fireball rained down from the sky, and blew away our guardian god as he was asleep. Blam, kablam, bloom! But don't worry! The great big guardian god became a star in the sky! He protects the Chu-chu Tribe, yes he does! Yes, yes, it's a great story... No matter how many times I listen to it, I'm so moved... yes, I am..."-- the legend of the Chu-chu Tribe, as told by a Chu-chu in Shevat 4|000004|Shawn David Struck|05-04-99|Guys are shitty|I'd hafta agree with sdfly.And saying that all guys are shitty if ione guy or gal has been to your (or even a handful"... weak logic. People are and can be shitty.[This is a short message, so I'm not attaching my sig. If you want, close your eyes and pretend I talked about Chu-Chus] 3|000005|Shawn David Struck|05-04-99|What song line portrays a philosophy you uphold?|hmmmmmm...."I like big butts, and I cannot lie."--"Baby Got Back", Sir-Mixx-A-Lot"Like Kirasowa, I make mad films/'Kay I don't make films./But if I did, they'd have a Samurai."--"One Week", Barenaked Ladies[My .sig is on vacation, living it up the Bahamas drinking pina coladas while I slave away at a desk. The lazy bastard.] 1|000010|jeffyen|05-05-99|It's not a domin, but...|Hmm...Olivia, I think I just realised...;-) Ebay is no joke! Man, purple, are you lucky! 1|000011|ari|05-05-99|yes, yes, i know...|...but i would like to ask for people's views on domains - not necessarily on what's already out there, but under what circumstances should one be purchased. if you don't want to start something this inane, i understand & would love it if you'd email me. i have some ideas, but nothing concrete & this is getting long so i'll stop. thank you... 1|000010|ari|05-05-99|It's not a domin, but...|i like it. : ) really. 3|000006|olivia|05-06-99|Matt Wright (cgi script dude)|I have to say that he's pretty cute. 3|000006|Shawn David Struck|05-07-99|Matt Wright (cgi script dude)|I'm much cuter.{This message is so short, my .sig sneers at the mere thought of showing up.] 4|000004|Yo yo yo|05-07-99|Guys are shitty|all men are assholes. there are nice assholes, jerk assholes, and asshole assholes... but men can never erase the name asshole from themselves. 1|000009|Shawn David Struck|05-07-99|Whoah|Woithout a doubt, I would have to say in terms of pure srtistic design, karmic.net is one of the best I've ever seen.I mean the style and layout's beyond good. It doesn't just grab you, it takes a fistful of your shirt, hoists you into the air, shakes you angrily, then gives you the smack-down and sends you dyring home to mommy with your ego between your legs.Well, at least it does to ME.O_O.oO(Note to self: Pick up Prozac refill tomorrow)Too bad that the cutting edge design sometimes requires. like, the latest browser and settings ans such.I used to lurk at plastique.org boards, but all the angst annoyed me. And them it went down.YOu know what would be a cool name for a domain?spoonybard.comormustsee.tvorpika.nuhee hee.--Shawn "Looooong ago, the Chu-chu tribe had a great big guardian god, who could step over huge mountains in one step. The Wondrous Mambo god, yes he was. The Chu-chu Tribe and the Wondrous Mambo god lived happily together in perfect harmony, yes we did. A dreamy sweet existence. But one day, a huuuge red fireball rained down from the sky, and blew away our guardian god as he was asleep. Blam, kablam, bloom! But don't worry! The great big guardian god became a star in the sky! He protects the Chu-chu Tribe, yes he does! Yes, yes, it's a great story... No matter how many times I listen to it, I'm so moved... yes, I am..."-- the legend of the Chu-chu Tribe, as told by a Chu-chu in Shevat 1|000011|jeffyen|05-07-99|yes, yes, i know...|>>if you don't want to start something this inane,no no, it ain't inane at all...under what circumstances...I guess if you have a company, you definitely need a domain name. The cost to buy one is simply too cheap to choose otherwise.If you don't have your own business, and you have $10 a month to spare, and you want other people to find your website easily, then I'd say, go for it! Bill Gates wanted a computer for every home. He forgot to say a domain name for everyone. We'll get there...in 2 years time...Glimpses ~ daily journal www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/8345 3|000006|jeffyen|05-07-99|Matt Wright (cgi script dude)|Where, where? I wanna see his photo!! ;-)Glimpses ~ daily journal www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/8345 4|000010|jeffyen|05-07-99|Gals are shi*y...|Gals are shi*y...but I still love them...shouldn't this be the way it works?We'll never find someone who's perfect...if you do, you're in big trouble...I think, cos' you're not going to be prepared if some 'imperfection' crops up.It's okay that gals are shi*y...Glimpses ~ daily journal www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/8345 3|000006|olivia|05-07-99|Matt Wright (cgi script dude)|I saw it on my domain's control panel. :P 3|000005|Lisa|05-08-99|What song line portrays a philosophy you uphold?|'Looking for a reason, to check out of my mind,finding it hard to get a friend that I can count on,there's nothing left to show.Plant your love and let it grow'- Let it grow, Eric ClaptonI just love this song and I love that passage in particular, because that's how life is (well, mine anyway . Life's a struggle, but if you have the right attitude you'll get through anything. At least that's what the song means to me. 2|000004|StephanE|05-08-99|Troubleshooting|*Sob* Please help me with my computer woes! The sound on my computer won't come until I go off the net! I have to get on the net and get off the net in order for sound to come...but no sound will come when I'm on the net, either. It lets me record things easily (with a sound recorder), but won't let me hear what I recorded unless I get on and off the net.Please help! I'm dying without Imagine Radio!==StephanE==Thank you to anybody who can help! 2|000004|olivia|05-08-99|Troubleshooting|I'm guessing that your soundcard and your modem are on the same interface card. That's why if there's a problem with one, then the other is affected. I had a similar problem last year, and I just replaced them with new (separate) cards.- Olivia 1|000012|Seraph|05-09-99|plastique|Is back. Happy me. It's bizzare how much certain ubb's can mean. Plastique was really the first teen owned domain that I actually enjoyed going to. 2|000004|StephanE|05-09-99|Troubleshooting|Thanks for replying! I tested my computer by playing a midi and then logging onto the net. The midi stopped once the modem started working.I'm don't really understand the computer. I can use it, I just don't understand it. How would I change interface cards? 2|000004|olivia|05-09-99|Troubleshooting|It sounds like a hardware problem, which means you'll have to buy the new cards, then open up your CPU to install them. It's pretty cool. Playing doctor with the innards of your computer and stuff. 2|000005|Allene|05-09-99|cookies|i downloaded internet explorer 5 last night anf then today when i tried to log into my hotmail i got an error message. it was something like i hafta enable cookies on my browser. i have no idea how to do that. HELP!!!! 2|000004|StephanE|05-09-99|Troubleshooting|Sadly, that doesn't appeal to me too much. Sorry I don't go on the net that often now that I can't listen to Imagine Radio anymore, so I think I'll stick with it like this for a little while to see what goes on. Plus, I have to get some projects done on the computer and playing doctor will take me forever (mostly because I won't be the one playing docotor, but my dad will). Oh, well, it's not too bad ) I'll survive! ("I will survive, I will survive"). I still have another question to ask (I'm sorry! I ask too many questions at school, too)...how much do these cards cost? I don't think my dad will be too thrilled, but if they're not too expensive, maybe I'll be able to buy them. 2|000004|olivia|05-09-99|Troubleshooting|I know my soundcard costed somewhere around $15-$20. I didn't think there would be much of a difference between the sound quality of the old and new one, but there was a HUGE difference.I don't know how much the new modem was. Probably a little more expensive, I'd imagine.Installing them isn't too much trouble. You just have to know how to open up your computer, know how to use a screwdriver, and the rest is pretty easy to figure out, since the only position where the cards can go is pretty obvious. 4|000010|Shawn David Struck|05-09-99|Gals are shi*y...|That reminds me...Who the hell decided the toilet seat's proper position was DOWN? I mean, really, it must be a gal conpiriacy...."Yo, girl... ya left the seat down again! Wassup with that?"--Shawn[My .sig file ditched me and went to Vegas. Sigh.] 2|000004|Shawn David Struck|05-09-99|Troubleshooting|Right click on My Computer.Select Porpeties.Select "Hardware Profiles".Select whatever your soundcard is under (sounds, games controllers).Select properties again.Uncheck "use basic configuration" if it's already checked, and click on the area called IRQ. Adjust it until the little box at the bottom says "no conflicts."Violla. 1|000011|spitfire|05-09-99|yes, yes, i know...|Under what circumstances?Well, you should have the financial means to purchase a name and host server. You should determine the best name for your project (personal or business). You should determine if you'll have the time and means to dedicate to your domain. You should make sure you have enough content to warrant a domain. You should be ready to face a fair amount of praise and criticism.Hmm...what else? 3|000004|spitfire|05-09-99|Favorite and least favorite commercial?|Currently I really enjoy the M&M commercials and the GAP swing and country khaki commercials.I'm sure there are several commercials I don't like, but none come to mind right now. 1|000011|ari|05-10-99|yes, yes, i know...|ok - thanks... i do agree, i'm trying to make sure i'm not making a mistake here... 2|000004|StephanE|05-10-99|Troubleshooting|Okay, thank you! I'll probably have to buy that stuff myself, but that's okay. I can live without buying that new Ben Folds Five CD. Sorry, Shawn Struck, I have Windows 98 (which I should've told you!) and it's different. I did try to do something similar, but that didn't work. Thank you, though 4|000011|StephanE|05-11-99|how to do accents|Hmm...I have to do a radio show with a Spanish accent (based on a book located in Mexica) for English. How can I do a Spanish accent. I tried listening to West Side Story, and I can do the accents, but only after I immediately hear the lines on the CD. I can't do a Spanish accent! Tips, please? (I also need to tips to roll my r's. I can't do this so I end up faking it and it sounds somewhat authentic, but not as fast). I wish I could do accents. I can do British and Southern (and a bad German accent, that ends up sounding like a mixture of European accents and sometimes, I can get away with an interesting French accent. My parents are Korean and have accents, and I can't even replicate their accents! It's really quite sad, but that's okay 4|000011|Lyndsey|05-11-99|how to do accents|I've been "trained" in accents, and really, the only way to perfect the accent is to sit in front of mirror with a tape recorder and record yourself speaking in the manner in which you want to speak (repititious much.) Also, most decent theatrical supply stores have "Learn to Speak Like a (Insert Accent Here).." tapes. For a Spanish accent, especially, roll your L's and R's...like a cat purring. That's key one. My spanish accent is pretty cheesy, very "seduction" spanish rather than Mexican spanish. If you have access to Spanish TV Channels that might help also. if i don't come back, remember the code. forgetwhat you've seen. forget what you heard. forgetwhat you know. ...come in mission control ... 2|000004|Andrea Wonder|05-12-99|Troubleshooting|No, it looks like the problem here is a bad MIDI or plug in player. What you need to do is go re-download a MIDI player like Crescendo and reinstall it. Try that and let me know what happens. angel88@hotmail.com 2|000004|Andrew Sione Taumoefolau|05-12-99|Troubleshooting|A bad MIDI player wouldn't prevent her from playing her CDs (or any non-MIDI sounds, for that matter). I'm with Shawn, what's happening here is most likely either a. weird driver problems (download the most recent software drivers from your soundcard and modem manufacturer's webpages before you run off to buy a new soundcard, StephanE) or b. a hardware conflict - check that your modem and soundcard aren't on the same IRQ setting. This is the likely problem... one of my former employers had the display card and the sound card on the same setting, and would get all these weird graphical glitches. In this case, it's just a matter of opening up your PC (it's very fun, as Olivia has already mentioned, and it makes you feel very technical , checking what ports your cards are plugged into, and making sure they're listed as being in the same ports in your hardware manager.<p>Phew! My apologies for being so long-winded . When all else fails, don't be too proud to take it into a computer shop. Messing around with the innards of your computer is fun, but it's also a good way to break things and buy stuff that you don't really need . 2|000004|Andrew Sione Taumoefolau|05-12-99|Troubleshooting|I hate UBB Code ^_^. 2|000005|jeffyen|05-12-99|cookies|Go to Tools->Internet Options.Press the button 'Delete temporary internet files.'Press the button 'Clear History.'Then go to the Security tab. press 'default level' if it can be pressed. Hope this helps. 1|000013|olivia|05-12-99|the impending demise of midspark|Okay, this is the e-mail I sent out to the people I'm hosting:I have some bad news.I am seriously considering giving up midspark.net. I already have another place picked out for moving my page into a non-domain account. I'm still open to changing my mind, but as it stands, I plan to not run a domain anymore. I feel like I'm letting you all down; therefore, I feel it's my duty to help you find a new home for your site. Everything on the domain will still be active for the next three months.That's really it. I'd like to hear what you have to say. If you want to know the reasons for my not-quite-sorta-decision, keep reading.- OliviaPROS FOR KEEPING MIDSPARK- I can keep my Midspark name (being the possessive snot I am)- I won't be letting you all down- the HD backups I uploaded onto my account wouldn't have gone to wasteCONS FOR KEEPING MIDSPARK- despite what I get with Communitech, the service isn't all that great (or professional)- I'm with Communitech because Kirsti was able to offer me a resold account, with the reseller's discount intact so I could save money. However, Communitech recently made the logins and passwords of resold accounts accessible to the resellers, which means Kirsti is able to see my domain's login and password. I trust her enough to not be bothered by that, but I don't want to assume that you all are ready to trust her too.- Telnet is an avenue I'd like to explore, and I'd like to have full Telnet access with wherever my page is hosted (a service currently not offered by Communitech)- My domain is like a dirty little secret I keep in real life. It's kind of stupid since I'm not really using the domain part of my domain- I don't think it's worth it to keep shelling out money for more than what I need in a place to put my page. I was already thinking about this when a cop came to my house to give a ticket to my dad for keeping our station wagon parked next to our driveway. It doesn't pose a threat because we live in a horseshoe caldesac. Apparently, one of the neighbors complained, and I bet it was the nextdoor neighbor woman who cares so much about the appearance of her house and its surroundings. I hate the idea of my parents having to spend money on little things like that (which do add up to be a lot), and I'm here spending hundreds of dollars a year on a domain I'm not using. 3|000005|Adri|05-12-99|What song line portrays a philosophy you uphold?|"Girls, you've got to know when it's time to turn the page." - Tori Amos, [u]Northern Lad[/u]. It's short and rather clichéd, but it rings all too true."Don't worry about the future. Or worry, but know that worrying is as effective as trying to solve an algebra equation by chewing bubble gum. The real troubles in your life are apt to be things that never crossed your worried mind, the kind that blindside you at 4pm on some idle Tuesday. Do one thing every day that scares you. Sing. Don't be reckless with other people's hearts. Don't put up with people who are reckless with yours. Floss. Don't waste your time on jealousy. Sometimes you're ahead, sometimes you're behind. The race is long and, in the end, it's only with yourself. Remember compliments you recieve. Forget the insults. If you succeed in doing this, tell me how. Keep your old love letters. ... Whatever you do, don't congratulate yourself too much, or berate yourself either. Your choices are half chance. So are everybody else's. Enjoy your body. Use it every way you can. Don't be afraid of it or what other people think of it. It's the greatest instrument you'll ever own. Dance, even if you have nowhere to do it but your own living room. Read the directions, even if you don't follow them. Do not read beauty magazines. They will only make you feel ugly. Get to know your parents. You never know when they'll be gone for good. Be nice to your siblings. They're your best link to your past and the people most likely to stick with you in the future. Understand that friends come and go, but with a precious few you should hold on. Work hard to bridge the gaps in geography and lifestyle, because the older you get, the more you need the people you knew when you were young. Live in New York City once, but leave before it makes you hard. Live in Northern California once, but leave before it makes you soft. Travel. Accept certain inalienable truths: Prices will rise. Politicians will philander. You, too, will get old. And when you do, you'll fantasize that when you were young, prices were reasonable, politicians were noble, and chlidren respected their elders. Respect your elders. Don't expect anyone else to support you. Maybe you'll have a trust fund. Maybe you'll have a wealthy spouse. But you never know when either one might run out." - Baz Luhrman (damned if I know how to spell his name), [u]Everybody's Free to Wear Sunscreen[/u]. 1|000012|Adri|05-12-99|plastique|Plastique rocks my world - not only because I finally got hosted there, and not only because I'm addicted to the UBB. I don't know. There's just something about the entire scene and the massive following that's incredibly addicting. 3|000004|southern gurl|05-13-99|Favorite and least favorite commercial?|My favorite commercial right now is definitely the volkswagon one. Or is it Volvo? Anyway, those guys singing are so cute! Oh and I like the computer chip one. Where they talk about all amazing this chip is and how could save it the world, and then they say NO. Stop. We're just gonna use it for video games. It's kinda cruel, but I couldn't help but laugh. My least favorite commerical is definitely the hockey budweiser ones. They are so stupid!Anyhow. That's my opinion =) 1|000013|Seraph|05-14-99|the impending demise of midspark|I can understand why you want to give it up since you feel bad about spending the money and because of your other reasons but you know what? I'll regret your domain going down, if it does go down. I've always really enjoyed your page and I've always loved midspark because to me it's always smacked of potential. I've always had the idea that one day I'll come here and you'll have made the most incrediable domain..I'm strange I guess You will always be a fave of mine. Domain or no domain.The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances. Ifthere is any reaction, both are transformed. www.freespeech.org/cellulite 4|000010|meredith|05-14-99|Gals are shi*y...|okay, my personal belief regarding the great toliot seat up/down debate is that it really depends on if there's more males or females in the residence. But if it's an equal number, then it's kinda like every person for themself.-- Meredith 4|000012|meredith|05-14-99|i can't believe that i did this|alright kids,you aren't going to believe that this just happened. My soccer practice was called off because there were only three people there, including yours truly. So anyways, I was wearing my gym uniform because I forget an extra pair of clothes. And I wanted to change into what I was originally wearing, but this freshie was like, "No, let's hurry up we can get home before five." So I agree, and we're at the bus. Now, she swears that she said "Check out those guys," but if she did I didn't hear her. And so I'm standing at a major intersection, and I'm freezing my butt off. So I do the logical thing, and I reach in my bag and get my long-sleeved shirt. I put on the shirt over the shirt I was wearing, but that didn't feel right. And so I did the infamous shirt trick (any girl who has had to change in a lockeroom knows that I'm talking about, when your in the lockeroom with a bunch of other chicks, and you don't want anyone to see you, so you manage to change without taking off your shirt). Just as my arms are in my shirt, trying to get my undershirt off, I hear a familar male voice saying, "Hi Meredith." And low and behold, it's this senior who happens to be in my youth group, and he's standing there w/his buddy. I was so incrediblt shocked, and embarrassed, and I was like, "Oh my god." I was so freaking embarrassed, and I was just like, "uh... hey there, next time why don't you warn me before I decide to change?"Oh man, I'm going to be so embarassed when I see him on Sunday. Ack, how do I play this off or do I just laugh it off?-- Meredith 2|000006|cecile|05-16-99|i need photoshop help!!!|does anyone know where to get filters for adobe photoshop 4.0? i just installed it and i can't do much with it since i dont have any filters and i've been having difficulty looking for sites... i'd really appreciate it if anyone can give me links..thanks. 4|000012|olivia|05-16-99|i can't believe that i did this|Oops.. I guess I'm too late to give any advice. So umm.. How did things go today, Meredith? 4|000012|meredith|05-16-99|i can't believe that i did this|i just played it off, i was like, "hey dave, whoah fully dressed this time." and he was like, "wow, i'm really proud of you." And then when he was talking about the whole thing that happened, he was like, "I can't believe you did that." he's a funny guy, he really makes me laugh. and i really don't laugh that much anymore.-- Meredith 4|000010|Steve Lender|05-18-99|Gals are shi*y...|The toilet seat. I once was berated for leaving the seat up. Since, I've decided to put it down. In fact. I just leave it down. I leave it down while I urinate with my eyes closed. I mean...that's what a woman must be doing, right? Sitting on the toilet without checking if the seat is there?There you have it. Evil begets evil. Or something. 4|000010|olivia|05-18-99|Gals are shi*y...|If I'm not in my house, I just leave it the way I found it. *shrug* 4|000010|Steve Lender|05-19-99|Gals are shi*y...|In all honesty, at home I close the entire lid. I have a little boy who does not need to play in the water.I guess this is off topic.Women drive me nuts, if only for the whole hormone thing. And it's not just the red tide. They go on birth control, and they change. They go off birth control, and they change. They get pregnant, and they change. They give birth, and they change. They don't eat right, and they change. They sleep too little or too much, they change.But, other than that, I prefer their company. Conflicts with them are not based on oneupmanship, or on glory. They fight to kill. I think I like that. 4|000010|southern gurl|05-20-99|Gals are shi*y...|That's the problem with you men! You NEVER change. We cook, you don't change.We clean, you don't change.We rub your backs, you don't change.We clean up your crap, you don't change.We always let you think your right(despite you being wrong!), you don't change.We let you watch your sports, you don't change.We let you "man" us, and you don't change.We even have sex with you, you still don't change.GRRRRRRRR!Dana, the Southern Gurl<http://mailsync.org/dana> 2|000006|Shawn David Struck|05-20-99|i need photoshop help!!!|Hey, I have Kai's Power Tools and Eye Candy 3.0. Email me if this is what you're looking for. d00d. Sorry, couldn't resist that.--Shawn "Looooong ago, the Chu-chu tribe had a great big guardian god, who could step over huge mountains in one step. The Wondrous Mambo god, yes he was. The Chu-chu Tribe and the Wondrous Mambo god lived happily together in perfect harmony, yes we did. A dreamy sweet existence. But one day, a huuuge red fireball rained down from the sky, and blew away our guardian god as he was asleep. Blam, kablam, bloom! But don't worry! The great big guardian god became a star in the sky! He protects the Chu-chu Tribe, yes he does! Yes, yes, it's a great story... No matter how many times I listen to it, I'm so moved... yes, I am..."-- the legend of the Chu-chu Tribe, as told by a Chu-chu in Shevat 2|000004|rebecca|05-21-99|Troubleshooting|stephanie -- I've had the same problem for the last.. year, or so! It was pretty frustrating at first, but I guess I got kind of used to being deprived of real audio and imagine radio and midis, etc.. and it must have been a problem with the soundcard (for a while, we thought it had to do with the internet doing something, which was a pretty dumb analysis, but ah) -- but we recently got a new computer, and the problem is there no longer.Not to suggest you replacing your computer (just the soundcard would be enough, as olivia has wisely suggested ).. but I found that very strange seeing you had the same glitch as me. 3|000004|rebecca|05-21-99|Favorite and least favorite commercial?|Hehe. That snickers commercial cracks me up. All the old navy commercials are sort of.. strange (board shorts just came graced my tv). I don't really know what my real opinion of them are. But the dog is cute. I always get the jingles stuck in my head. 3|000004|rebecca|05-21-99|Favorite and least favorite commercial?|Hehe. That snickers commercial cracks me up. All the old navy commercials are sort of.. strange (board shorts just graced my tv). I don't really know what my real opinion of them are. But the dog is cute. I always get the jingles stuck in my head. 3|000004|rebecca|05-21-99|Favorite and least favorite commercial?|(sorry about the double post! I know, it's pretty annoying.. but I caught a mistake in my typing write after I pressed "submit reply." oops!) 3|000007|jeff|05-22-99|high school shootings -- hm.|Another shooting in Atlanta. We live in a rather scary world, and what's scarier is that we made this world we live in. Oh and my name is Jeff. Hello there!- velasco@stones.com 3|000008|meredith|05-23-99|building up that cd collection |I just re-discovered my Smashing Pumpkins cd. (Mellon Collie and The Infinite Sadness) I have to say that it has to be one of the better albums around. Thier instrumental (the song before tonight, tonight) is beautiful, and the songs just cover an incredible range. That's an album that I'd want to reccomend to anyone. But although I have the cd collection, there's very few that are... how do I put this? There's very few that I want to listen to on a daily basis, you know? I'm thinking of getting more of thier stuff, but I don't like what I've heard of Adore, it really sounds too techno. Is the whole album like that?Other great cds that I'm proud to have are Tori's Under The Pink, Ben Folds Five Whatever And Ever Amen, and Tori's LE. I have others, but I like them for just a few songs. And, I want to get Ben Folds Five self-titled album because I've heard most of the songs from there, and I like the hard piano playing. Thier new album (the unauthorized biography of reinhold messner) is really soft, it took a lot to adjust to. Anyway, does anyone feel like reccomending some cds where the entire cd is worth listening to? 3|000005|Clarity|05-23-99|What song line portrays a philosophy you uphold?|I hate those people who love to tell you "money is the root of all that kills" they have never been poor, they have never had the joy of a welfare Christmas." - I Will Buy You a New Life, Everclear 3|000004|Clarity|05-23-99|Favorite and least favorite commercial?|Well, when I used to HAVE Tv...I really liked that Sprite commercial with the two kids coming home after school and their mom pours them that sunshine drink and the cartoon character jumps off the can and chases the kids and the mom down the hall going, "I'M FULL OF VITAMIN C!! HEHEHEHE!" and the mom trips on the vaccuum cord and goes, "RUN KIDS!" And then the announcer goes, "Image is nothing, thirst is everything. Obey your thirst. Sprite."I HATE anything Old Navy puts out. I know their corniness is supposed to be what makes it funny, but it just irritates me to no end. 3|000008|Clarity|05-23-99|building up that cd collection |Meredith, the new Jennifer Paige CD is excellent. If you like old, blue-sy stuff and Fiona Apple, you should get the Pleasantville soundtrack. It's great. And I really enjoy Stabbing Westward but no one else seems to. Darkest Days is their best release. 3|000008|meredith|05-23-99|building up that cd collection |i like the beatles original version of "across the universe." Fiona completely killed the song during the movie, I don't know why they just didn't put the original version it the movie, it would of fit a lot better. 3|000004|jeffyen|05-23-99|Favorite and least favorite commercial?|I just love the Pizza Hut ads which have the star wars theme.Father talking to son and grandfather at the opposite end of table.Father : When you borrow something from your friend, you should return it. It's wrong to take other people's toys."(camera pans to 8 year old son with head hung low.)Granddaddy : Ok, ok (and returns the kid's skywalker toy)something like that.Glimpses ~ daily journal www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/8345 3|000008|olivia|05-23-99|building up that cd collection |If you liked Mellon Collie, you'll love The Aeroplane Flies High. (The Aeroplane has some of James Iha's best stuff, I think.) I like Adore. It's the kind of rhythmic music you'd like to listen to while you're driving with the windows rolled down. 4|000010|Steve Lender|05-24-99|Gals are shi*y...|I was always under the impression that you don't shack up with somebody that you hope to change.At least, with a guy, you know where you stand. You, southern gerl, have generalized the basic man. The only truth I see in your statements is that men don't change. They very often don't.I see this as a good thing. The guy who wants to just get in yer pants, will never want much more, no matter how much you put out in hopes of changing him.The girl, though. Oh my. You find the girl of your dreams, and marry her. Then she changes. She no longer dresses to impress. She plumps up. She shoos all of your friends away.Too little romance. You don't love me.Too much romance. I'm bored of it.Sex is too short. I'm unfulfilled.Sex is too long. I'm sore.I'm not happy where we're at, let's move.I miss our old place.Do I look fat?I'm gonna start dieting tommorow.I'm so depressed 'cause I didn't start my diet yesterday that I ate a whole cake.It's insanity. Pure schizophrenia. 3|000008|Steve Lender|05-24-99|building up that cd collection |I'd say that you cannot go wrong with Sublime. If you're not famliar, it's a kind of regae/punk thing. Often very rich, very sublime. Sometimes punky. Excellent driving music.Oh yeah. And The Red Hot Chilli Peppers, "Blood Sugar Sex Magik." Funky as funk can be.And forget not Jane's Addiction. 3|000005|Steve Lender|05-24-99|What song line portrays a philosophy you uphold?|Let's imitate reality (insanity)Let's strive for mediocrity (insanity)Let's make believe we're all the same (insanity)Let's sanitize our little brains (insanity)I'd love to take you home with me and tuck you into bed I'd love to see what makes you tick inside your pretty head I'd love to hear you laugh tonight, I'd love to hear you weep I'd love to listen to you while you're screaming in your sleep Oingo Boingo, "Insanity." 3|000007|Steve Lender|05-24-99|high school shootings -- hm.|Hello Jeff.A very astute comment. Yes, it is the world that we made. It's been made exactly to the specifications that the blueprints of human nature dictate. It could be no different. We are basically spiteful and selfish. We are typically only violent when we don't get what we want.There are exceptions to this, but don't be afraid, it's only entropy. 3|000008|Claire|05-24-99|building up that cd collection |I have the same problem.. I can never find stuff I like. I love Ben Folds Five... I'm hoping to get their new album soon... but I also like stuff like Backstreet Boys, Luscious Jackson, Foo Fighters... a real mix of stuff. I want to get Better Than Ezra's new CD, too, even though I never seem to like more than one song off their albums. *shrug* http://www.northcoast.com/~mtaylor/ 2|000007|Shawn David Struck|05-25-99|Olvia! I GOTTA know!|So much to comment on, but it's late. I'm tired. So I will ask this:Where oh where did you get that supaa kawaii moogle picture?and say this:Ooo! Tables. I love well-done tables. Just see some of my postings on MBs that allow HTML for my tabley goodness.Oh, and kupoppo!--Shawn David Struck "Looooong ago, the Chu-chu tribe had a great big guardian god, who could step over huge mountains in one step. The Wondrous Mambo god, yes he was. The Chu-chu Tribe and the Wondrous Mambo god lived happily together in perfect harmony, yes we did. A dreamy sweet existence. But one day, a huuuge red fireball rained down from the sky, and blew away our guardian god as he was asleep. Blam, kablam, bloom! But don't worry! The great big guardian god became a star in the sky! He protects the Chu-chu Tribe, yes he does! Yes, yes, it's a great story... No matter how many times I listen to it, I'm so moved... yes, I am..."-- the legend of the Chu-chu Tribe, as told by a Chu-chu in Shevat 2|000007|olivia|05-25-99|Olvia! I GOTTA know!|I don't know where I got it. It's been on my hard drive for years. I probably snagged it from a Final Fantasy fanpage, because I've seen those 3D character images everywhere.Notice how the moogle doesn't have the little antenna thing. 4|000010|Steve Lender|05-25-99|Gals are shi*y...|Top 10 things Men know about Women.1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9.10. 4|000010|olivia|05-25-99|Gals are shi*y...|*LOL* 2|000007|Shawn David Struck|05-26-99|Olvia! I GOTTA know!|Ah.Oh yeah, I didn't quite notice that until you pointed that out.I think thaat would make it an FF5 moogle.At any rate, is till kawaii. Whenever you switch to a new design, can I take the picture? =)Wark wark!Wait a sec...--Shawn David Struck[When I suggested my .sig be included in this short message, it beat me up and took my lunch money.] 2|000004|Shawn David Struck|05-26-99|Troubleshooting|Stephanie--I have Windoze98 as well. I maintain that it's most likely an IRQ conflict and can easily be fixed by clicking on a few things. If you want, I cant make screen caputres of what to do, step by step.--Shawn{My sig wuld be insulted at tagging along with such a short message.] 4|000010|Shawn David Struck|05-26-99|Gals are shi*y...|Oh god.. "Do I look fat?" The eternal trick question.You say no, and the response is "You're just saying that!"And woe betide the man who says yes.And wait! I do know something about women! They like, have... y'know. And guys, have, like.. the other y'know.Now if you'll excuse me, I' gonna go watch football and burp a lot.--Shawn David Struck "Looooong ago, the Chu-chu tribe had a great big guardian god, who could step over huge mountains in one step. The Wondrous Mambo god, yes he was. The Chu-chu Tribe and the Wondrous Mambo god lived happily together in perfect harmony, yes we did. A dreamy sweet existence. But one day, a huuuge red fireball rained down from the sky, and blew away our guardian god as he was asleep. Blam, kablam, bloom! But don't worry! The great big guardian god became a star in the sky! He protects the Chu-chu Tribe, yes he does! Yes, yes, it's a great story... No matter how many times I listen to it, I'm so moved... yes, I am..."-- the legend of the Chu-chu Tribe, as told by a Chu-chu in Shevat 3|000007|Shawn David Struck|05-26-99|high school shootings -- hm.|Yeah, that's right. And it's a unoquely American late twentieth century nature to take big blipss of social abnormality and assume everyone else is going the same way. Blade Runner, here we come.Hey, you know, we COULD question why there's a need to own handguns in the first place.. no, wait, It's in the consitution, right next to the amendment allowing my to stockpile dum-dum hollow point bullets and assualt.. I mean, hunting rifles.Besides, can't these kids just wait until they're grown men before they start commiting genocide, like the rest of the world?Yeah, I'm feeling bitter tonight.--Shawn David Struck "Looooong ago, the Chu-chu tribe had a great big guardian god, who could step over huge mountains in one step. The Wondrous Mambo god, yes he was. The Chu-chu Tribe and the Wondrous Mambo god lived happily together in perfect harmony, yes we did. A dreamy sweet existence. But one day, a huuuge red fireball rained down from the sky, and blew away our guardian god as he was asleep. Blam, kablam, bloom! But don't worry! The great big guardian god became a star in the sky! He protects the Chu-chu Tribe, yes he does! Yes, yes, it's a great story... No matter how many times I listen to it, I'm so moved... yes, I am..."-- the legend of the Chu-chu Tribe, as told by a Chu-chu in Shevat 3|000008|spitfire|05-26-99|building up that cd collection |To Claire: I may be a *bit* bias, but I think BTE's "How Does Your Garden Grow" is their BEST CD to date. Far different from "Deluxe", more experimental, more mature, and Kevin's voice is just *amazing*. 4|000010|southern gurl|05-26-99|Gals are shi*y...|Okay, true, that is a generalization of the basic man, but you're doing the same thing with women! Not every woman worries about getting fat all the time! And not everywoman gets fat after getting married. My mom got married when she was 17 and had five kids over the next 16 years. She weighed 95lbs when she got married and she now weighs 110. 27 years later! I don't think we could call her fat. Whatchya think? I could name 100 women right NOW that hasn't gotten fat after marriage.Besides, ya'll change a good bit after marriage too. Gawd, doesn't everyone change?Geesh. I hate it when women are blamed for everything that goes wrong in a marriage. Either we've let ourselves go, gained a few pounds, can't cook worth a shit, or we aren't giving our hubbies the attention they need.pffffff.and yes, I am PMS'ing! =)Dana, the Southern Gurl<http://mailsync.org/dana> 4|000010|Steve Lender|05-26-99|Gals are shi*y...|suthernghurl- you could name 100 women? maybe you're exagerating...I can't name 100 people that I know.I don't think that I was laying blame on women for a relationship failure. Maybe I was. What I really think, though, is that there is a severe incompatibility between men and women that both must work very hard to overcome.duh. right?I don't ask any more of a woman than I'm willing to give. 4|000010|Steve Lender|05-26-99|Gals are shi*y...|Ok...I'm not done yet.I've yet to find a woman who will:cookANDcleanANDrub my backANDclean up my crapANDalways let me think I'm rightANDlet me watch sportsANDlet me "man" themANDlet me have sex with themWatcha doin' tonight, southerngurl? 3|000007|Steve Lender|05-26-99|high school shootings -- hm.|Last night on Fox, there was 2 hours of tragedy in full color and sound...broadcast for sheer entertainment.Every single news preview I saw had some kind of human crisis put on display to try to draw the attention of viewers.Supply and demand. There is a demand, so someone sees to it that there is a supply. Why is there a demand?Why is there a demand.Gosh, it must be because there are millions of hand gun owners.Oh wait...I know. It must be because the NRA promotes legal and responsible shooting.Perhaps it's because some people like to eat meat.Ya know? I think the government should just go ahead and save us all from ourselves.Guns are clearly dangerous, and should all be removed from society. Freedom of religion only encourages factions who are bound to feud with each other. Freedom of speech just means that people will waste their time on message boards instead of getting their work done. Scissors with points are inherently dangerous, as are pencils, screwdrivers, powertools, automobiles, over the counter medications, fire, water, trains, planes, boats, cellular phones, broom sticks, glass doors, stairs, hot coffee, soda pop bottles...Let's stop the forrest fire by cutting down all of the trees. 3|000004|Steve Lender|05-26-99|Favorite and least favorite commercial?|ok...my favorite is a Budweiser radio commercial.It's the language lab one, where the guy is repeating what a recording is saying in several different languages, except that he can't keep up.It's kinda stupid up to the point that the recording comes to what sounds like a chinese variant.Ching chi fong Bud Light Longneck.I laugh every damn time. 3|000004|Claire|05-26-99|Favorite and least favorite commercial?|The new Milky Way commercial really gets on my nerves... I always have to change the channel when that one comes on. I don't really have a favorite right now, but I always like the Gap khaki commercials. I think they're more interesting and entertaining... more like mini music videos. They're just advertising a product instead of an artist. http://www.northcoast.com/~mtaylor/ 4|000010|southern gurl|05-26-99|Gals are shi*y...|Well, damn. Am I giving my man too much? *L*I do clean his house (on occasion since we aren't married yet)I do cook for him. I rub his back almost EVERY afternoon. I know he works much harder than I.I do clean up his crap. like when he drops his clothes in the hallway. I put them in the dirty clothes and don't say ONE word.And I do let him think he's right (even when he's wrong) because it isn't worth arguing over.I do let him watch sports. I like watching sports myself. he's always "mans" me. and we do have sex. we both want to do that.and I have ZERO complaints.Am I doing too much? I bet there are lots of women who would do the same for their man. If they love him.- I think a relationship is something both have to work at, but I hate when people make out like its the woman that's the pain-in-the-butt. We women have PMS. We can't help it though. What's a man's excuse when he's an ass? 4|000010|southern gurl|05-26-99|Gals are shi*y...|Well, damn. Am I giving my man too much? *L*I do clean his house (on occasion since we aren't married yet)I do cook for him. I rub his back almost EVERY afternoon. I know he works much harder than I.I do clean up his crap. like when he drops his clothes in the hallway. I put them in the dirty clothes and don't say ONE word.And I do let him think he's right (even when he's wrong) because it isn't worth arguing over.I do let him watch sports. I like watching sports myself. he's always "mans" me. and we do have sex. we both want to do that.and I have ZERO complaints.Am I doing too much? I bet there are lots of women who would do the same for their man. If they love him.- I think a relationship is something both have to work at, but I hate when people make out like its the woman that's the pain-in-the-butt. We women have PMS. We can't help it though. What's a man's excuse when he's an ass?Dana, the Southern Gurl<http://mailsync.org/dana> 4|000010|southern gurl|05-26-99|Gals are shi*y...|sorry about that I hit submit twice accidently.Dana, the Southern Gurl<http://mailsync.org/dana> 2|000004|StephanE|05-26-99|Troubleshooting|I would love if you could do that! Thank you, thank you, thank you...I feel bad, though, like I should repay you somehow. I'll repay you somehow, someway. 3|000004|jeff|05-26-99|Favorite and least favorite commercial?|gotta love the budweiser commercials! and the "got milk?" commercials are extremely funny... - velasco@stones.com 3|000007|jeff|05-26-99|high school shootings -- hm.|i don't think the government can save ourselves. we, the "normal" people, are the only ones who can save ourselves. we can do nothing but hope for some of us to realize what we have done to our society. until then can we hope for a brighter future. but considering what direction we seem to be going to, with more releases of violent movies and video games and all other inappropriate things, i'm not sure if a brighter future is possible. - velasco@stones.com 4|000010|Steve Lender|05-26-99|Gals are shi*y...|"I hate when people make out like its the woman that's the pain-in-the-butt."To the man, it's the woman that is the pain in the butt. 3|000007|Steve Lender|05-26-99|high school shootings -- hm.|I don't think that violent games and movies are the actual problem. They may contribute to the actual problem, but they are not the actual source.How many people play video games and watch violent movies? Damn near all of them, I suspect. 270 million people (in the U.S.). How many instances come up where violent games and movies might contribute to an act of violence? 50...100 times a year? I doubt that many.What about in the 80's when the kids supposedly shot themselves because of listening to Judas Priest? Should we ban lyrics in music?Or the guy who got off on a charge of murder by claiming temporary insanity due to twinkies? We should outlaw pastries.I've played and watched violent media for years. Somewhere inside me, though, a respect for life was developed that no amount of indulgence in imaginary carnage is going to remove.This is what's missing in people who act violently. Respect for life. Whether caused by insanity, or lack of nurturing, or just messed up genetics.In the past, you had farms and hunting. On farms, it wasn't uncommon to butcher an animal. Not a pretty sight, and one that sticks with you. Ever shoot a deer? Another event that leaves a horrid image of death. People were reminded that death is scary.Now, nobody is reminded of it. The respect isn't there, and when it's not there the violent games and movies only contribute to an individual who had no concept of what violence means.ok. damn. I'm done. 4|000010|southern gurl|05-27-99|Gals are shi*y...|I give up.Dana, the Southern Gurl<http://mailsync.org/dana> 4|000013|southern gurl|05-27-99|let's be honest|How many of you get scared when you think about dying?Even though I know I'm a Christian and I'll go to Heaven, it scares me. I can't figure out why really.Dana, the Southern Gurl<http://mailsync.org/dana> 4|000013|Claire|05-27-99|let's be honest|Oh... definitely. I think death scares most people because it's such an unknown thing. I'm a Christian, too, and I believe I'm going to Heaven... but there are always little doubts and that's what scares me. I just try not to think about it... it mostly bothers me at night when I'm getting ready to go to sleep because I have totally awful allergies year round and can barely breathe, so it's extremely hard to relax and everything. I dunno... but, yes, death is a scary thing, but it is also a peaceful thing and though I'm scared of it, I have to accept it and I know that everyone dies and I will someday, too. http://www.northcoast.com/~mtaylor/ 4|000013|spitfire|05-27-99|let's be honest|I'm not religiously inclined though I do believe there is someone "up there". I'm afraid of it, even though I know I shouldn't be. When I lay in my bed, right before I go to sleep, I think about it. It seems peaceful, doesn't it? I'm not afraid of dying....I'm more afraid of missing out on *life*. I don't want to live forever, but I'm just not ready for what's next. I want my life to have a little significance in this world...and hopefully it'll be a long one. 2|000008|Bucky Backpack|05-27-99|Paint Shop Pro test outlines. Yippe! Ride on! |I remember for a long time seeing pages on the net of a large picture, with white text- and then a thin black outline... I finally figured it out.. In PSP5, use the txt tool; Do yer duty, make some text..black or something dark. keep it selected- then go to Selection > Modify > Contract.. then choose 1 pixel [i say 1 looks best] then ok.Now just fill in the contracted selection with another color.. say white.. and then deslect it. Voila! Instant Text outline! I love it! Check out [link]Http://www.flashbax.net/bucky/trickery for some shortshorts, I mean screenshots. [I really don't like shortshorts. That just slipped out.] -buckyrun jump play. Lets make music. = 14271658 2|000005|Bucky Backpack|05-27-99|cookies|buit what happened to the ever- so-simple;VEIW > Internet Options > Advanced tab > ::Scroll down and choose always accept cookies.:: ? I honly have IE4, but I am pretty sure that they wouldn't change that..bucky. run jump play. Lets make music. = 14271658 4|000013|southern gurl|05-28-99|let's be honest|It is somewhat comforting to know that others feel the same way I do. It is always at night right before I go to bed or am lying in bed when I think about it. I guess it is because that's when I say my prayers, think about my day, and dwell on the future.Dana, the Southern Gurl<http://mailsync.org/dana> 4|000013|jeffyen|05-28-99|let's be honest|"You aren't ready to live, until you're ready to die."Actually, I think death can be a very beautiful thing. It would be lovely if you can die calm and contented, I think that says a lot about the quality of life that you had and knowing that you'd lived a good and worthy life. (not really what you've done but who you are.)Glimpses ~ daily journal www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/8345 3|000008|meredith|05-28-99|building up that cd collection |One of my friends let me borrow her Joy Luck Club CD. ^_^ I've really been getting into just instrumentals, not the classical kind w/all those intrusments, just really soothing ones. Anyway, I really reccomend the Joy Luck Club if you like hearing instrumentals. -- Meredith 2|000009|Adri|05-28-99|Music to my ears ...|I've got a cool site to talk about: http://www.midspark.net/~opyl . Olivia m'dear, I've been reading your journal for a long time, so I knew you've been interested in music - but I've got to admit I was completely blown away by the high quality of your samples there. My geez, talk about stardom waiting to happen.So enough gushing. If by some random quirk of fate you haven't taken a listen yet, go go go. 4|000013|Shawn David Struck|05-29-99|let's be honest|Hmm. I don't believe in an invisible meta-parent that's gonna take care of my after I die (assuming I haven't pissed It off), so you'd think I'd be scared of dying.I'm not. That's not to say I'd jump at the chance to do stupid life risking things like cordless bungeeing or nude funkercise with Richard Simmons, or anything...Evenone dies eventually. It's just something that happens.I sorta feaar the loos of someone close to me dying, but I've been down that road before, too. So, I know how to deal with it.And besides, don't you get to dodge the whole issue of death entire in an afterlife?The whole "Oh, they're not REALLY dead, they're somplace else. A better place.", does it offer comfort? 'Cuase even when I did believe in god, it didn't offer any comfort one way or the other. I'm not trashing; just wondering.--Shawn "Looooong ago, the Chu-chu tribe had a great big guardian god, who could step over huge mountains in one step. The Wondrous Mambo god, yes he was. The Chu-chu Tribe and the Wondrous Mambo god lived happily together in perfect harmony, yes we did. A dreamy sweet existence. But one day, a huuuge red fireball rained down from the sky, and blew away our guardian god as he was asleep. Blam, kablam, bloom! But don't worry! The great big guardian god became a star in the sky! He protects the Chu-chu Tribe, yes he does! Yes, yes, it's a great story... No matter how many times I listen to it, I'm so moved... yes, I am..."-- the legend of the Chu-chu Tribe, as told by a Chu-chu in Shevat 2|000009|olivia|05-29-99|Music to my ears ...|Aww... 4|000013|spitfire|05-29-99|let's be honest|Jeff, that's a great quote. I'm not ready for death because I feel like I haven't yet accomplished anything. It doesn't have to be significant in terms of what I did or anything. I just don't want to die without being important in someone's life, or dying and not being remembered....basically wasting the time I had while I was alive, y'know? 2|000009|jeffyen|05-30-99|Music to my ears ...|I agree. If I were a music mogul, I'd sign Olivia to my label in a second! ;-P) Too bad I'm not a mogul. LOL!!But it's really feasible for someone to earn money in the way that olivia's doing now. I heard from somewhere that the average artist earns only about $1 for every CD sold if she's under a major label. If everyone who visits donates just $2, the profit would be quite substantiative.Glimpses ~ daily journal www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/8345 2|000009|Bucky Backpack|05-30-99|Music to my ears ...|Hye olivia.. I will make MP3's and Real Audio files.. they are a TON smaller than wave files- so people can listen to the whole song.. boncor@netzero.comor ICQ:14271658allright?-bvucky, russian buckyrun jump play. Lets make music. = 14271658 1|000013|Bucky Backpack|05-30-99|the impending demise of midspark|Hi.If you kill the domain, can I have your registered copy of UBB? Or.. wait.. This isn't the registered copy, is it? alas.Honestly, you know what I say? Kill the domain. The other people can obviously find another place- and they are going to understand about finding a place to move to.. (there is a billion sub domains out there- we just need to stop moaning about what name we are under!) If it is a waste of money, stop wasteing money. Go for telnet somewhere else! yey! -bucky run jump play. Lets make music. = 14271658 1|000013|olivia|05-30-99|the impending demise of midspark|Bucky, I'm going to keep my domain. Yes, this is a registered copy of UBB. My domain host has a deal arranged with Madrona Park or whoever the UBB people are, so I'm allowed to set up as many UBBs on my domain as I please. 2|000009|olivia|05-30-99|Music to my ears ...|Bucky, I tried encoding the waves into RA, but I found the distortion to be displeasing. And I'd lose my account if I uploaded any mp3s, let alone linked to any. (Yes, I know and my host knows not all mp3s are illegal, but the rules are the rules.) 1|000013|Bucky Backpack|05-30-99|the impending demise of midspark|Hey thats cool you are going to keep it.. I kidna understand.How many megs do you get where you are hosted? Can I be another web-space-without-ads monger and ask you to host a index page and some pictures? I love UBB.. it is so simple and nice.. now iof I can just figure out how to change my name to a shorter one.. I = buckyRussian Bucky = Bvucky 4|000013|Jocelyn|05-30-99|let's be honest|I must say, that I do get frightened when I think of dying, even though I *am* a Christian and believe in an afterlife in heaven for blissful eternity. Sometimes I think it's too good to be true, that no one (not even God) could love me that much or want me to be in such a place.And, even thinking that there could be a place better than this world, at times, seems like stretching it to me.I get frightened of death when I think of what might happen if my life ended tomorrow. I can be the first to say that I would have regrets, about things I said or didn't say, wish I had done or wish I hadn't done. I think everyone does. But most of all, I'd want to know where I left my friends.I don't know about you, but I hate having half of a story running around in my brain (like when your aunt gives you a book to a series and doesn't give you the rest, or something). For me, that would be like what it would be if I died young -- all the stories my friends would have to tell me would be incomplete.-- Jocelyn________________________________http://www.ultranet.com/~jocelyn 3|000004|Jocelyn|05-30-99|Favorite and least favorite commercial?|I'd have to say, that I absolutely loved this commercial I saw during the Super Bowl a few years ago...A guy was sitting in front of his porch on a buggy summer night, eating greasy pizza with loads of tabasco sauce on it. A mosquito comes and lands on him, and he sits there, grinning at it, and lets it suck as much blood as it wants. The mosquito gets its fill, begins to fly off, and then explodes.And, of course, the "got milk" commercial, where the guy goes to what he thinks is heaven, and is greeted with all of these angels holding trays and trays of chocolate-chip cookies. A refridgerator comes out of the clouds, filled with milk cartons. The man opens each and every one, distressed to find no milk at all. As he opens the last one, he gives a puzzled look to the camera, and you see the words "got milk?" on fire at the bottom of the screen.Commercials that advertize Barbies or any other pink girly toy annoy me.-- Jocelyn http://www.ultranet.com/~jocelyn/ 3|000007|Jocelyn|05-30-99|high school shootings -- hm.|I must say, you are all right in saying that no matter what we outlaw, it won't solve the basic problem. While we try to blame the problem on the media, on cliques, on violent games and movies, we're ignoring the real thing that teenagers need (and that I will readily acknowledge I need, being a teenager), which is unconditional love and acceptance.If these teenagers felt loved and cared about by friends, respected by other people, they probably wouldn't have felt outcasted by society and their peers so much as to feed off of "Doom" or any violent film or game that came along.I'm sure that explanation may sound sappy and idealistic, but I think it's the root of the problem, because every human being needs to feel loved, it's a basic and probably the most important need.-- Jocelyn http://www.ultranet.com/~jocelyn/ 3|000007|olivia|05-31-99|high school shootings -- hm.|I think these things are always going to happen. The bad side of human emotions are going to find some way of appearing no matter what we do. Even if every parent in the world gave his/her child unconditional love, no parent is perfect. A child can feel resentment for living a sheltered life. An otherwise obedient child may grow up to be a drinking, wild, party animal to experience a new kind of rush. People are going to feel certain things despite their upbringing. You can teach kids to accept each other, but there's still always going to be "the outsider." It's just how people act.I think this is the message behind "The Lord of the Flies." You know, put a bunch of rich, well-mannered, educated young boys on an island and watch them up and kill each other.I don't think violent movies/videogames/music are to blame for violence among adolescents. Violence among youngsters, gangs and what have you, existed before the movies/videogames/music of the '90s. 4|000013|olivia|05-31-99|let's be honest|Maybe I'm weird. I haven't thought about death in a long time, and the last time I was scared thinking about it was from the thought that I might die without much completion in my life. When I was Christian, I used to be scared of dying. I mean, imagining what would happen to me if I found out that I -wasn't- saved, all the stuff in the Bible about the torture I would go through. But that's not how things are for me anymore, and I'm just taking it one day at a time. 4|000013|southern gurl|05-31-99|let's be honest|That's the difference between a believer and a non-believer. Faith. Dana, the Southern Gurl<http://mailsync.org/dana> 4|000013|olivia|05-31-99|let's be honest|Oh, so I'm a non-believer now? 1|000013|olivia|05-31-99|the impending demise of midspark|It's not the space limitations that would stop me from hosting you. It's the fact that I have a limit to how many FTP accounts I can create, and seeing as to how I don't think I've ever seen any of your pages and don't know how much I can trust you, no. 3|000007|jeff|05-31-99|high school shootings -- hm.|I agree with Jocelyn. If the boys had received love and attention, then I think this terrible tragedy wouldn't have happened. Where were the parents when the kids were making bombs? Were the kids that stealth, spending endless hours inside a garage without getting noticed, or were the parents just not giving them any attention? Rolling Stones have several articles about the Columbine shooting and they somehow pieced the puzzle together. I would scan them but the pages are way too big. I would also retype them, but I'm too lazy and they wrote quite a lot. June 10th is date of the issue, though, if you'd like to pick it up.- velasco@stones.com 3|000007|olivia|06-01-99|high school shootings -- hm.|If neglect on the parents' part is the root cause of violence, I think the we would have A LOT more school shootings. 4|000013|southern gurl|06-01-99|let's be honest|The rest of my entry didn't submit or something! I had like a whole other paragraph. Sorry Olivia. I didn't mean it sound like that! I don't remember what exactly I had typed, but I was going to say that is what most religious leaders tell us. The difference between believers and non believers is faith. However, I'm a believer and I have faith, but the uncertainty of it still scares me. I mean I guess my faith just isn't strong enough. I don't know. I pray about it every night, but I still don't have all the answers. I guess that means I need to have more faith?Arggh. It is so confusing sometimes.Dana, the Southern Gurl<http://mailsync.org/dana> 4|000013|Steve Lender|06-01-99|let's be honest|I'm reserving my beliefs on gods and afterlives until I get there.That gives me something to look forward to. 3|000007|Steve Lender|06-01-99|high school shootings -- hm.|I agree with Jocelyn's statement about love and attention...to an extent. I completely hold the parents of the Columbine Killers responsible. I know how many times a day my 1yr old wrecks his diaper with waste. I know from where he gets every bruise and scratch on his body. I know what words he's learned and when he learned them. The parents of the Killers didn't know that they were smashing up glass in the garage and making bombs? Give to me a fucking break! MY dad knew everything I was up to. Even the stuff that there is no way he could know.I agree with Olivia. These things will always happen. You can cut down the instances with love, but there's just going to be the one person who can't cope, and SNAP. How the hell do you control the ways in which a person can snap? 3|000004|Steve Lender|06-01-99|Favorite and least favorite commercial?|The ones that burn me the most are food commercials, usually aimed at kids, that describe their product as being "fun." Fun food. I wanna have some fun...Let's go eat some food. I'm not having any fun...think I'll eat some food.This is how we make fat little Americans.America, Land of Fun Food. 3|000007|jeff|06-01-99|high school shootings -- hm.|One of the Stones articles says that the root cause of the tragic accident is how even a little kindergarten can get a hold of guns in an instant. To an extent, it is true. If the kids didn't get a hold of deadly weapons, then some of the victims could have been still alive. On another note, they did find ways to make pipe bombs through the internet. Should we censor the internet to protect us from such tragic incidents? We should, but with the internet's population and its grow spurts, I doubt we'll be able to completely.- velasco@stones.com 3|000008|StephanE|06-01-99|building up that cd collection |Well, I wouldn't know about the music, but the movie The Joy Luck Club is one of my favorites ("I love it! I love it! I love it!"). The Pleasantville Soundtrack was great and I really thought the Across the Universe song was one of the highlights of the CD. I've heard the Beatles version, but it didn't catch me so much as the Fiona Apple cover, for some reason. I'm so happy Amazon.com agrees with me! (The thing is, I hate the critics if I disagree with them and love the critics if I agree with them. I'm biased like that). I have an obsession with the Semisonic CDs (Feeling Strangely Fine, Great Divide). Yum! 4|000013|StephanE|06-01-99|let's be honest|I'm a half-Christian, or well, I label myself as one. The thing is, I'm not so much focused on Jesus as other Christians are. I know many Christians talk about Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, but I talk about God, God, God. I don't believe that non-believers go to Hell or that all believers go to Heaven. No, I think that being a "good" person is the key. I know some downright awful people who are Christians and religious. I think some of the bible is true, but that most of it was changed to suit other people's ideas. The bible is changing now, you see, there's different versions (like the Good News Bible) and it's adapting to become more politically correct. I don't think gay people go to hell, or things like that. But hey, that's my belief. 4|000013|StephanE|06-01-99|let's be honest|Oh, yes, and I'm very afraid of death. Reincarnation is part of my wishful thinking because knowing I'm somewhere for eternity frightens me. Reincarnation for eternity doesn't seem so bad to me, for some reason, but after awhile, peace would be nice.I used to imagine when I was younger after watching a movie that we went to heaven and then came back down as a different person. In heaven, we were allowed control over what our next life would be like by how "good" a person we were in the previous life. At that age, physical beauty was very important to me, and I'd imagine that people would be able to draw their future embodiments and that their drawing abilities depended on how "good" or "bad" a person was. 1|000013|ryan|06-01-99|the impending demise of midspark|Ok. You don't know me, but I own a domain and it's hosted by CommuniTech. CommuniTech DOES offer telnet. And they allow you to create 25 ftp accounts. How many more do you need?!Just thought I'd let you know about that telnet stuff. thunder.org 1|000013|olivia|06-02-99|the impending demise of midspark|OH MY GOSH! Communitech offers Telnet? Hell, why didn't I know that? Do they offer UBBs, too? 3|000007|olivia|06-02-99|high school shootings -- hm.|Jeff Velasco, is that you? Man! I remember you. 4|000013|olivia|06-02-99|let's be honest|Steph - See, that's the thing. I don't see how you can call yourself a Christian and still have these other beliefs on the side. With Christianity, you're either orthodox or you're not Christian. You have to follow the Christian creed, and you have to worship God the way the rules direct you to. You can't loosely stand on the middle ground to avoid offending the non-Christians and still please the Christians. It's a very clear-cut thing. Having the side beliefs, the beliefs you made up because something in you tells you they're right, contradicts proper Christian code.Let me tell you something. I used to be where you were, too. I thought following the Christians would bring me comfort and stability. In a way, it did. But it also brought me fear. Then last year, I gave up Christianity and went with what my heart told me. And you know what? My FAITH in God and in my own mind strengthened. I haven't felt any true fear since. 3|000004|Shawn David Struck|06-02-99|Favorite and least favorite commercial?|I think the secret to a good, funny commercial is one that doesn't try too hard to be outré or "wacky".Like, those "Made by Dan" Miller Lite commercials... those were funny for about the first two seconds. Then afterwards, as each one got weider and weider, it was like "What the HELL is the ad company smoking? And where can I get it?" ^_~And while the Sprite ads parody the very institution it comes from well (the techniques used often by soft drink companies to sell a product), I think the 7-Up commercials are unintentionally hillarious. Ooo... the scary conformists or after me! I know, by drinking an "underground" mass produced soda, I'll be a UN(tm).. I can join the crowd and be an individual!"Oh, and that Luvs commercial with the talking diaper is just plain creepy.--Shawn "Looooong ago, the Chu-chu tribe had a great big guardian god, who could step over huge mountains in one step. The Wondrous Mambo god, yes he was. The Chu-chu Tribe and the Wondrous Mambo god lived happily together in perfect harmony, yes we did. A dreamy sweet existence. But one day, a huuuge red fireball rained down from the sky, and blew away our guardian god as he was asleep. Blam, kablam, bloom! But don't worry! The great big guardian god became a star in the sky! He protects the Chu-chu Tribe, yes he does! Yes, yes, it's a great story... No matter how many times I listen to it, I'm so moved... yes, I am..."-- the legend of the Chu-chu Tribe, as told by a Chu-chu in Shevat 4|000013|southern gurl|06-02-99|let's be honest|You're right Olivia. One cannot call themself a Christian and take the middle ground.Good works do not get us to heaven. Otherwise none of us would be going. I'm thankful to God that it isn't that way and he extends his Grace to us. We're all sinners without him "living" in us we're doomed to an eternity of hell. --------Dana, the Southern Gurlhttp://mailsync.org/dana 4|000013|Steve Lender|06-02-99|let's be honest|I just received a spam in my inbox inviting me to purchase a certificate into heaven. For only $17.77, when the world ends at the stroke of midnight, Dec 31, I'll be whisked away to heaven, instead of enduring the turmoil of fire and brimstone.So, hey...I'm set.There is no more endless a conversation than religion. I *hope* that there is something after death because it would make life seem like not so much a waste of time.The samurai would wake in the morning and try to imagine in vivid detail every way he could conceive of being killed to prepare himself for the inevitability that he would eventually be killed.Religion is just another way to find some kind of strength to face another day.I find strength in each day just because I want to see what's going to happen...good or bad. I can't wait to see how life unfolds. 3|000007|Steve Lender|06-02-99|high school shootings -- hm.|Hey, Jeff.Why stop at censoring the internet? You can find bomb instructions in any kind of written media. From a history book, I could make a primitive black powder. Just from a chemistry class, I could figure out ways to mass extinguish anyone I want. Jeez...I've a car in my driveway with a big bumper. I could cruise around a parking lot for quite awhile, running over anyone I wanted.I think we ought to stop public schooling. Clearly, reducing the concentration of children would reduce the carnage when a misfit blows a fuse.The problem is not the information. The problem is people not using the information responsibly (or sanely). We need to be able to spot the insanity before it pops, without interfering in people's rights.The pisser in Littleton is that there were dozens of people who *could* have seen it coming, but instead turned the other way. 1|000014|Steve|06-02-99|Moogles!|I love the moogle on your design! Mog kicked ass, kupo! 3|000004|Claire|06-02-99|Favorite and least favorite commercial?|ooh... that reminds me. I hate hate *hate* diaper commercials... I mean... it's child pornography. I don't need to see some strange baby's naked rear end... I used to like SNL's fake commercials. They've just gotten a lot more lewd over the years, as has the show itself. I saw a best of SNL commercials thing, though, and there was this one with a cat hacking up furballs... it was just the most hillarious thing. My sister & I were cracking up & I really don't laugh that often, especially at the TV. (c: http://www.northcoast.com/~mtaylor/ 3|000007|jeff|06-02-99|high school shootings -- hm.|Yes, this all comes down to Jocelyn's point. If they had received attention, then I think the problem could have been prevented. Spotting a flaw is THE problem in our society. We live in a place where we could care less about a crisis until something terrible happens. Then, after a couple of months or so, we tend to shrug our shoulders and live our lives again and not worry about such an incident until we witness another one. How many school shootings were there before the Colorado one? I don't think ending public education is a sane solution. What about the poor, low-incomed families who want their children to get an education? The only place they can turn to is public education. Besides, private education does not mean we can reduce the fatalities when a demented child decides to act even more moronic. It only means lessening the amount of children in a school, which is logical to what Steve is saying. But still, I don't think ending public education is a good solution. Yes, Olivia, it's me. Aren't you happy? "Beer: Helping ugly people have sex since 1862!" 4|000013|StephanE|06-02-99|let's be honest|No offence, but I'm rather narrow-minded (there's a better word for this, but I can't think of it) and so, I am completely ignorant of the words you write and believe that I am right (to say rather bluntly). But that's okay because I'll think about what you all have said later, when I feel I most need it. Actually, it's not really death I'm worried about (I used to get desperately frightened about it, but not so much anymore), it's just the act of death that scares me. 3|000007|olivia|06-02-99|high school shootings -- hm.|*scratches head* I thought Steve was being sarcastic when he proposed the disposal of public education.It's always seemed to me that so-called poor families are more close-knit than the middle to high class families (from which the two Littleton gunmen were from). The kids in poorer families may not get spoiled rotten loving attention from their parents, but they get responsiblities. Maybe we should get rid of money so that everyone's poor. Or maybe allow public schooling for only poor people.- Olivia 2|000010|Cadenza|06-02-99|Shameless Advertising|here I am, degrading my self, asking you to please come to my site! www.angelfire.com/ct/zany ________Alexandra _____________ www.angelfire.com/ct/zany 4|000014|ari|06-02-99|...help?|yeah. so...the main thing is, i think i'm in love. and i'm deathly afraid of this conclusion because there's a whole lot of ugly stuff behind it. so i'll wait and see if anyone replies before i go spilling all the gory details...?thanks... 4|000014|olivia|06-02-99|...help?|Is it that bad? *curious* 3|000007|jeff|06-02-99|high school shootings -- hm.|Was it sarcasm? I had no clue if it was. Hmmm.That is so true! Poor families tend to be more close to each other and have more morals and values. I guess they just try to make the best out of every opportunity they get, considering they don't get too many, unlike the middle to high class ones, who tend to become spoiled and rotten."Beer: Helping ugly people have sex since 1862!" 4|000014|Shawn David Struck|06-03-99|...help?|Hey, if it'll help you to talk about it, please do.Pain shared is lessend; joy shared is increased.While I am not the type of person that's been in a zillion and one relationships, I have cared about someone enough to be engaged (until she left me for another guy. ;_ . And I'm happily ina relationship now, but everyting has its own scary moments.Please, ari.. talk, if yu believe it will help you in any way, shape or form.--Shawn David Struck 2|000009|Shawn David Struck|06-03-99|Music to my ears ...|Even LINKING? Jesus H. Christ!Well, actually the site that has the ending of .com and has the part "mp3" in front of it has a very nicve deal...You create a CD cover in JPG format, 24 color depth, 300 dpi and a certain ht. and width size, and send them wave files of your songs... they then take them, convert them to Redbook Audio, and put them on a CD. You can then sell the CD on thier site at no charge, they do all the work for you. It's a really good deal; a friend of mine in a rap group (I'm designing the 2 CD covers) is doing this. It's VERY cost effective.--Shawn David Struck "Looooong ago, the Chu-chu tribe had a great big guardian god, who could step over huge mountains in one step. The Wondrous Mambo god, yes he was. The Chu-chu Tribe and the Wondrous Mambo god lived happily together in perfect harmony, yes we did. A dreamy sweet existence. But one day, a huuuge red fireball rained down from the sky, and blew away our guardian god as he was asleep. Blam, kablam, bloom! But don't worry! The great big guardian god became a star in the sky! He protects the Chu-chu Tribe, yes he does! Yes, yes, it's a great story... No matter how many times I listen to it, I'm so moved... yes, I am..."-- the legend of the Chu-chu Tribe, as told by a Chu-chu in Shevat 3|000007|olivia|06-03-99|high school shootings -- hm.|Jeff, hey there.. I wouldn't go so far with the generalizations.What kind of poor family are you talking about, and how do you know they stand for the majority of poor families? There are plenty of poor families whose morals and values are spoiled and rotten, and it's very possible their morals and values are what landed them in the lower class. Maybe they get plenty of opportunities, but they just don't use them wisely. One example I can come up with off the top of my head is addicted gamblers who constantly lose money, although I'm not implying all poor people are addicted gamblers.How do you get the idea that middle to high class families tend to be spoiled and rotten?Just because they're opposite of the poor people economically, they're opposite morally? Hell, no. I live in an area that's middle to high class, and there are the spoiled bastards, I'll give you that, but there are also quite a few good people who welcome me into their homes. From what I see, families that are long established in the upper class tend to be good people. Such as the parents of one of the boys. Wasn't the dad a successful local businessman?I'm sure the parents thought they could trust their boys. You heard everyone saying how they didn't expect violence coming from those boys. That could be why the parents didn't inquire about the activities occurring in their garages prior to the school sabotage. Trust.There are a lot of kids who are neglected by their parents. I'm one of them, and yes, I've gone through a lot of pain because of it. Hell, I could blame them for all my problems, if I knew that it wasn't their fault. Every child has his own way of dealing with the neglect. But what are we supposed to do? Tell every parent to NOT neglect his child? It's not going to work, because there are so many different kinds of parents. Single mothers, single fathers, teenage parents, foster parents... And there are so many different cultures in which people raise their children differently. I know my parents are only raising me the way their parents raised them. My mom and my dad both came from completely differently classes, and the way they raised me was a very Chinese way.I don't think it's about class or about attention from parents. I think it's about looking out for each other. (Isn't that what Steve said earlier?) The first to notice when something is not right about a kid are the other kids. 3|000007|jeff|06-03-99|high school shootings -- hm.|Right, I just realized I was generalizing. I completely understand your point, so I'll go ahead and shut up. I think there's a difference between trust and neglect though. They may have trusted the two boys, but where were they when they were making the bombs inside their garages, spending endless amounts of hours making weird noises? I think an average parent would begin to worry and check on the kids. But where were they? They may have trusted them, but didn't they neglect, also?Didn't know this topic would get this long... 4|000014|ari|06-03-99|...help?|wow... okay...1. everyone in the world has had a crush on this guy, whether they actually knew him or not, just because they thought he was cute. i don't want to be just one more in this line, even though he is my friend and we do talk. i'd like to think this is more than an obsessive little crush.2. my "friend" falls into the category mentioned above, with -her- obsessive little crush. she talks about him more than she talks about her exboyfriend, which she is decidedly -not- over, which is all the time. i really wouldn't be this hard on her except that she's always lusting after the latest guy she's seen and throwing herself at them, which is what she did with this guy, then asking me for my advice, then not taking it and making bad decisions, then coming to me to mope and get reassurance. to put it short, she's boy crazy.3. the guy in question has already told her that he doesn't feel anything toward her. yet she won't stop obsessing over him like it was yesterday, when in fact it's been at least a year and a half.4. WHY does she always have to gripe about it to ME? (because i'm the only one who listens. hmph.)which leads us to our next post... 4|000014|ari|06-03-99|...help?|5. both of my parents have more or less told me to break off this one-sided "friendship," because all it's doing is dragging me down and complicating things, and they're really right. but easier said than done. keep this in mind...6. (back to the "crush" issue...) what makes me think that the fact that i seem to have feelings about this (i can't decide if i do or not, because it would be too complicated if i do) makes those feelings legitimate? who am i to say that my feelings are worth more than hers? (of course, my feelings are thought through, rational, logical, and not spur-of-the-moment-fueled-by-my-hormones actions...)7. and i still think she only likes him because he's "cute." every time they're together she manages to bring up the fact that she still wants him, and always makes him hug her and kiss her and has made him take her out on dates in the past. but the point of this number was, i think i'm the only female friend he has that doesn't and/or hasn't wanted his body. good grief. arg - wait. well, i was...8. until he met up with one of his old friends this past year, and he's in love with her. which is sweet. only she has a long distance boyfriend. but of course she's the quintessential model-looking thing, and i quote: "tall, 5 foot 10, blonde hair, thin." his words.9. i'm not.and now i guess i realize what this is actually all about, which leads us to our next post... 4|000014|ari|06-03-99|...help?|i guess i'm just "missing" him (and/or being mad) because he doesn't/won't keep in touch. and i realize guys don't call, or email, or write letters, or send smoke signals, or anything! but this is the guy who told ME to keep in touch. which is yet another long, ugly story...we really didn't talk much until year before last, when we had classes together. but it was so much fun. and during that year he did little things that now, hearing about other things that he's done, i guess i can't take too seriously. it's not malicious, he's just a naturally nice person, and i guess he's nice to everyone. but still... (i'd have to tell you what they were, and i will, but not right now...)so one day about a year ago we were somewhere and we got in a fight and i screamed at him and left. later i wrote him a letter saying i was sorry, and he turned around and wrote me back this big long thing about how much i meant to him and what an amazing person i was and blah blah blah and i guess it doesn't mean anything now.i guess nothing means anything anymore.(and now for some bad news: the letter so confused me that i showed it to two of my friends, who i knew would keep it quiet, and their reactions were a lot stronger than mine, i.e. "he's in love with you." that was last year. this year, i made the mistake of telling a couple of people that, well, maybe there was something there (only one of these was one who had seen the letter.) so now what? i'm tempted to ditch everybody and forget all about it.)i guess nothing means anything anymore. 4|000013|Clarity|06-03-99|let's be honest|Think whatever you want of me, but I don't think you have to be Christian to get to heaven. 4|000014|olivia|06-03-99|...help?|I don't think I know about you or the issue well enough to give you any sound advice. But you should know that whatever you may choose has to be your decision entirely.You seem like someone who puts her own feelings aside to be the listener among your friends. And there are some people who will grow to take you for granted. You should try to be assertive to those people. Let them know you'll always be there to listen to them, but you've got your problems too. They have to learn to respect you for what you feel, too.If your friendship with the girl is worth keeping, she should eventually understand where you're coming from if you tell her. It seems like she wouldn't have a problem with attaching herself to another guy, and she might be able to help you patch things up between you and the guy. Because with the way things are going now, the friendship is costing more for you than it is for her.Anyway, if I were in your shoes, I would try to talk to the guy. You two used to be good friends, right? So there's nothing to be afraid of. Remind him about when you were friends, about the letter he wrote to you, and let him know you're still there. Who knows? Deep inside, he's probably still thinking about you because you're the only girl who's ever really appreciated him. But see, you're friends with that one girl who obsesses over him, and maybe that's what's keeping him away from you. So what I would do if I were you would be to just let him know your position and where you would like to be with him. Then give him some time. You might be putting your heart on the line, but from your tone, you've already endured a lot and need a finale (or least least a turning point) to the whole situation.Good luck. I hope you work things out.- Olivia 4|000014|ari|06-03-99|...help?|thanks, really... i don't have anyone to talk to about this here, everyone seems to be stabbing me in the back... i don't think the friendship is worth keeping, but that doesn't mean i'm going to be mean to her...and i still don't know about the other girl. i mean, i care about him so much that if what he wants is to be with her, then i want that for him, too... & i guess she does appreciate him, from how he feels about her... plus, she's pretty, and a whole lot of other things i won't get into right now...but see, when i said she was tall and blonde, i neglected to mention that she was tall, blonde, and white.and i'm not.and that screws up all the little things he used to do even more...i really don't know...but thanks for your advice, no one's ever been honest with me, and i will think about it. 4|000013|spitfire|06-03-99|let's be honest|But then, if you're not Christian you probably don't believe there is a Heaven, right? 4|000013|Ada|06-03-99|let's be honest|Wrong.I'm not a full Christian, or Catholic for that matter. I'm basically... nothing. But you know what? I still believe theres a Heaven and Hell. Is it possible to still believe in God, and not be Christian? I don't goto church, I don't read the bible... and never have.But I still believe in him. My friends still consider me "a nothing". 4|000013|olivia|06-04-99|let's be honest|Ada, of course it's possible.Christianity isn't the only road to God.- Olivia 4|000013|Clarity|06-04-99|let's be honest|Of course I believe in Heaven! I don't have to be Christian or anything else for that matter to "properly" believe in something. And I *am* Catholic, by birth, and a soul searcher who doesn't know what religion she wants by choice.Christians aren't alone in having faith. 4|000013|southern gurl|06-04-99|let's be honest|Yes, anyone can have faith in God. But you have to be truly saved by Him to be one of His children. Believing in Him and believing on Him are two different things. I mean, everyone knows there is a God. It was born into them. It is whether or not you are living FOR him that makes the difference.I'm not saying all this to offend anyone, just like ya'll it is what I believe is true. It is true!If you are not a child of God and have not accepted him into your heart, and are not trying to live the way he wants you to, you will not go to Heaven.--------Dana, the Southern Gurlhttp://mailsync.org/dana 4|000013|olivia|06-04-99|let's be honest|Jehovah's Witnesses place their faith in God. But hey, they don't even believe in Heaven. They believe that life on earth IS hell, and when you die, your spirit stays with your body until Armageddon.Dana, you're citing what the Christians believe. The thing is, God exists outside of Christianity, too. He did eons before Christianity even developed. So what suddenly makes Christianity the ONLY true way to find God?- Olivia 1|000014|olivia|06-04-99|Moogles!|I know.. Did you play Mog House at the Golden Saucer? It was SOOO CUTE!!! *baby noises* 1|000015|olivia|06-04-99|Midspark board|Do you like having it be small, or would you prefer more participants? 1|000015|Claire|06-04-99|Midspark board|I dunno... When it's bigger there are more people and more opinions and everything, but then you also get more losers and unwanted posts... I guess I like it how it is... It's nice to know that people are coming her from your page, too, and not just because they think you have a "kewl" domain or something. It seems like more intelligent people here as it is... but, it could have a slightly larger population. I guess that wouldn't hurt too much. *shrug* Not much of a conclusive answer, huh? http://www.northcoast.com/~mtaylor/ 1|000015|Steve|06-04-99|Midspark board|As long as someone eventually replies, I'm okay with the size. People are too spoiled by the "big" boards to appreciate the nice change of pace that comes with posting at places like this - more friendly audience, less chance of someone being a "topic police", you can get to know others more easily. 2|000004|StephanE|06-05-99|Troubleshooting|My computer, out of nowhere, has done something to itself (without any human interference) and now plays sounds on the internet. Wahoo! I just hope this lasts.At first, I didn't notice the "You've Got Mail!" greeting when I first came on. I was surprised at the sound, but too dumb enough to realize what happened until I surfed the net and heard a midi on a site, then I went, "Wait...I can hear sound now?" 4|000013|Shawn David Struck|06-06-99|let's be honest|I am reminded of a saying in the Shinto teachings:"Many paths, one truth".And it's entirely possible to beleive in god and not believe in other tenets of a religion. And an organized religion is not neccessary to believe in god, either.And, as most assume, belief in a high power isn't a prerequisite for being a spiritual person, though most people associate spiritualism with such. Hey, c'mon.. Buddha was an atheist (which means he'd probally have a luagh if he saw the entire offshoot of Zen that has him at the center of a religion).I'm a spiritual person, I practice zazen, which is basically zen meditation without the religious parts to it. ^^;; BUt I don't belive in god or anthing like that.However, I don't begrudge anyone that DOES> It's everyone's choice to make, and whatever gives you strength and hope in your life, I say go for it...Also, I'd like to comment that this discussion has been pretty balanced, which is good.Dana-- I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.And hey, lest we lose some perspective here--"Do not pass judgement on others-- you could both be wrong."If there were a god, i'm sure it would have a sense of humor-- I mean, c'mon... look at the platypus. --Shawn David Struck[My sig would show itself, but it's worried about being mobbed by autograph hounds.] 4|000013|Andrew Sione Taumoefolau|06-06-99|let's be honest|Source your quotes, Shawn ."Those people who tell me that I'm going to hell while they are going to heaven somehow make me very glad that we're going to separate destinations."Martin Terman 2|000009|Bucky Backpack|06-06-99|Music to my ears ...|this is a reply to both above people.. what site does all that mp3 stuff? I wold love to try that out! What is redbook audio? ________as for the .RA problem, I would tell yah to go for cool edit 96- or 97 from download.comit is a shareware program that limits what you can do in one session- but it works..what you need to do for yer audio is to "normalize" it.. take out those huge peaks so the sound doesn't get scratchy at the stum of the guiter or a loud voice.. download it.. it is like 3 MB.. so it is small.. and I will help to use it if you want.. termonuclear@hotmail.com icq 14271658 2|000009|Bucky Backpack|06-06-99|Music to my ears ...|forgot to say: thats a bumma you can't link to mp3's.. hmm.. at least you could tell people to email you about the formats.. what is the hosting people's site? CAn i check out their services?-bucky 1|000015|Shannon|06-06-99|Midspark board|I think that small boards are better - I havent posted here in quite awhile but I've lurked Big boards have their good points - there is lots of posts and usually everything is replied to. I think thought that it's the quality not the quantity of posts - so long as you are still getting enough to have a good conversation that's all that matters.I would rather that my board stayed small..I only just linked it from my page and I'll see how that goes but I definetly would prefer that it stays small. It seems more friendly that way.This is not the way home http://www.restless.org/cellulite 1|000015|Steve|06-07-99|Midspark board|But, with smaller boards, you have to worry about it looking like it's only a certain group of people that posts on there, which might intimidate people *grin*. 1|000015|Shannon|06-07-99|Midspark board|*L* you got me that's true. The people are your boards have some of the best pages in our group and some of them intimidate me 2|000011|olivia|06-07-99|new ubb|I have my own UBB, but I've never used UBB code before. Hehe, whoops. I hope I'm getting this right, lest I make a fool of myself. :P www.restless.org/cellulite/cgi/ubb/ New UBB by Shannon (aka Seraph). The boards offer some real discussion on real issues. It's got nice, big, readable fonts and lots of smart people. 2|000009|olivia|06-07-99|Music to my ears ...|Bucky, yeah, I'll have to try that. It's hard for me to imagine people actually listening to me play whole songs when I'm not there to perform for them in person. So I'd like to do some more improving, varying my rhythm and such, to NOT make the songs with just me and my guitar sound boring.I'm hosted by the Communitech.net folks. Not very snazzy service, but you get lots of stuff you can't get elsewhere for that kind of money.And.. I believe Shawn was talking about mp3.com. *cough cough* - OliviaSmartest when delirious, honest when tired, and adminstator when board. 4|000013|southern gurl|06-07-99|let's be honest|I'm not judging anyone here!I'm stating what I know is true by what I've learned from reading God's word.I don't get offended by anyone who is an supposed "atheist" or who doesn't believe that Christianity is the only path to God. It is their belief, not matter if it is wrong or not. But I will not back off and just agree with you for the sake of agreeing. Sorry.BTW, I agree with you Shawn David Struck. This discussion has been well-balanced and I'm glad to know everyone that visits here isn't afraid to speak their mind and tell people what they believe!--------Dana, the Southern Gurlhttp://mailsync.org/dana 2|000011|Shannon|06-08-99|new ubb|Thanks olivia 2|000012|meredith|06-10-99|midi pages|I'm starting a page with a good friend of mine. It's going to be sort of an e-zine, but it's not. Having an e-zine would imply that we would have actual content, and the only reason why were starting it in the first place is because we both have a need for some new age exhibitionism. We've been talking about this for over a year, throwing ideas back and forth. Anyway, she wants to have midis on the page, and I was wondering if anyone knew a page that had good midi files, not midis that were ripped from songs. Any help would be appreciated. =)-- Dith 1|000016|Zucci7x|06-10-99|eh|gimme rants about my site ... and tell me if i'm hostable yet.-nick http://goldencow.cjb.net 3|000009|olivia|06-11-99|about jar jar|I think Jar Jar Binx is getting more heat than he deserves. People just want something bad to say about Star Wars. First the critics said he spoiled the movie, and now the tabloids say he's gay. There were points in the movie where you wondered, why the hell is he tagging along with Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan? (Like why did he need to be the navigator underwater when The Force was guiding them?) But overall, Jar Jar -had- to be in the movie to provide the link between the Gungans and the Naboo.Smartest when delirious, honest when tired, and adminstrator when board. 3|000007|olivia|06-11-99|high school shootings -- hm.|I read in the paper about a social studies professor talking to one of his classes about the Columbine shooting a day or two after it happened. One of the students inquired about pipe bombs, and the professor drew a diagram on the board explaining the components of a pipe bomb. And then he explained where in the college it would be most effective to place the bombs for maximum damage. Suffice to say, he got arrested. 4|000014|olivia|06-11-99|...help?|Did you ever get any of this resolved, Ari? 4|000014|ari|06-11-99|...help?|no. complications have arisen. he's single right now, and she keeps on after him and being all over him, so it looks like they might get together. and i guess i'll just have to be happy for them. even though i think once she actually catches him and finds out he's not her perfect dream boy, she'll get tired of him and dump him. but what do i know? they could be blissfully happy together and i do hope they are. at least if she has him she'll stop chasing everything male like it's going out of style. and i sound harsh, but i mean that. so everything would work out for the best... 4|000014|ari|06-11-99|...help?|even though... ::sigh::you know what? people say a lot of shit they don't mean. it's been a huge mistake to trust any of these people i know. yes, the relationship could be good, but why her? i want him to be happy, but why her, after she has done everything wrong? what good is a boyfriend if you had to make all the effort just to get him? what makes you so sure he'll suddenly come alive after you're together? and then there's that whole physical/sex thing. and lots of other things. but i will stop now.(i could say i'm just being selfish, and my emotions feel that way, but my logic doesn't: it could be anyone else, i don't even want it to be me anymore, i never did, it wouldn't work because of our personalities. but it would look like he's taking pity on her and using her and she would suck it up.)i'm confusing two issues here, him and her and him and me and our pseudo-friendship, and they're not really related. i'm just tired of being the only one who even remotely cares about anything. it's tiring and it's not worth it. fuck all these people who think they're my friends. this whole trust issue, among others, has gone to hell. i need to get out of here, where this won't be in my face everyday.what the heck. i don't need people. i don't even like people. especially not the ones i know.everything is wrong... 3|000009|southern gurl|06-11-99|about jar jar|You're right Olivia. Jar-Jar was kind of a silly character, but he was necessary for the plot.As for him being gay, that's stupid. The tabloids are just saying that because they have nothing better to write.Long live Star Wars! 3|000009|ari|06-11-99|about jar jar|don't forget the racist overtones...and olivia, i think qui-gon brought him along just because he's a nice jedi knight... 3|000009|StephanE|06-11-99|about jar jar|The Star Wars fanatics I know jump up and down and scream, "Jar Jar Binx RULES!"Personally, Queen Amidala rules. Actually, I don't like the Queen as much as I like Natalie Portman. 4|000013|jeffyen|06-14-99|let's be honest|I saw this once,"Everyday, people are straying from the Church, and turning towards God."Just be grateful that you're all going to heaven, even if you have never read the Bible. That's called 'unconditional love'...Glimpses ~ daily journal www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/8345 4|000013|Steve Lender|06-14-99|let's be honest|god blahblah religion blahblah.so are you afraid to die?i'm afraid of dying uselessly.i'm afraid of dying defenslessly.not because I'm afraid of death.but because I want to control the circumstances of my death. 4|000015|Steve Lender|06-14-99|ari|Ok...someone help me out here.I read ari's messages, loaded with confusion and angst, and I really wished I could contribute some help. But (and maybe i have a short attention span) I got totally lost in the jumble of circumstances...as I suspect she may have.So where was the actual problem? The root. The core.Her interest in this "cute guy" may not have been driven by hormones, as she says, but the whole thing in general appears to be fogged by 'em. 4|000015|ari|06-14-99|ari|yikes.olivia, i guess you can just ignore my email. steve - you have a point! let me try again...- i feel guilty for feeling like i'm the only person who likes this guy for something besides his looks.- i feel guilty for keeping it a secret.- i feel guilty for wanting my hormone-driven friend to back off and not ruin everything with her "crush." (literal crush, that is.)okay, there you go. 3|000010|olivia|06-14-99|Most memorable scene in a movie you've seen?|That part in the Austin Powers sequel when Dr. Evil's rocket was going into space and the scenes kept changing to cut off anyone from saying what the rocket looked like, but with the way the scenes overlapped, you got the message. I really laughed hard when the scene changed to an Asian classroom and the teacher shouted, "Wang! Pay attention!" 3|000011|olivia|06-14-99|Austin Powers (again)|So, was Ivana Humpalot the spy who shagged him? 2|000012|olivia|06-14-99|midi pages|You mean non-pop midi files?You might want to check out http://williamsholler.com/ and see if the composer there will let you use his midis. I think he will if you give him credit. 3|000011|jeff|06-14-99|Austin Powers (again)|would you believe i haven't seen the movie yet? well, not that i want to see it, anyway. hell, i haven't seen a movie in the theatres since july of 1998 when i saw saving private ryan. i'm going for the record - ONE YEAR. "Beer: Helping ugly people have sex since 1862!" 3|000011|olivia|06-14-99|Austin Powers (again)|I only see movies during the summer. :P 3|000010|ari|06-14-99|Most memorable scene in a movie you've seen?|any movie? 3|000009|meredith|06-14-99|about jar jar|Personally, there were a few things that I didn't like about Star Wars:- I didn't see why they had to reveal what "the force" was. I think that ruined a lot of my fun. But maybe without that, it would of seemed stupid about how Qui-won could of known that Anaquin was the balance.- Darth Maul wasn't that evil, he was a great fighter, but he should of been in more scenes and more essential to the plot.And the most important part- What exactly is the point of the three prequels? George Lucas can't explain the fall and redemption of Anaquin Skywalker cuz isn't Darth Vader dead? I honestly think it's fascinating how they're also doing the fall of Anaquin, but I don't see how they can redeem him. I actually liked Jar Jar. I could see how someone could find him annoying, but he was cute. And Jar Jar did make a lot of kids and adults laugh in the theater, and that's what movies are supposed to: entertain. -- Meredith 3|000009|meredith|06-14-99|about jar jar|ack, it's Qui-gon, not Qui-won. Whoops, I'm not honest when I'm tired. *smiles*-- Meredith 3|000010|meredith|06-14-99|Most memorable scene in a movie you've seen?|Hrm, Dustin Hoffman's charcter (stanley) in Wag The Dog saying, "This is nothing! Try being three months into the production of The Songs Of Solomon and finding out that you don't have the rights!" And then when the plane crashes, Anne Heche's character is having a nervous breakdown and cursing out Robert Deniro's character, and Stanley just says to her, "Enough lovemaking, let's go." Heh, I say that phrase all the time. -- Meredith 3|000010|ari|06-14-99|Most memorable scene in a movie you've seen?|the scene in "scent of a woman" where al pacino does the tango... sigh... 3|000009|olivia|06-15-99|about jar jar|Well, no Anakin isn't "redeemed" until the very end of Return of the Jedi. The three prequels are probably meant to make money. Er'! I mean, explain how Anakin broke Queen Amidala's heart, joined the dark side, and how Luke and Leia were smuggled out of Naboo (if that's where they were born).Yeah, of course Episode One could have been better. Some scenes were cut too short, before you could really get it. Obi-Wan should have shown more initial bonding with Anakin.But the movie was awesome. Great fighting, great music, and so many little things to look for! Did you see E.T. in the Jedi Council? Or Anakin's Darth Vader shadow in the desert? Or the female Yoda?My favorite character was Obi-Wan. The guy who played him did an excellent job of simulating the Obi-Wan of the original series. I liked the part where they were underwater in the little transporter thing and the giant fish were attacking them, but Obi-Wan still kept his cool. And the way he was bouncing up and down right before he was about the fight Darth Maul to avenge Qui-Gon.Awesome stuff.- Olivia 4|000015|Steve Lender|06-15-99|ari|I didn't actually expect a reply from you, ari.Thank you for being so precise. It's truly important when figuring out a problem.So, #1...Why do you feel "guilty" for liking this guy? Guilty? You may have already addressed this in the last thread, but, as I already confessed, I really got lost in all the emotion.And to address your friend...I'm in a similar situation. There's this girl that is absolutely fantastic, in every way. She's got a guy, and, though he's not bad, I don't think he is truly honorable in his intentions.I know, though, that if I wait, bide my time...be a good friend to her...that their relationship will decay, and I'll be there for her.Just given the nature of the odds, I'd bet that anything 'tween your friend and the guy will decay.I'm gonna go back and try to read thru that thred again. 4|000015|Steve Lender|06-15-99|ari|Ok...I read through the thread again.The guy sounds about as girl crazy as your friend is boy crazy.Don't you think?You mention a long line waiting for him.You mention him hooking up with and dropping an old girl/friend.You suspect he'll hook up with your ditzy friend.This is not a guy who knows how to dedicate himself to someone.Even the fact that he kinda jerks you around with love letters makes me think he's trying to keep his options open with you so that he'll have somewhere to port his boat in stormy weather.So, what do you like about him? 3|000009|Steve Lender|06-15-99|about jar jar|Star Wars kicks ass. Episode I didn't rock like I thought it would...it was different. I then had to remind myself that it would be like reading the exciting ending of a book, and then going back to read the slower, more building beginning.I can accept Jar Jar, except when he said "exsqueeze me." It's very important to me to keep my mundane life out of Star Wars.I concur with ari: Qui-gon was being a nice Jedi to bring JarJar with him. I figured he was thankful for the help and couldn't leave the goof to his punishment.And I also agree with meredith about the explanation of the force, just as everyone I talked to about does. I don't think it would be there, though, if it were not important to the "chosen one" thing...perhaps in the next movies.Last thing. I'm not fanatic enough to know this...but I just want to check with y'all. Senator Palpatine(sp?), the guy who kept telling the queen what to do, is the Emperor we all loved to hate, right? 3|000009|ari|06-15-99|about jar jar|i saw e.t.!!! i saw e.t.!!!i'll have to go back and look for the other stuff, though, olivia. that's darn cool...& am i the only person on the face of the earth who thinks qui-gon jinn is downright sexy? insert quote here 3|000009|olivia|06-15-99|about jar jar|Steve - I know, the "ex-squeeze me" thing was a little weird. Especially since he said "excuse me" normally later in the movie.Senator Palpatine IS the Emperor. He's also either the same person as Darth Sidious or a clone. 4|000015|ari|06-15-99|ari|i feel guilty because i feel somehow "better" than everyone else, that i value him more as a person (and i do value him)...and how do you & i know that anything between me and him wouldn't decay, too?um, post #2:he doesn't take that long line seriously. and the (ancient) letter did say that he's glad that i like him for something more than his "good looks."where does he hook up with & drop an old girlfriend? he's never gone out with this girl, he used to live somewhere else but he moved and she's from there, and apparently so is her boyfriend, who is still there, but my guy and this girl go to the same college with me.which brings us to our next complication:he's said that he could sit next to this girl on a couch and just talk to her and be happy for the rest of eternity. which is basically how i feel about him. ugly. one BIG reason i decided to leave this alone.and reason/complication #2:1. both of these girls are white.2. so is he.3. i'm not.*sigh*insert quote here 4|000015|ari|06-15-99|ari|dang. a whole lot of stuff i didn't see before...um, i think he'll give in to the friend because she shows him attention and does all the work trying to get him, he doesn't have to do anything. plus her pressuring, plus i think he's single, and you know how you get when you've been with someone and now suddenly you're not (well, i don't, but still...)and i've seen him around 1, maybe two of his previous girlfriends, and he acts nicer than most, i guess (about the commitment thing)...?and it was only one (LONG) letter, not really a love letter, in part of it he told me not to take it the wrong way, and then he signed it "love." call me crazy, but guys don't do that, do they??? and then things have happened AFTER this letter, like him showing up on my doorstep out of nowhere.and about the port thing, i would understand that except for the race thing - i'm not saying he's racist, but sometimes people don't see other people a certain way, and i'm not sure if he's partioned like that, or brave, or whatever. but he sure has brought it a long way so far.what i like about him? that'll be a pretty long post, and since i've already done two in a row, i'll type it up later... 4|000013|Jocelyn|06-15-99|let's be honest|Alright, I'll admit it, I was a one-time poster, but I'm back now. Looking back at the discussion, I see it's been very interesting (also meandering somewhat off-topic, but to one that's closely related). Regardless of whether or not a person is athiest, Christian, taoist, Jewish, whatever, we all have a natural fear of death, because death is something unknown. We all don't like unknown things, because changing involves effort and courage -- we like to be stuck in ruts.I find it hard to imagine what heaven will be like -- it's another unknown, a dramatic change. I mean goodness, I'm even afraid of changes in my life today, imagine the change of going to heaven! http://www.ultranet.com/~jocelyn/ 4|000015|olivia|06-16-99|ari|Ari, are there a lot of people of YOUR race in your area? I mean, are the people at your school used to diversity, or is there just a handful of non-white people?Smartest when delirious, honest when tired, and adminstrator when board. 4|000013|olivia|06-16-99|let's be honest|I can agree with the fact that people generally are afraid of what is different, but not ALL of us are afraid of the unknown. There are some people who absolutely relish in the unknown and thrive on venturing through the unknown. These would be your treasure-hunters, deep-sea divers, astronauts, archeologists, paleontologists, sci-fi fanatics, etc. 4|000015|ari|06-16-99|ari|olivia - um, in high school there was a pretty good number, but that doesn't mean they're used to diversity (it's still a small town)...first of all, i had no friends of my "race" (just seems like a stupid word! ), they really didn't like me at all. in middle school they made fun of me. and i've never felt like i was part of this "race" to begin with. ever. i didn't act like them, i didn't need them.in high school i talked to the smart kids, because i was one of them, and the "grunge" faction, because i was pretty much one of them, too, and all these people were white.i felt like there was a lot of playing, but nothing really serious - there were a lot of different "racial" friends, but they tended to be the same kind of people, "hip-hop" people, and again, i'm not. i think i've only known of one exception, maybe two, and they've both broken up. i think one girl even got bad college papers from her teachers because of it.but there's never been anything like this (i'm basically from the "smart" faction, he's basically from the "grunge" faction), which leads to another bad thing called assumption, that i'm about to kill my "friends" for here in a couple of days, which is a long ugly story, so i'll stop.good grief, these are long...insert quote here 2|000013|ari|06-16-99|(sigh)|what's the point of having a page, anyway? what's the point of doing anything when 3/4 of people will never get it? what's the point of trying when there's nothing real? why do this? why do anything at all?sorry, just had to get this off my chest...insert quote here 3|000007|Jocelyn|06-16-99|high school shootings -- hm.|Jeff, you had something great to say when you said that "spotting the flaw is the problem in our society" (sorry, I'm a little behind in my posting). Maybe we have problems spotting it, but I also think we have problems saying anything about it. We have such trouble trying to approach people and tell them what they're doing is wrong and harmful, or that there's a problem with anything.It's almost as if we still want to believe that there is no bad side to human nature. We're also too concerned with "boosting children's self-esteem" to solve any problems. A kid could get an A in a class nowadays just because a teacher was afraid it would hurt his feelings to get a D. In the same way, I think some people were afraid of approaching the parents and giving them a bad grade, because it might hurt their feelings, even if there really was a problem. http://www.ultranet.com/~jocelyn/ 2|000013|jeffyen|06-17-99|(sigh)|The point of doing it is for the 1/4 of people who DO get it. ;-) 2|000014|Clarity|06-17-99|Once More, With Emotion|Anyone who's interest can check out my new journal, http://www.midspark.net/~clarity/estoffe/Thought I should get in some shameless plug before I go offline. Hehe.Thanks! 4|000015|Steve Lender|06-17-99|ari|Your messages, ari...Yes...they are long. Perhaps Olivia has a broader perspective on the skin color issue...I'm just a white guy. From my perspective (perhaps it's not unique), I'd see no problem in being with someone not white. I don't know many people who would. I'm trying to tell you, here, that there is a good chance cuteguy doesn't care, either.I'm trying to follow you, and you really are confused, aren't you? There are small contradictions in your descriptions. Not worth noting in detail, but it all gives me the impression that you are dragging your feet in going after this guy.Ya think? 4|000013|Steve Lender|06-17-99|let's be honest|ah yes...sense of adventure. problem is, most people like to return from an adventure...we all can wait to take the last big adventure, eh?Actually, I've noticed that people love to explore the unknown...hence this very topic. From what I see, people often like change, whether they admit it or not.It's in our psychology to fear death. It helps keep us alive so that we may procreate. Fear is a chemical reaction. A simple mechanism to help us escape fatal circumstances. But we can't actually escape death, can we? Eventually, the ol' grim reaper is coming for us. You can engage any mechanism you want...you will die. Eventually.This is why I contend that it's not fear of change but fear of inevitable loss of control on the situation. 2|000013|Steve Lender|06-17-99|(sigh)|How about revelation in one's self?Achieving personal clarity. 2|000013|Steve Lender|06-17-99|(sigh)|ari...I can't help but notice that you are SERIOUSLY uptight with the stress of angst.I recomend a warm bath, a cold beer, a fresh smoke and someone sucking on your toes. 2|000014|olivia|06-17-99|Once More, With Emotion|Can I link to your new address? 2|000014|ari|06-17-99|Once More, With Emotion|offline? why?insert quote here 2|000013|ari|06-17-99|(sigh)|thanks, you guys, seriously...& steve, you really know how to make my day. insert quote here 3|000012|olivia|06-17-99|Marilyn Manson|I read an interesting quote from Marilyn Manson that basically said art (including music) is a way some people choose to release their anger, rather than through violence. Then he said Cain killed Abel before violence in the media existed.What do YOU think? 2|000014|olivia|06-17-99|Once More, With Emotion|Ari, I think she meant she was signing off for the day. *L* 4|000015|ari|06-17-99|ari|no, steve, tell me my contradictions...it's not like i can see them, you know. there's just so many things that can go wrong, thinking about the whole thing gives me a headache. but the main thing is, if one day i do become his "girlfriend," etc., then one day i'll also be his EX-girlfriend. and he used to be too much of a good friend for me to push things like that. so i'll just leave it alone, & try to get him out of my head, even though he still needs to call me. slacker.insert quote here 3|000012|jeff|06-17-99|Marilyn Manson|i somewhat agree with him, but sometimes, music releases once anger through violence...did that make sense?"Beer: Helping ugly people have sex since 1862!" 3|000012|jeff|06-17-99|Marilyn Manson|once= one's.sorry! 2|000014|ari|06-17-99|Once More, With Emotion|psh. thanks olivia, i'm such a goof...insert quote here 3|000004|olivia|06-18-99|Favorite and least favorite commercial?|I hate, hate, HATE that new Mugs Rootbeer commercial. You know, with the pregnant lady who's got her husband rubbing her belly, and suddenly she starts having convulsions and it looks like an alien is about to pop out of stomach. Then you hear the baby squealing, "I love my mug!" 3|000012|Lisa|06-18-99|Marilyn Manson|Music does influence a person but I don't think turns your average Joe into Joe the chainsaw massacre-ist. Violence in the media isn't a new thing, simply because it's part of human nature. I bet when some of the ancient Greek Plays such as antigone came out, a few guys in togas were pronouncing that this would be the end of society! Denying that there's a darker side to human nature doesn't make it go away. Dealing with it is the only way to go and music helps you do that. I've haven't listened to much of MM's music, but since he's struck a chord with so many fans, it's probable that there is some truth to what he's saying. I just think that while it's easy to take a few lyrics out of context, it's more difficult to understand the bigger picture.Alright. I've written too much. I should be studying...lalala.. 3|000010|Lisa|06-18-99|Most memorable scene in a movie you've seen?|Ari I love that scene too. Al Pacino and that music - wow wow wow. A few memorable scenes for me are the horsehead scene in The Godfather, the final scene in The Usual Suspects (I can't specify what it is because I'd reveal the ending), the scene in GWTW when Rhett takes Scarlett up the staircase and oh and the final scene of course. I also liked the scene in Psycho... not the shower one, but the one which shows the twist in the plot.. that knocked the breath out of me, and I also liked the scene in Bridges of Madison County when Robert Kincaid is in the car in front of her, and she is sitting there, clenching the door handle, wishing she would run off with him. 3|000010|ari|06-18-99|Most memorable scene in a movie you've seen?|usual suspects! usual suspects! that scene is the whole reason we love kevin spacey. and how...(i wish i could be a blind man's conquest...sigh... )insert quote here 1|000013|suz|06-18-99|the impending demise of midspark|i thought communitech came with unlimited ubbs?i luff dust 1|000015|Jocelyn|06-18-99|Midspark board|I've actually felt more intimidated by larger boards, because there are so many people out there, I wonder if what I have to say is worth saying.Speaking of small boards, my board has recently become very very sluggish -- no one seems to go there any more. I find it quite annoying, and almost like a rejection of my own site. Arrrgh.I guess I'm just not a good moderator. I think I scared everyone off, because people I knew in real life came to my boards. I think that's one disadvantage of the small boards, as someone said before -- you can intimidate the people who feel like they're interfering... sort of. http://www.ultranet.com/~jocelyn/ 2|000013|Jocelyn|06-18-99|(sigh)|Sometimes I get frustrated with my page like that. You wonder why you do it, and it gets so annoying because nothing seems to get you anywhere. At times it seems like one big popularity contest, and that's a really big awful feeling -- thinking your page isn't "good enough".Steve has good advice though... http://www.ultranet.com/~jocelyn/ 3|000013|meredith|06-20-99|People asking for your advice|Does is annoy you, or make you feel like your helping someone out? Personally, I get annoyed. I'm all for letting people voice out their concerns, but come on, people should know what's best for them without turning to someone else. 3|000013|ari|06-20-99|People asking for your advice|seriously annoyed. you give them your advice & then they say "yeah, but..." then they don't take your advice at all, but go do whatever they were going to do in the first place. it's good that they talk it out & bounce it off someone, but all they really want is for someone to give them a go-ahead.grrr.insert quote here 2|000013|ari|06-20-99|(sigh)|(very off-topic)is this an ugly color?#cccc00insert quote here 3|000013|olivia|06-20-99|People asking for your advice|Maybe people just like to know that there are people who care enough to give advice. 3|000013|southern gurl|06-21-99|People asking for your advice|I like it when people ask my advice. I feel like they respect my opinion and appreciate what I think. Of course, somtimes they don't agree and don't take and use the advice you gave them, but who said they had to? 3|000013|Claire|06-21-99|People asking for your advice|It really depends who it is... I have very few friends, and I'm very close to the ones i do have. They look up to me and I know that, as southern girl said, they respect my opinions. I, on the other hand, tend to ask advice (or, really, I guess I'm usually talking to myself outloud) about stupid, trivial things... like what I should wear. But, that's not really what this topic is about. (c: I like helping people... but I wouldn't give just anyone advice because I would feel like I was butting in if I didn't know the person very well... because it really wouldn't be any of my business. http://www.northcoast.com/~mtaylor/ 4|000015|Steve Lender|06-21-99|ari|Good luck, ari.You are too close to the situation,and I'm too far. 2|000013|Steve Lender|06-21-99|(sigh)|How can a color be ugly without an application, or even a contrast?cccc00 is a not-quite-sunshine yellow. by itself, it's nothing. combine it with a couple more colors, it could be really ugly.yellow with red text is a bitch to read. red with yellow text, though, isn't too bad. yellow with dark blue text is cool, imo. 3|000013|meredith|06-21-99|People asking for your advice|Liv,That's a good point. I don't know, I'm willing to listen to people talking about thier problems, but I just hate giving advice because I'm not in thier situation, and while I can hear what's it like, I just can't figure out the right thing to say. I guess I dislike it because I never know what to say exactly, but I'm always afraid of my advice making the situation worse. 3|000013|olivia|06-21-99|People asking for your advice|Meredith - Yeah, that's why rather than tell a person what to do, I try to help the person decide for him/herself what to do. 3|000014|jeff|06-21-99|these web cliques are irritating me...|Can anyone tell me why people create these so-called cliques? Is it to feel wanted or something like that? Plus, they make the dumbest clique names in the world. I would mention a few, but I dare not to. I'm not much of an offender... most of the time.Jeff"Beer: Helping ugly people have sex since 1862!" 3|000014|olivia|06-21-99|these web cliques are irritating me...|Boredom, I guess. 3|000014|ari|06-21-99|these web cliques are irritating me...|attention + power = danger! & i like your sig, jeff...insert quote here 4|000015|ari|06-21-99|ari| *cry*why does life have to be so fucking unfair???????insert quote here 4|000015|olivia|06-22-99|ari|Well, wouldn't it be boring if it wasn't? 4|000015|olivia|06-22-99|ari|Cheer up, Ari. You're gaining more than you probably think you are from this experience. 4|000015|ari|06-22-99|ari|yeah, i'm gaining a lot of bitter resentment, repressed anger, helplessness, fear, loneliness, and guilt. nothing's gone my way for as long as i can remember and even when it seemed to, there were always hidden thorns that didn't come out until a week later. i'm so tired of this. i'm tired of everything. i don't mean to take this out on you, but everything really sucks. period.insert quote here 4|000013|penguinette|06-22-99|let's be honest|I'm have absolutely no fear of death (but I'm starting to think I should!). I'm agnostic, I guess. I think...and hope...that when I die, I will rot. underground. I don't care HOW great heaven is...after I'm done living THIS life, I want to die. I don't want to be reincarnated either, even though I vaguely believe in it. If my life is unfulfilled, so be it. *I* won't know about it. It's not going to make a big dent in the world if I die. It's not like I *want* to die...I just don't think it will be that big of a deal. My only request is that I die laughing I don't understand (in the Christian religion) how Hell works. I mean, I don't get why, if God is all-powerful, he would *make* a hell, let alone send people to it? If he is all-forgiving, why does he want people (people that he *loves*) to go there just because they used the brains he gave them to question Christianity?oh yeah, and has anyone heard of Unitarian Universalism? That's the church I go to-I was just wondering if it's as unknown to most people as it is in my town 3|000015|olivia|06-22-99|Sexy?|Which singers do you think have the sexiest voices?For the guys: Kevin from the Backstreet Boys, the Gin Blossoms singer, and the Metallica singer. (I'm not good at remembering names.)For the girls: Shirley Manson. 3|000015|ari|06-22-99|Sexy?|metallica = james hetfield.and kevin is my backstreet boy! ok, i'll stop being silly now.maynard james keenan (tool) and trent reznor have some sexy stuff...trust me. 3|000015|olivia|06-22-99|Sexy?|Dolores (sp?) of the Cranberries is a good singer, too. Her voice itself isn't that snazzy, but she can do so much with it that it's amazing. 3|000015|ari|06-23-99|Sexy?|bjork! bjork is cool stuff.trust me. 3|000015|spitfire|06-23-99|Sexy?|I'm not sure if they're "sexy" but I'd love for them to serenade me once in awhile: Kevin Griffin of Better Than Ezra. Dave Matthews. Eddie Vedder. Glen Phillips of Toad the Wet Sprocket. 3|000015|southern gurl|06-23-99|Sexy?|I have to agree with Spitfire. Kevin Griffin(BTE) can come sing to me anytime!Also, Bryan Adams. Man, his voice is too sexy! 3|000014|Steve Lender|06-23-99|these web cliques are irritating me...|Validation.The pack mentality.Flying a flag gives people a reason to be.----------Wine: Helping ugly people have sex since 4012 BC. 3|000015|Steve Lender|06-23-99|Sexy?|I can't remember her name...the singer for the now defunct bandFour Non-Blondes.Damn...her voice had strength.If she has sex like she singsit would be fatal to the lucky guy. 3|000015|olivia|06-23-99|Sexy?|*LMAO* 1|000017|olivia|06-23-99|midspark.net|There's stuff on the actual domain. Take a look. 1|000017|olivia|06-23-99|midspark.net|I have a weird way of doing things, because I'm not going to link to this UBB on the main directory of the domain. 2|000015|Cadenza|06-23-99|new layout! need opinions! |please go to my site and check out my new layout! www.angelfire.com/ct/zany please tell me what you think by emailing me or leaving a note in the guestbook! thanks again!________Alexandra _____________ www.angelfire.com/ct/zany 3|000015|Steve Lender|06-23-99|Sexy?|I felt I should contribute a male vocalist who I thought had a sexy voice, but that's a rather difficult one.I did, eventually, come up with Danny Elfman. Now *there* is some undeniable tallent. 4|000013|shannon s.|06-23-99|let's be honest|Am I afraid of dying? No. And why is that? I'm not sure. I've never really been afraid of death. And for me, it had nothing to do with faith. When I was young, I had strong faith in the Christian religion. Of course, that is easy to do when you are so young and do not question things that so many people tell you to believe. Then I grew up. I started realizing that there were too many contridictions in the faith. Catholicism had even more. I have also seen, that even the people of the highest of ranks in a Christian religion or otherwise are the most afraid to die. That too is a contridiction. They rant and rave about how loving their god is, yet they are afraid that he won't accept them. This has caused a problem for me to accept that faith, though I have no problem with other people having it as long as they are happy with it. A religion should not cause doubts. A person should always question the why's and how's of life, but if there is no answer, then that's where faith comes in. And Clarity, dear, I'm sorry, but I do not believe that you can be Catholic by birth. Just because you were born into it, doesn't mean a thing, especially not to their 'god.' So, then, what is this religion that gives me this faith to not fear death or dying? It consists of beliefs of many different ones and is called The Order of Three. But I'm sure that not one of you have ever heard of it, besides perhaps Clarity. I also understand that in some churches it is believed that if you know of the Christian/Catholic religion and you turn it away, that is a sin and you will go to hell. I will not go to hell. If I don't believe in their god, how is it that I can go to their hell? Hell, I think, is only a word used to scare 'god's people' and heaven is used as an inscintive to do his will. I believe in your own personal will. Things, all things, are what you make of it. I wasn't expecting this reply to take so long, but I guess I just had a lot to say. Anyone who has a strong faith in ANYTHING, even if it is only themselves, then you are truly blessed. It takes no god to be happy, though sometimes it helps. 4|000013|olivia|06-23-99|let's be honest|Shannon - I agree with your reasoning.Smartest when delirious, honest when tired, and adminstrator when board. 4|000013|darcy|06-26-99|let's be honest|I'm a bit scared of dying in some painful way, but actually dying doesn't bother me much. What bothers me (and what I think the original quesiton was actually referring to) is actually being dead. I'd like to think that something happens to us after we die. I'm agnostic, and I've got more of a devotion to science than anything else, but science has never answered the question of why emotions exist. I've always found it hard to accept that the human soul is nothing more than the result of genetics and chemical reactions. Einstein theorized once that if humans ever used 100% of our brains (as opposed to the approximate 10% we use now), then we'd become pure energy and wouldn't need our bodies anymore. That's such a lovely thought. Non-coporeal life-forms... I think there was a Star Trek episode about that once. heh...I guess when it comes down to it, what I'm really afraid of is that I'll die and go wherever it is we go, and I'll find out that I've been wrong all my life about everything I believe. That's a really terrifying thought. 3|000015|darcy|06-26-99|Sexy?|Okay I agree with spitfire and southern gurl - Kevin Griffin and Bryan Adams. Um, yes please. =D 3|000015|Andrew Sione Taumoefolau|06-26-99|Sexy?|Female - Kristen Hersh, no doubt. I go weak at the knees every time I hear her sing.Male - Mel Torme or Chet Baker. Old-school flavour . 3|000015|StephanE|06-26-99|Sexy?|Damon Albarn from Blur. There's more to him than just "Song 2" that everybody knows. 3|000015|jeffyen|06-27-99|Sexy?|I would pick Carreras. For actors, Captain Jean Luc Picard. 3|000011|rebecca|06-27-99|Austin Powers (again)|Yeah, I think it was. Ivana, I mean. She was rather.. icky, though. 3|000016|jeff|06-27-99|lalalala.|I'm extremely bored right now. What do you think is that best way to occupy boredom? 3|000016|Claire|06-27-99|lalalala.|I *wish* I knew of better ways to fight off boredom... My friends and I used to go on IRC and mess with people. One of my friends chatted with someone the other day when she was bored and pretended she collected nut shells or something... she's "just nuts about nuts! lol" (c: http://www.northcoast.com/~mtaylor/ 3|000016|Steve Lender|06-28-99|lalalala.|Matsturbation. It kills several minutes, and afterwards, I find, there is a total change of mentality...one that usually makes me go do something productive. 4|000013|Steve Lender|06-28-99|let's be honest|As far as Fear of Being Dead goes, how could it be any worse than being alive? Granting that there may be a hell, how could it differ so greatly from the hell we already deal with on a daily basis?We live under the constant, low grade fear of being instantly eradicated by some frightful accident. We see almost everywhere some person who feels that a certain race of people should be extinguished. At every turn, there is some righteous bastard who thinks they can change our lives for the better by removing our fundamental rights. We watch our friends and family fade into illness, and watch as they are snuffed out, leaving us to mourn their loss. We work hard, always with the haunting doubt that it may not even be worth it. Either the globe is warming, or it's cooling. If they're not telling us how polluted the earth is, they're dumping pollution into it. There are so many differences in opinion that we constantly feel that nothing is ever progressing. There are pedophiles in our churches and schools. There are both lazy fatasses and self-serving nazis with agendas in our nation's positions of power. Lawyers are making the whole legal system a joke...a hundred thousand loop holes to make a quick buck. A fucking cup of coffee costs $4.50.What more could I possibly fear? Burning in "hell?" whoopty-fuckin'-doo. 3|000016|jeff|06-28-99|lalalala.|I hate IRC. I used to go there all the time and pretend to be someone I'm not. I messed with people's heads and stuff. What's masturbation? 4|000013|Lisa|06-29-99|let's be honest|LOL Steve, you said it. That was REALLY good.I've been reading this thread for awhile now, but now I'll finally add my thoughts (oh no). My position on the whole dying business is similar to that of Darcy's. The idea of 'being dead' doesn't scare me, but the possibility of a painful death does. Nothing beats physical pain, and I hope that if I was in severe pain and had no hope of recovery, someone would be kind enough to put me down.As for the afterlife, who knows. I hope it's good anyway. Oh, and just something else, I would like my funeral to be celebration of sorts. Not a "YES, she's dead" type of funeral, but something along the lines of "Yes, she's dead, and let's have some fun .. in her honour". There used to be an ad on tv which had a guy saying: "at my funeral, I want the beatles singing help! over my grave." I thought that was funny. Isn't it weird how funeral has the word fun in it. 4|000013|southern gurl|06-29-99|let's be honest|I don't see how anyone can make light of dying. My Grandfather just died last week and his funeral was anything but funny. Lisa - That's great you want your funeral to be a celebration, but I doubt it'll happen. It is part of being a human to be upset when someone dies. The people you leave behind will be upset (hopefully!) when you die. I hardly think they'll feel like celebrating.Maybe I'm just in a sensitive mood. I do know I miss my Grandfather and I sure want him back. 4|000013|Steve Lender|06-29-99|let's be honest|People find different ways to cope with the death situation. Many are overcome with grief and sorrow. A few, like me, consider it to be a checkered flag. Like the dropping of a tremendous bundle, and feeling only relief.But I must agree...painful death would be a drag. Not only for the pain, but for the loss of dignity in succumbing to pain.southern gurl...sorry to hear of your loss. Aren't you one of the more religious denizens of the Spark Pubb? Are you not happy for your grandfather? He get's to see the glory of heaven. For all of it's descriptions, I'd think you would be almost jealous of his getting to see the splendor of the afterlife. 4|000013|Steve Lender|06-29-99|let's be honest|While on the topic of death, I found myself thinking back to my days of working as a flower delivery guy, and of all the funerals I'd serviced.The old people, snuggled up in their caskets, didn't really bug me. You could look at the map on their face and tell what kind of life they'd led, and how they'd felt about it. It appeared natural to me to see an old old person dead.If you ever find yourself delivering a casket piece to a funeral, you must try this. While you're setting the piece on top of an open casket, bump and rock the casket with your waste and watch the body move. It's one of those weird things that makes your brain swim.And don't miss out on an opportunity to pin a wrist corsage to a corpse's wrist.I wasn't really freaked out until I saw the 17 year old girl. There was just the faintest hing of a map on her face. She hadn't done anything in life yet. She wasn't around long enough to have formed an opinion about how her life had went. I didn't rock her casket.As morbid and callous as I can be, I had to sit down after seeing the baby in its casket. There was absolutely no sign of wear on its face. No time spent in the sun, or the cold, or the rain. There was no map. If she wasn't in a box, I'd have thought she was asleep.After that, I'd figured death was far too serious to not make light of. It's so serious and sober that it could consume me and make my life a constant run of fear.To conteract this, I rock caskets. 4|000013|Lisa|06-29-99|let's be honest|southern gurl - I'm sorry to hear of your grandfather's death. As for me saying death was funny, well I said "my death" would be funny and nothing more. Luckily, I haven't lost anyone close to me yet but the time will come we'll see how I react. Anyway, you have my condolences.About 'happy funerals', I think they exist in Ireland, or is this just another fairytale? I think they drink a lot of Guiness and do a lot of reminscing. In my opinion, I don't think it's disrespectful to the dead, if anything I think it gives a feeling of 'rebirth' rather than 'this is the end, and one day you'll be in this casket'. 4|000013|spitfire|06-29-99|let's be honest|My parents are Buddhists and when someone dies, the time after cremation is often "celebratory" since it's thought that the deceased person is in a better place now. I know in New Orleans, many funerals begin with brass bands and the second line, very lively and upbeat, I guess to celebrate passing onto a better life beyond this earth. 4|000013|shannon s.|06-29-99|let's be honest|If you don't make light of death, then what's the use for funerals? In fact, what's the use in living? I know funerals are for the dead and all, but I agree in saying that they should be a celebration. Not of dying, but continuing. Southern Gurl, you believe in heaven, right? My heaven is different than yours, but we'll use yours for example since most people are familiar with it. A grandfather's death. Sad, but nonetheless, your life goes on. You attend a funeral. For YOU, not him, he's dead. No offense or anything. He goes to heaven, whatever that may be to you. I'm sure you picture it as perfect. Yet that is not the light of death? Call me confused, but I think that's a pretty darn bright light in death. Dying is a pretty interesting subject, obviously (look at all the posts). So many people wonder about it and talk about it because it's still a mystery to the living. And it's good to question. But if it becomes worrysome and depressing, then there's something wrong. Life is a great adventure, but death is the adventure that you always have left; the last adventure as we know it. But I think that it shall be a great adventure indeed. So good luck to you all on this grand escapade! 4|000013|olivia|06-29-99|let's be honest|I think a funeral is meant to honor a person's passing. Different cultures have different ways of showing this honor.I've never had to attend a funeral, but if I ever do, it would be a personal way of saying good-bye. 4|000013|southern gurl|06-30-99|let's be honest|I KNOW he's better off up there, but I've had him for 19 years and I miss him. Isn't that natural?I like Olivia see a funeral as saying goodbye. I didn't mean to offend anyone as far as how other cultures say goodbye. Sorry. I guess I wasn't thinking. When you're so use to the "your" way of doing things its hard to remember there other ways too. 4|000013|Steve Lender|06-30-99|let's be honest|Funerals are definitely for the living. It's supposed to help give closure. "The Goodbye," as someone already mentioned.A friend of my family's died a couple years ago. I didn't go see him when he was sick, and I didn't go to his funeral. Selfishly, I didn't want to feel the pain. As a result, to my mind, he's not really dead, and I remember him last as being healthy. I just haven't seen him in quite a while. 3|000014|Skye|07-03-99|these web cliques are irritating me...|Web cliques could be a clever way to get more traffic for your site. What I did not account for was the gullibility of the teeming masses. 3|000014|Skye|07-03-99|these web cliques are irritating me...|Web cliques could be a clever way to get more traffic for your site. What I did not account for was the gullibility of the teeming masses. 3|000015|Skye|07-03-99|Sexy?|The Cure's Robert Smith's sexy voice sends shivers down my spine. He makes everything seems so ethereal. 3|000009|renee|07-03-99|about jar jar|I didn't find anything wrong with Jar², actually. He was rather cute. The kind of person that you could muck around with. Y'know, like, maybe steal fruit or something with. He was probably the comic relief character, since R2D2 and C3PO weren't supposed to really have developed characters in this movie.And about the prequels thing... The entire Star Wars series is based on a series of books. There are nine in total, three sets of three. The three movies that came out first were the second set of three. I haven't read the books, my my SO has and he was filling me in on it while we were watching the first 3 movies.Oh, and yeah, I agree with ari... Qui-Gon is damn sexy. Liam Neeson, man. Classic. Kinda like Sean Connery. But... well, they're fossils, I'm afraid.*hugsie* 3|000007|renee|07-03-99|high school shootings -- hm.|There are always gonna be troubled kids. Maybe the only way to stop things like this from happening is not provoking them by throwing things at them, calling them names, being asses to them and so forth...*hugsie* 3|000004|renee|07-03-99|Favorite and least favorite commercial?|There's this one for tissues that has a duckling in it... Soft spot for ducklings. ^_^*hugsie* 3|000012|renee|07-03-99|Marilyn Manson|Konrad Lorenz has this theory of animal aggression. He says that aggression has to be expressed in means other than violence so as not to destroy the species.It is the idea that we humans exhaust some of our aggression through things such as this angry art, as well as sport, everyday rituals (such as guys giving their friendly punches, jokes, bitchy comments, etc.), violent video games and so forth.With all that "violence in the media is bad", blah blah blah... Well, someone should tell all of those stuffy conservatives that the aggression has to come out one way or another. Take away our Doom and Street Fighter, and all that aggressive energy may come spilling out in some less-desirable way.*hugsie* 3|000010|renee|07-03-99|Most memorable scene in a movie you've seen?|Right now, it's probably either "Austin Powers 2"... A mate and I are always quoting from it... Or it's "Bulletproof"..."Maybe not now, but when you're asleep, I'm gonna piss all over you. I'll get horses, cows... I'm gonna get a whole farm to piss on you..."*hugsie* 3|000013|renee|07-03-99|People asking for your advice|I get approached for advice quite a bit. And even when not asked, I give it as a suggestion. Dunno why people even bother to listen. I give crappy advice. :P*hugsie* 3|000011|renee|07-03-99|Austin Powers (again)|That's Sally from 3rd Rock, man! ^_^ Did they actually shag? Wasn't the thing with the stuff gone before they could?*hugsie* 3|000016|renee|07-03-99|lalalala.|You could try taking things apart and then putting them back together and seeing if they work...?*hugsie* 3|000014|renee|07-03-99|these web cliques are irritating me...|Probably to take up space on otherwise empty websites.ORJust because it's there and they can.*hugsie* 3|000015|renee|07-03-99|Sexy?|I'm sorry to bring this up, but... Isaac Hanson... He's got this nice resonance about his voice. Not quite man, not quite boy... Girl!I'll probably get crucified for that one.But yeah, he's got a pleasant sounding voice. And Rich from 5ive as well. Yes, I know I'm naming teenie groups, but *shrug* nice voices can be anywhere...For females, I'd say Monica or Faye Wong... Rather nice. And if you wanna go for the cute-type voices, then Hayashibara Megumi is pretty good.*hugsie* 4|000013|renee|07-03-99|let's be honest|Death... I never used to fear it. Just like that quote, "You aren't ready to live, until you're ready to die." I guess not fearing Death is the only way that things can happen.But I fear it now only because the thought of not being with the person I love scares me. Just the thought of us not being together as we are now makes me want to die. I don't know if you'd call it love or obsessive-psychosis, but I fear either one of us dying, or someone I care about dying because not being with that person removes some part of that which made life as sweet as it is.That's the trouble with being utterly happy with life. If something falls, it all comes tumbling down.But I guess, as with everything, if you lose something, something else is gained to maintain the balance. Only, I'm too happy right now to want to be moved from the present.*hugsie* 3|000011|olivia|07-03-99|Austin Powers (again)|I think they were shagging, but Austin stopped in the middle of it because his mojo was gone. *L* 3|000010|Skye|07-03-99|Most memorable scene in a movie you've seen?|That scene from "A Few Good Men" where Jack Nicholson screamed from the stand, "You're goddamn right I did!" You're goddamn right I did! 3|000010|Skye|07-03-99|Most memorable scene in a movie you've seen?|Then there's Ace Ventura muttering, "Theeeeeeerrrrrrrre's someone on the wiiiiiiinnnnnnnngggggggsssssss... sooooooomethiiiiiiinnnnnnnnggggggg..."I walked around mumbling that line to people for days after. The cute waiter at a local cafe asks what I want. I mumbled, "There's someone on the wings... something...""Huh?"Loved that incredulous expression on his face. 4|000016|Moo|07-05-99|i'm kinda late but...|Happy 4th of July folks!Sarahbad cop! no donut! 3|000009|Queen Amidala|07-06-99|about jar jar|First of all, I'd like to recommend that you all read the book. The book is much better than the movie was. Second of all, I really think that Jar Jar was the charactor that made the movie worth watching. He was the comic relief to the movie, without him the movie would have been very boring and very bland. Not only that, but he's a charactor that some of the younger viewers could relate to. In very many ways Jar Jar was like a little curious kid. I can understand how someone might think he was annoying, but he was a very very good charactor to have in the movie. Episode One wasn't as great as it was cracked up to be, and I think it's ridiculous how some people have gone to see the movie over and over. Still, I just might buy the video when it comes out. NikkiNikki"Space is not remote at all. It's only about an hour's drive if you could drive your car upwards." http://truth.bleach.org 3|000004|Queen Amidala|07-06-99|Favorite and least favorite commercial?|One of my favorite commercials is this US Celluar commercial for digital phones and there's this little who lookes about 6 or 7 (but i think he's like 8 or 9) kid (I think he was in My Favorite Martian or something like that) who's sitting there playing a video game and telling his father why he needs a digital phone and then his father tells him to go to bed and he says alright and goes up stairs and his father is playing with the remote to the TV and mutters under his breath "how do you get the child lock off" and the kid yells from upstairs "Press 1 ..." and then there were these other instructions. It was really cute. Of course, I'm biased to think so. My brother works at US Cellular. I also think that another US Cellular commercial was cute... it was to tell that they changed their name from United States Cellular to US Celular and they changed the logo and it has this little girl going to the meeting about the new logo with her dad and he tells her to be really quiet and all these people are dissussing the logo change and she's drawing away and then she holds up this picture of this star thing which is the logo and some guy says, "can she consult after school?"As for a commercial I hate, I really hated the commercial for Hineiken Beer with Mike Myers in it as Austin Powers and this lady's giving him a back massage and he asks her what she's doing and she says, "Oh, I'm just admiring your Hiney" and she's looking at the beer. And I also think the commercial for Fig Newtons is pretty dumb too cause it has the lady who plays Elizabeth on Keeping Up Apperences (it's a Bristish sitcom) and she's eating Fig Newtons on a park bench and she puts them in her purse gets up and starts walking and then there's water spewing out the side of her purse.Nikki"Space is not remote at all. It's only about an hour's drive if you could drive your car upwards." http://truth.bleach.org 3|000015|Queen Amidala|07-06-99|Sexy?|Personally, I think Ricky Martin has quite the sexy voice. Yum.Nikki"Space is not remote at all. It's only about an hour's drive if you could drive your car upwards." http://truth.bleach.org 4|000004|Queen Amidala|07-06-99|Guys are shitty|No, I don't think guys are assholes at all. But I've cut it down to one thing that they are though. They're fickle. If you know me, chances are you've heard me go through my little guys are fickle speel. So, if you want you can skip over this post cause you already know what I have to say. Guys are fickle. My best friend Matt's mom Cindy told me that. They (They meaning guys Us being the grrls) don't act like us, they don't think like us. It doesn't make them bad, it just means that they're different. There are mean guys, nice guys, stupid guys, smart guys, etc. There's no way you can deny that. Of course, the nice ones are hard to find sometimes... but you have to look. But ulimately, what comes down to, is that everyone acts like an idiot sometimes and does things they really don't mean... So really... I don't think guys are assholes.Nikki"Space is not remote at all. It's only about an hour's drive if you could drive your car upwards." http://truth.bleach.org 2|000016|Steve Lender|07-06-99|Howz thuh INterNEt werk?|Alright, I need some help. I'm missing some pretty large pieces to the whole puzzle that is the internet.My list of stupid questions.1. I have an ISP. I hook to this isp via telephone and modem. to what is my isp hooked to?2. somewhat related, if i wanted to hook up my own server, to what do I hook it? certainly not a phone line, right?3. a domain is either a server, or a part of a server, allocated for your use, right? does that server provide you with functions like user/password restrictions?4. stuff like ftp and telnet are determined by the server? the software? eh?thanks in advance for any help.and shudup, in advance, for those who're laughing at me. 3|000014|Queen Amidala|07-06-99|these web cliques are irritating me...|Lack of anything else better to do I suppose. I really should rename my site Lack of Anything Else Better to Do because really... I have a lack of anything else better to do with my time. Nikki"Space is not remote at all. It's only about an hour's drive if you could drive your car upwards." http://truth.bleach.org 4|000013|Queen Amidala|07-06-99|let's be honest|I don't fear death. What I do fear though is leaving those I love back on earth. I honestly can't tell you what I believe about afterlife because I don't know. I don't know what I believe and what I don't. What I do know though is religion is a nearly painful thing for me to talk about. I go to a Catholic school. I'm not Catholic and neither is my family. It's not even a requirement to be Catholic to go to this school. I'm going to it simply because it's a good school and despite it's drug problem, it's a much better school than any of the areas public ones. One of the hardest things about going to my school is people are always asking about what religion you are. It's very hard to say that you don't know. And it's also hard for me because everytime we have school mass I get this sicking jealous feeling. Jealous of the people that grew up knowing what they believed. Jealous of the people who may not of grew up knowing what they believed, but came to grasp with what they believed. But, if there's one thing that I can say right now that I know for sure is that faith-wise, you have to follow your own path. Nikki"Space is not remote at all. It's only about an hour's drive if you could drive your car upwards." http://truth.bleach.org 3|000015|southern gurl|07-06-99|Sexy?|UhHuh. And a very sexy body. Woohoo =) 4|000004|southern gurl|07-06-99|Guys are shitty|Everyone can be be a pain the butt at one point or another. As for the "doing stuff" thing, girls can be a pain about that just quick as guys can. Sure, guys do tend to be stuck with the "I love sex" sign, but women like it too, otherwide they WOULD NOT do it.This topic could go on forever...... 3|000015|Queen Amidala|07-06-99|Sexy?|not to mention a very very smoochable face. 4|000004|Steve Lender|07-06-99|Guys are shitty|Fickle?? Just exactly what do you mean by fickle? You went on to say that both men and women can be it, but I'm not sure you know what it means.Let me go on to say, that in general, men are as far away from fickle as can be.I can tolerate "boneheaded" and "simple" and "neaderthalic." Never will I accept fickle. 2|000016|jeffyen|07-07-99|Howz thuh INterNEt werk?|1)your isp is hooked onto this huge bandwagon of interconnected networks. I think.2)Yes, you'll try to hook it onto your phone line, though I've tried unsuccessfully to hook it to my shortwave radio. It's best to rent an ISDN line from your phone company first, I think.3)You can either do everything yourself, ie rent a fast tel line, buy a server, and a couple of technical manuals which describe internet technologies in greater detail, or you can pay someone to host your site for you. The domain name is just an identification name, it's like a normal telephone number. No 2 telephones on the same network should have the same telephone number. ftp and password stuff are all part of the whole hosting package.4)stuff like that would already be self-explanatory if you indeed can set up your own server.Glimpses ~ daily journal www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/8345 2|000016|Steve Lender|07-07-99|Howz thuh INterNEt werk?|Ok...I get that an ISP is connected to a (the) network. But how?See...I kinda understand LANs. Ethernet lines run all over my office to a hub. And I know that that hub is connected to at least one other hub before it gets to the firewall.I kinda figure that the firewall is similar to an ISP in the way that it connects a computer (a bunch of computers) to the internet. But how? At some point, is there some other kind of hub that spreads out from there?And I understand the whole Domain Name Server thing. That's no big deal, really.But, say I wanted to run a site that is password protected. Is that function provided by the server that my site is on? If it is, is it part of the server software, or is it some kind of CGI? Or, um, both? Neither?And, for what it's worth, I've just recently heard of a shortwave radio connection sending Real Media files.ug. 4|000004|Queen Amidala|07-07-99|Guys are shitty|Steve,What I believe I had meant to say that it depends on your prospective. To me, guys may be fickle... you you girls may be fickle. That's what I had meant... Unfortunatly, I'm not very good at saying exactly what i mean at times.Nikki"Space is not remote at all. It's only about an hour's drive if you could drive your car upwards." http://truth.bleach.org 4|000017|Queen Amidala|07-07-99|Dealing with Criticism. |I have a question, how do all of you deal with criticism. I have a very hard time dealing with criticism most of the time, mostly because I have a tendancy to take it as a personal attack, and either get exceptionally defensive, or I end up in tears and exctremely upset. If any of you have any tips or pointers on how I can deal with my problem, they'd be greatly apperciated!Nikki"Space is not remote at all. It's only about an hour's drive if you could drive your car upwards." http://truth.bleach.org 2|000016|olivia|07-07-99|Howz thuh INterNEt werk?|Steve - A firewall works as a network security function. I guess you could say it connects computers to the Internet, since it usually stands between computers and the Internet, but a firewall doesn't provide a real Internet connection (like an ISP), where you could just dial-up a number and instantly connect to the web. Firewalls are designed to block unauthorized users from passing through.If you're that curious, maybe you should study the topology of your office's LAN. Would you be able to find a diagram or a map of some sort? Different companies have different layouts, and some don't even connect to the Internet. Hell, some don't even have firewalls. I was looking at the topology of this nationwide bank. I can't remember the name of it, but it only had ONE firewall.Yes, if you wanted to password-protect your site, you could do that. I think it's usually done through cgi. There might be other ways. I don't know. Never tried it. :P But I think if you wanted to password-protect access from a protocol other than http, you'd have to use something else.- Olivia 4|000017|Steve Lender|07-07-99|Dealing with Criticism. |Uninvited criticism always has the effect of putting me on the defensive. And pissing me off. Not only that, but criticism that isn't asked for is going to be taken badly and not going to even be considered.I think this is a typical reaction.My reply to uninvited criticism is usually, "Who asked you?" Or the classic, "Mind your own fucking business."And this I don't think is outrageous behaviour, because it is the critic that has crossed the line. He might as well have walked up and said, "You're ugly." Or, "Your life means nothing." Whatever the criticism is, it will come off like an insult on what the critic perceives my shortcomings to be. 2|000016|Steve Lender|07-07-99|Howz thuh INterNEt werk?|Yeah, I know that a firewall is a security function.The point, I guess, is that both a firewall and an isp serve as some kind of gateway to the Internet. The connection made TO the firewall (or isp) isn't so important...I get that. It's the connection FROM the firewall (or isp) to the Internet that I'm trying to understand.When I send my little signal through my phone line to my ISP, and my ISP looks at it and passes it on to the next computer, what is between the ISP and the next computer? Is this the "backbone" that I've read about before?Thanks for the input, Olivia. I think I get the password thing. I didn't think about it as http.This may all just be an effort to relieve boredom. 4|000017|Queen Amidala|07-07-99|Dealing with Criticism. |But the thing is... I sometimes get really upset over invited criticism too. Especially when it's negative. Usually I react worse to that then to uninivtited criticism that's negative. Maybe it's because I want to please everybody and make everybody happy, which is impossible... I know. I'm just not sure.Nikki"Space is not remote at all. It's only about an hour's drive if you could drive your car upwards." http://truth.bleach.org 4|000017|ari|07-08-99|Dealing with Criticism. |well, what i try to do is see where they're coming from (after telling myself they're wrong!), and figure out what would make them say whatever they said... for instance, someone said my page sucked, and of course they were wrong but i went and looked at their page to see what kinds of things they were using, and paid attention to -what- they said was wrong, to see what they took into consideration, and i realized that they hadn't seen me slaving away at the computer for hours, all they saw was the end product.and then i made some changes. hope that helped...trust me. 4|000017|Steve Lender|07-08-99|Dealing with Criticism. |Good point, ari. It's vital to try to see where someone else is coming from.Reminds me of a movie scene...How about, when you receive bad criticism, smile and say to yourself, "Fuck you, Jack." Then go about your business. 4|000018|southern gurl|07-08-99|thin thoughts|How thin is too thin? Is being 5'5 and weigh 120lbs fat? Do you think your fat? Do you try to eat healthy and exercise? Is your weight important to you?Do you have to work at keeping a low weight?Just a survey of sorts. I'm really worried about how much the world has emphasized to people that being thin is "in". I think people(including myself) worry about staying thin too much.Do you? 4|000017|shannon s.|07-08-99|Dealing with Criticism. |When people criticize me, I don't usually pay much attention to it. I just tell myself that whatever it was that they were attacking is fine because I like it the way it is. If that made any sense... I think you're right, Ari...It's good to know where they're coming from.A lot of the time, criticism is from a low self esteem from the 'attacker.' So, keep that in mind. 4|000018|Steve Lender|07-08-99|thin thoughts|Cool...I love talking about women's bodies.My humble opinions...Too thin. If, while sleeping, you roll over and cut yourself on your elbow, you are too thin. If, instead of behind your ear, you stick pencils between your ribs, you are too thin.Honestly, thick or thin, being healthy and strong is more important to me. One woman I was with had a very svelt body, but touching her was like pushing into a pillow. It was thin flab. I bet she couldn't run 100yds.My current squeeze is a big girl, but she's not rolly-polly. She's like some great Norse warrior chick, sans horned helmet.Wait, what was the question?hmm. not being female, do these questions still apply?5'5", 120lbs isn't bad. Shape, though, is important. What kind of body do you have? 4|000018|ari|07-08-99|thin thoughts|shape is extremely important. i'm not -very- overweight, but all of it is in the wrong place. i'm not that fat but i do try to eat healthy and exercise, even though it always backfires on me. it's not really being 'thin' because there's a body shape that i -can- get to and a body shape that i couldn't get if my life depended on it, so i think i have fairly realistic goals... having said that, i hate my body. trust me. 4|000018|ari|07-08-99|thin thoughts|dammit i can't edit. go for inches, not pounds, because everyone is different...trust me. 3|000004|StephanE|07-08-99|Favorite and least favorite commercial?|Ugh. I hate the Bubbleyum commercial with the duck waddling around with a pink mohawk and spiked leather jacket chewing bubblegum. Oooo...chew the gum and let loose and be a rebel (like the duck).I thoroughly enjoy the U.S. Women's soccer team commercial where a guy goes into a house and asks for his date to a fatherly figure. The fatherly figure cries out for "the girls" to come down because their date is there and they all come down, when the guy was really expecting only Trisha (I think) to come. The date goes well for everyone except the guy, who looks sullen and irritated, and he hesitatingly says, "I'll call you guys" when he brings them back to their house. Then, the girls say in a hilarious tone (to me, at least), "Nah!" I love the commercial because of the cheesy music that plays in the background during the date and the whole scenario. Hey, the U.S. Women's Soccer Team does everything together and I appreciate it! I also love the Adidas World Cup soccer commericals :O) 3|000009|StephanE|07-08-99|about jar jar|Ewan McGregor (Obi-Wan) rocks.My hero! 4|000018|Megg|07-08-99|thin thoughts|What is too thin? That is such a tricky question. I say if you're happy with the way you look than screw what other people think. Never look at the scale, more likely than not it will only depress you. It's all a matter of attitude and self confidence any way. I know girls who are 30 or 40 pounds overweight who became cheerleaders and prom queens because they were fun to be with and full of confidence. I also know girls who are extremely skinny who eat like cows 24 hours a day and never exercise. So who knows? "I do not regret the things I've done, but those I did not do"--Lucas, Empire Records. 4|000018|spitfire|07-08-99|thin thoughts|At 5'2" and 100 lbs., I'm not fat. I don't think I'm skinny either. I have fat and cellulite just like any other normal person on this planet; it just covers less area. I like the term "petite". I could eat healthier, but I'm no junk food queen and I try to exercise 2-3 times a week. I do watch my weight, but not to "stay thin". It's just my lifestyle.I agree that if you're happy with your body, everything's cool, but not when it borders on anorexia and/or obesity. 2|000017|meredith|07-08-99|web page trends|What's the most annoying trend that you've been noticing in homepages lately? 2|000017|spitfire|07-08-99|web page trends|Really small font. 2|000017|spitfire|07-08-99|web page trends|Oh yeah, Tori Amos inspired personal pages. 2|000016|olivia|07-09-99|Howz thuh INterNEt werk?|Backbone refers to the line that connects workstations in a bus topology. I think the kind of cabling used in a backbone is called a T-Junction, but uh... It's been awhile since I studied that. *L*As for what lies between your ISP and "the next computer," we sure as hell wouldn't know. Ask your ISP, because like I said, different companies have different ways of laying out their network. And I don't think any of us here are educated enough to make a smart guess. Smartest when delirious, honest when tired, and adminstrator when board. 2|000017|olivia|07-09-99|web page trends|(From the teen hosting domain world):- Those boxes used for navigational links. If I made a design like that and showed it to my teacher, she wouldn't like it because the average idiot using the Internet wouldn't know to click on the boxes to get to places. That's just a poor assumption that anyone coming to your site has the experience to figure out how to get around your site.- small fonts (itty bitty)- the word "hiatus" (old trend)- misspelling of the word "feisty"- unnecessary splash pages. Some people actually make use of theirs, like for not jacking up their counter and getting webring obligations out of the way, but most splash pages I've been seeing lately demonstrate no useful purpose.- excessive webring links. Again, the average idiot from outside the teen-domain world wouldn't guess that those are webring links if they just see a billion links like: << blah >> scattered on a page. 4|000017|olivia|07-09-99|Dealing with Criticism. |It took me a long time to actually realize I had a problem receiving criticism. It took some more maturing to figure out how to face criticism. Showing that you're able to accept criticism is a very respectable trait. It usually shocks the critics, too.Nikki, I think knowing that dealing with criticism is a weakness of yours will help you learn to deal with things quicker. One of these days, you're going to be sick of working your way to tears, and then you'll be homefree. Smartest when delirious, honest when tired, and adminstrator when board. 4|000018|olivia|07-09-99|thin thoughts|Well, it depends. Whenever I take those fitness tests at school, they always say I'm healthy as a bean. But those numbers don't seem to correspond with the more petite builds of Asians. I bet if I took a fitness test at an Asian school, I'd be on the borderline of obesity.I'm not really concerned about getting thinner anymore. But I want more muscle! I'm very weak. 2|000017|jeffyen|07-09-99|web page trends|My site does have a splash page, and as much as I want to remove it, I can't because I want my research on my hits to be totally objective. Anyone has any suggestions? Of course, one way would be to turn off graphics when I load my own page, it's just a little too inconvenient...Glimpses ~ daily journal www.itsnotpersonal.com/glimpses 4|000017|jeffyen|07-09-99|Dealing with Criticism. |Call me weird, but I actually find it an honor when I get criticism. ;-) It's like at least people notice you, know what I mean? In my 2 years of maintaining my website, I only got 1 really mean g-book criticism. I really wish I had more...;-pAnother thing is that criticism also gives you a point of view or perspective that you usually never thought of before yourself, so it can actually make things much more interesting. Like using Steve's example, if someone says to me, 'Your life means nothing.', I would say, 'oh really?' then I would go about wondering if that really is true, discovering that life isn't really all that 'nothing'; that exploration would never have come about if the guy hasn't said that to me.And if someone says something really mean, 'like your page sucks' when you've toiled on it for days, of course you're going to get upset. I try to emphasize with the sender of that criticism. What is it exactly that makes him say that? Did he have a terrible day today? Does he remember my page today? Is he really worth all your tears? Probably not...Glimpses ~ daily journal www.itsnotpersonal.com/glimpses 4|000018|southern gurl|07-09-99|thin thoughts|I'm like Olivia I want more muscle! I feel like I'm a weakling.And also, like spitfire, I'm thin, but I do have fat in some places. Doesn't everyone? I don't call myself petite, because I'm not short.As for my shape, I'm going to skip that question :P ..I don't think it necessary for you to know. I know I'm not a 36-24-36 for sure, but I'm not a full-back either. One thing is for sure, I hate being called skinny. I prefer pleasantly thin. =) 2|000017|southern gurl|07-09-99|web page trends|pop-ups. They're great, but sometimes they just get on my freakin' nerves! 3|000004|StephanE|07-09-99|Favorite and least favorite commercial?|Oh, yes...I forgot that I hate the Chips Ahoy, Starburst, and Gatorade commericials. 2|000017|Claire|07-09-99|web page trends|Images of Tori... like you said... but with a dotted line outline (more like broken lines) and then a caption/lyric/etc. in verdana. I see those EVERYWHERE. (c: Or some other female star... or CD cover... but the concept is just the same. OR, any graphic with small text in verdana. Verdana itself has been a trend for awhile. I use it on my site because it's easy to read, and isn't times new roman or arial. (c: And I have a pop-up currently... but it should be gone by this weekend 'cuz I have a brand spankin' new layout to put up. Yay! http://www.northcoast.com/~mtaylor/ 3|000017|olivia|07-09-99|your most embarrassing moment EVER?|My dad's friend was over for dinner one night. I think the conversation turned towards what we did when we slept. My dad joked to his friend, "Have you ever had a wet dream?" And of course, I was too little to know what that was, but I assumed it was wetting your bed. So being eager to contribute to the conversation, I piped, "I have!" Needless to say, there was an awkward moment of silence. Everyone's eyes were wandering, except for mine, because I didn't get what I had said at the time. *L* 1|000018|olivia|07-09-99|NEW POST!|This must be the only UBB with a dead domain forum. Is that a good or a bad thing? 3|000010|michy|07-09-99|Most memorable scene in a movie you've seen?|In When Harry Met Sally...when Billy Crystal and Meg Ryan are in the diner and they're arguing about fake orgasms--she fakes one right at the table. That's classic.And any scene from Empire Records...god, that movie is so quotable! "Who knows where thoughts come from? They just APPEAR." and "Hey! You forgot your thingie!"Ahahahahaha.... 2|000013|michy|07-09-99|(sigh)|I think that if you've had a page for some time, after awhile you begin to question its purpose like that.I felt the same way. And the thing is, it was especially hard because it's so easy to detach yourself from reality when you're online...so all of a sudden my page seemed like it was this bogus thing that wasn't mine anymore--it was UNREAL, something with a life of its own.But see, that's what killed my page. I just stopped updating, and took a break to live in the real world for a while, to worry about my purpose in life and all of that Don Quixote-type stuff.Your page should be for you. It shouldn't just be there to impress other people, because if you're not happy with it, then it loses something special.And speaking of which... Jocelyn, I must say that I'm going to miss your journal. 4|000018|michy|07-09-99|thin thoughts|Pleasantly thin is nice.I like "slender," it's so much more romantic-sounding than "skinny." Or "willowy;" that's a nice adjective, too.Alas, being 4'11'', nobody would ever call me willowy...it's always "tiny" or "little." If I was taller, I'd be on the thin side of average, but as proportions go, everyone says I'm a stick. (shudder)Do you know who frightens me? Calista Flockhart! She's eight inches taller than me and wears the same size--a freakin' ZERO!Now that, boys and girls, is too thin. 1|000018|StephanE|07-09-99|NEW POST!|It's a good thing. I'm kind of tired reading those Beverly sucks/Beverly doesn't suck! arguments. 4|000018|Claire|07-09-99|thin thoughts|My best friends are 5'4 & 5'5 and weigh about 125 and are always saying they're fat and/or ugly... it gets on my nerves so much because it just isn't true. It's especially annoying when they compare themselves to me. I'm 5'4 and about 105 lbs. I'm lazy, I rarely excercise and I eat whatever I feel like... I can't really help how thin I am. It's just genetic. They're also more muscular & bigger-boned people than I am and than the rest of my family is. Some people worry about their weight too much, some don't worry enough. It all depends on the person because, obviously, everyone is different. http://www.northcoast.com/~mtaylor/ 4|000018|StephanE|07-10-99|thin thoughts|I'm only 5'0 and I'm not considered thin and I'm not considered fat. I think I'm somewhat chubby, but what other people think varies. Some think I'm just right and some people think I could lose around 10 lbs. I don't know...I would like to be more thin, but I'm not very exercise oriented. I'm lucky to have a pretty good metabolism, for without it I probably would be labeled as being "fat." My mom was only around 80 pounds at 5'0 when she was in her 20's and she ate normally, and I eat more than normally so...Anyways, I just have to control myself and eat less and exercise more. I usually do best in a certain environment...at a camp I went to, I had to walk all the time and was on a schedule involving about 6.5 hrs of violin practice time, so during that one week, I lost about 5 lbs. I used to go to cardio kickboxing, but I've lost interest in it now, so I don't go anywhere.About my height...I would love it if I could grow more! For some reason though, people think I'm taller than I seem. For instance, my best friend is 2 inches taller than me, but all my friends think that she's much smaller than I am. They always tease her about her height, and people have told me that it's not my height that makes me little, but it's my hips and small hands and such. 2|000013|ari|07-12-99|(sigh)|yikes! everyone's leaving... i guess it might be time for a new 'generation.'thanks you guys, even though i still don't know. having a page just seems so ultimately selfish. but i'm trying to get something off the ground here... trust me. 2|000013|Steve Lender|07-12-99|(sigh)|ari...where's your page?where's your page?where's your page?where's your page? 4|000017|Steve Lender|07-12-99|Dealing with Criticism. |jeffyen...I think that is a very clear way to think. I remember criticizing a page once, and later the page kinda grew on me. The criticism I had delivered was from an undeveloped point of view.To emphathise with these occurances is to forgive ignorance. 4|000018|Steve Lender|07-12-99|thin thoughts|southerngurl...dimensions aren't important, but body shape is. there are different bodies.you have the straight rail people.there are the "apple" people, who put weight up on their torsos.there are the "pear" or "spoon" people, who tend to put weight on their lower bodies...thighs and lower abodomen.It's all about how the body puts weight on these different frames.Rails can look good at almost any weight.The pear people have a fair degree of tolerance in their weight...a round hipped woman isn't so bad.The poor apple people look like a meatball on a couple of toothpicks when they put on weight. They are also more prone to heart problems.Of course, most of this is my opinion. This and $5.00 will get you a cup of coffee. 4|000018|southern gurl|07-12-99|thin thoughts|True, although I don't think I fit under any of those descriptions. I'm closer to the straight rail people if any body though.I think I'm nicely poportioned, however I'd like my legs to be a bit bigger; not so skinny. My boyfriend disagrees.Hey, if there is one physical quality you like about yourself what is it? 3|000010|sailorclaris|07-12-99|Most memorable scene in a movie you've seen?|The part in Vampire Hunter D when Doris tells D she loves him and he's trying reaally hard not to bite her neck. =P--lyn 3|000017|Megg|07-12-99|your most embarrassing moment EVER?|Oh man, that's funny! My most embarrassing moment happened in drama class. Everyone had to make a mask and then make the mask's character come alive by using our bodies. Well, when my group was on stage doing our thing, I accidentally tripped on some stairs that were part of the set for Bye Bye Birdie and I literally flew across the stage. The whole class laughed and asked if I was ok. I tell you it was a good thing I was wearing that mask because my face was bright red. As if that wasn't bad enough, it was all caught on tape. The teacher showed it again in class to show us what we needed to improve on. It will be used in future classes as an example. My friends in video editing even added sound effects! It sucks to be me."I do not regret the things I've done, but those I did not do"--Lucas, Empire Records. 3|000004|sailorclaris|07-12-99|Favorite and least favorite commercial?|Ugh, I HATE the 7-Up commercials. Yeah, let's all drink 7-Up and be cool and unique. Give me a serious break, man. --lyn 4|000018|ari|07-12-99|thin thoughts|i like my eyes, without my glasses. sometimes. and my eyebrows. quote:...a round hipped woman isn't so bad.steve gets bonus points! bonus points for steve!trust me. 3|000010|ari|07-12-99|Most memorable scene in a movie you've seen?|the part in braveheart when they moon the enemy!trust me. 2|000013|ari|07-12-99|(sigh)|wouldn't you like to know? not in existance as of now, i swore off the net an hour ago, then promptly got on and checked my mail. -sigh- every time i have a bad day (like today), which is more often than not, i promise myself i'm just going to quit doing anything. i'm just going to sit and stare at a wall until i die. but i don't know what's worse, trying so hard or failing...where was i? if i do start this thing again, it'll probably be at http://sidereal.org . go visit alyssa; she rocks.trust me. 2|000013|ari|07-12-99|(sigh)|existence. i can spell, really i can...trust me. 4|000018|Steve Lender|07-12-99|thin thoughts|Yay..! I got extra points.I'm sure most of you have seen Pulp Fiction. The scene with Bruce Willis and his frenchy little girlfriend...she's talking about growing a pot belly, and she says something about how odd it is that what is pleasing to the eye, and what is pleasing to the touch are two very different things.It's true. 3|000017|Steve Lender|07-12-99|your most embarrassing moment EVER?|In school, I went to give chase to a kid who was taunting me, but my foot caught the ground funny and I ate it.The embarassing part came when I tried to get up and proceed with my chase. For some reason, I never became vertical again, and promptly fell back down.I think only about 235 people saw that. 4|000018|olivia|07-12-99|thin thoughts|Yes, shouldn't more men be attracted to child-bearing hips? I'd like for my legs to be a little longer. I have long, skinny arms, but my legs are what make me short. I grew up wondering if maybe I was an alien. Heh.The one physical quality I like about myself would be my chest. I don't have the deep-cleavage Hollywood type. I guess what I like is being able to fill a dress nicely but still be comfortable jogging. 4|000019|Claire|07-12-99|Suggestions?|I haven't read a good book in, like, forever... any suggestions? I like mostly dramas, mysteries, & thrillers... preferrably without any or much sex in them. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. http://www.northcoast.com/~mtaylor/ 4|000018|Steve Lender|07-13-99|thin thoughts|Last night, on the tube, I saw an article about how fashion designers are phasing out the waif model for a more curvacious model.They had pictures.They looked like waifs with big breasts.It's like they are trying to find the body style that is the very most difficult to find.Good luck matching that. 4|000018|michy|07-13-99|thin thoughts|isn't it funny how the definition of beauty changes with time? Like in the Renaissance, a beautiful woman was voluptuous...you've seen the paintings. We'd call her fat today, but back then, the ideal woman was supposed to be soft-bodied. It was "feminine."And a few centuries later we have the "waif-look-with-big-breasts." sigh. 4|000018|olivia|07-13-99|thin thoughts|michy - I think it's because the larger women were more likely to survive childbirth. It's those child-bearing hips, I tell ya. 4|000018|olivia|07-13-99|thin thoughts|Those waifs with big breasts are probably going to suffer some serious back strain. 4|000019|olivia|07-13-99|Suggestions?|Have you read the Scarlet Pimpernel? It's one of the most exciting classics I've ever read. 4|000020|Eva|07-13-99|Blair Witch Project|Has anyone heard of this movie? I can't wait to see it! Check it out at blairwitch. comI'm a little coconut, sitting on the coco ground. I'm a nut, in a rut, I'm crazy. Call myself up on the phone just to see if I was home, asked myself out on a date showed up a quarter-hour late. I'm a nut, in a rut, I'm crazy. Took myself to the picture show, sat in the very first row. Wrapped my arms around my waist, got so fresh I slapped my face. I'm a nut, in a rut, I'm crazy. 4|000018|Steve Lender|07-13-99|thin thoughts|test... 4|000018|Steve Lender|07-13-99|thin thoughts|Oops.Anyway...I thought it funny that fashion designers feel they can dictate what people should think is beautiful. How presumptuous. 4|000019|Claire|07-13-99|Suggestions?|Nope... I'll go check it out. (c: I need to read more... it's been awhile since I've really read anything. The last book I got was Love Music, Loves to Dance by Mary Higgins Clark because an old friend of mine had suggested it a couple of years ago & I hadn't gotten around to getting it from the library until then. That's pretty awful, now that I think about it. (c: http://www.northcoast.com/~mtaylor/ 4|000019|spitfire|07-13-99|Suggestions?|Hmm....well have you read "The Hot Zone" by Richard Preston? I guess it can be construed as a thriller since it's about the ebola virus. I also like "Divine Secrets of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood" by Rebecca Wells. I'm currently reading "Little Altars Everywhere" by her and it's great so far. 4|000020|spitfire|07-13-99|Blair Witch Project|I can't wait to see it. The previews actually gave me goosebumps. 4|000021|spitfire|07-13-99|A shameless self-promotion -- |--- but Happy Birthday to me! heh 4|000020|cyn|07-13-99|Blair Witch Project|Aah, I keep hearing about this movie everywhere on the net... boards, mailing lists, etc. I never would have *heard* of it if it hadn't been for the net...And now even I'm considering seeing it -- it's supposed to be really good, and scary as hell. :]Desire is not a logical thing. It is purely emotional, and it is a menace. http://terabithia.net 4|000019|cyn|07-13-99|Suggestions?|I just finished reading Sphere [by Michael Crichton]. It was... interesting, heh. I liked The Mists of Avalon when I read it a month or two ago. I have rather strange reading tastes, though.Spitfire -- if I remember correctly, a friend of mine read The Hot Zone and really liked it. :]Desire is not a logical thing. It is purely emotional, and it is a menace. http://terabithia.net 4|000021|cyn|07-13-99|A shameless self-promotion -- |It's your birthday? Woowoo!! :]*would sing happy birthday but doesn't want to break any nearby windows*Desire is not a logical thing. It is purely emotional, and it is a menace. http://terabithia.net 4|000021|ari|07-13-99|A shameless self-promotion -- |happy birthday!and damn, cyn, do you make up your own sigs? i'm envious.trust me. 4|000019|ari|07-13-99|Suggestions?|*hated the hot zone, but is keeping her mouth shut*read catch-22, if you haven't already. oodles of fun. trust me. 4|000018|ari|07-13-99|thin thoughts|there was some survey that found that men are subconciously attracted to a woman's waist/hip ratio. of course, that only works if you have no middle...i think none of this really matters if you're in proportion and/or healthy. my big thing is that i'm not in proportion. darn those genetics...(and where are all these rich, skinny people they keep making clothes for?)trust me. 4|000020|Eva|07-13-99|Blair Witch Project|I watched the sci fi special and I want to see it even more now. I know it's stupid but I think about the movie all the time. It's like invaded my mind. I have this feeling that I will never go camping again after I see it. 4|000021|cyn|07-13-99|A shameless self-promotion -- |Ari -- my sig's from my July 12 journal entry, actually. *grin*Desire is not a logical thing. It is purely emotional, and it is a menace. http://terabithia.net 4|000021|StephanE|07-14-99|A shameless self-promotion -- |Happy belated birthday! *sings the song* 4|000021|southern gurl|07-14-99|A shameless self-promotion -- |Yeah, Happy Belated Birthday!!I can't believe your only a year younger than my oldest sister now.I feel like your the same age as me! Does that mean you're immature for your age or that I'm really mature? Heh :P 4|000022|southern gurl|07-14-99|why can't I find any??|I want pictures of cloudy or sunny skies, or the sun, or sunflowers, or anything Southern looking. I'm sick of looking in the newsgroups, I never get anything good.Does anyone have any suggestions? 4|000021|spitfire|07-14-99|A shameless self-promotion -- |southern gurl, we've known one another for what? two years? you should know by now that I am DEFINITELY immature for my age! - the almost quarter of a century girl. 4|000022|spitfire|07-14-99|why can't I find any??|I've got tons of clipart and photo images of that! Email me what you want/need and I'll email you what I have. 4|000022|StephanE|07-14-99|why can't I find any??|How 'bout some Norman Rockwell pictures? Some look southern. Do you have a scanner? 4|000021|southern gurl|07-15-99|A shameless self-promotion -- |Oh, darn! I thought I was just really really mature I can't believe its already been 2 years! 4|000022|southern gurl|07-15-99|why can't I find any??|Thanks spitfire; I'll email soon. I have to admit; you do have the best clipart of anybody I've seen.And yeah, I have a scanner. I thought of scanning something I have; but I couldn't ever find anything that fits my page. 4|000023|Steve Lender|07-15-99|Which is worse?|Which is worse?A woman being killed?Or a man being killed? 4|000023|spitfire|07-15-99|Which is worse?|A child being killed. 4|000023|shannon s.|07-15-99|Which is worse?|how could they not be equal? 3|000018|jeff|07-15-99|Should condoms be passed out in school?|Should condoms be passed out in school? 3|000018|southern gurl|07-16-99|Should condoms be passed out in school?|Nope. I do think there should be some sort of sex education, but I don't think its the school's responsiblity to pass out condoms.If these kids are "big" and "mature" enough to have sex then they sure as heck can go out and buy their own condoms! 4|000023|southern gurl|07-16-99|Which is worse?|Okay, right now I'm in a weird mood so someone please explain to me.Why is a child being killed worse than an adult being killed? To me, all of it is sad and horrible.It use to be that children were so much more innocent than adults, but that isn't even the case anymore. Nearby from where I live, in Jacksonville, FL, a 12 year old boy killed and stuffed a little girl under his waterbed for like over 2 weeks! Isn't that so sad?I have to admit when I see on the news that a baby has been killed I'm overcomed with more sadness than if I hear of a man being murdered. Why is this tho?? 3|000018|ari|07-16-99|Should condoms be passed out in school?|hear hear. it's like a license to have sex.trust me. 4|000023|spitfire|07-16-99|Which is worse?|I'm not saying it's "worse" than a man or a woman, but when I think of a child being killed, I feel more "saddened", thinking of the years that child only had on this earth. I'm probably becoming more de-sensitized though. And *that's* sad. 4|000024|southern gurl|07-16-99|Adultery|Do you automatically think a woman a bwitch if she's committmed Adultery? 4|000023|Steve Lender|07-16-99|Which is worse?|Child was not an option in the question.I've been thinking about equality, and it seems to me that it only really goes so far.I think there are basic (very very basic) roles that genders play, and that people ignore or forget this.Lemme rephrase...Which is worse, a father being killed,or a mother being killed? 4|000024|Steve Lender|07-16-99|Adultery|Nope. 3|000018|StephanE|07-16-99|Should condoms be passed out in school?|I'm not really sure what I make of it as yet, but there was a study done that showed that passing out condoms did not increase sexual activity and that teens who were active before they were passed out used them. 4|000023|Megg|07-16-99|Which is worse?|Your question doesn't make much sense. I'm wondering if what you really mean is if a child is better raised by their father or by their mother. I don't care either way because the world is overpopulated as it is, and besides it really depends on the person and not their sex. Trust me, I've met a lot of women who should not be mothers. The same can be said about a lot of fathers too. Or maybe you mean you disagree with the whole men letting women leave a dangerous, life threatening situation first kind of thing. Which by the way I disagree with."I do not regret the things I've done, but those I did not do"--Lucas, Empire Records. 1|000018|Shannon|07-17-99|NEW POST!|I think it is. I pretend that plastique doesn't exist - just to keep sane. 3|000018|shannon s.|07-17-99|Should condoms be passed out in school?|Maybe not 'passed out', but I think they should be sold in the little vending things in bathrooms. Couldn't hurt. 3|000018|Lisa|07-18-99|Should condoms be passed out in school?|I have no qualms about condom vending machines in high school. If someone wants to do it, they're going to do it and I think it's better if condoms are freely available. having said that, my Uni goes a bit crazy with giving out free condoms. There's a big bowl of them in the student office and they were attached to last month's Entropy magazine. Sometimes I find that a bit weird, but hey, when have I ever been opposed to free stuff.I don't think education about safe sex encourages you to have sex, I think it just gives you the information you need to make up your own mind. I think adults in particular, think kids have.. how do I put this.. no brains, but we do. I don't know what I'm talking about here so bye! 3|000018|jeff|07-18-99|Should condoms be passed out in school?|I agree with Lisa. Parents think we kids are very very dumb people, always scolding us not do this or that, or to be like him or her. The slowest of us have brains too, you know! But then again, I suppose they have relevant reasons to lecture us daily, thanks to the intelligent bastards going around town sniffing and doing drugs. DAMN THEM."Beer: Helping ugly people have sex since 1862!" 4|000020|spitfire|07-18-99|Blair Witch Project|Saw it Friday night...I liked it. Especially the end. The ending was the kicker. 3|000018|renee|07-19-99|Should condoms be passed out in school?|Y'know, a lot of society's conservatives actually believe that handing out condoms to kids is a way of encouraging sexual activity. But really, when you think about it, passing out condoms is one way of saying, "If you're gonna do it, do it safely."Nature will take its course one way or another and you can either acknowledge it and guide it or you can let it go over your head.It's like if you have kids. Now, let's face it, kids lie to their parents because they know their parents can't handle the truth. If I had a kid, I'd want him/her to be able to tell me anything. If that kid wants to have sex, then I'd leave a basket of condoms under the bathroom sink, free for the taking. That way, my kid would know that even if I'm not OK with it, I'm not gonna say, "No, you can't do it," because it would be pushing my values onto him/her.I'd just hope that I raised him/her to be able to think straight. And that's really all that can be done.*hugsie* 4|000004|renee|07-19-99|Guys are shitty|What exactly does your boyfriend do that makes you think he's such an asshole? I mean, it's true, guys do get frustrated, both physically and emotionally when things don't just *progress* as they want them to. It's the same with everyone. Often one will influence the other and you can end up with a guy who's ticked in the head because his nether regions aren't being satistfied.Body and mind are connected.If he means what he says, then to honor the justice of it, you have to mean what you say, the same way he does. I'm not saying go ahead and sleep with him when you're not ready, but you can't afford to let it stuff itself up by having second guessers throw in their comments willy-nilly. Have in your mind what you want to do. And stick to it. Don't fall into some pattern of behavior where it's you who is doing all the copping of the shit.[Question: Am I allowed to use that word?]I'm not gonna use any "if he really loves you" statements, but in order to offer you some decent human courtesy, then he would understand and respect that you've made a decision and that you are not to be told what to do.But at the same time, you have to understand and respect that he has needs. And in order to give him the same courtesy, acknowledge the fact that he gets frustrated and may not be able to express it in the way that you'd like him to. There are places to draw lines on this issue, but right here is really not that place.He's probably worried that you're getting highly ticked at the fact that he keeps chucking a spaz on you. If you love him, tell him so, and make sure he knows that no amount of pressue is going to make things good. He should at least realise that somehow.If he's really an asshole, then he won't respect that.Good luck!*hugsie* 4|000017|renee|07-19-99|Dealing with Criticism. |Maybe it's because when total strangers criticise, this little ding-ding goes off in our minds that says, "What do they know? They mean nothing to me."I find that bearing in mind that when someone criticises you, it's pointing out a fault. And in that fault, there is a little hole which will suck in whatever has already been perfected if not attended to.Maybe you're just not meant to deal with criticism yet. Sometimes you need to grow into it. I had to. It's like that. Just know that there are opinions around that are different from yours. It's hard, but it works eventually.*hugsie* 4|000019|renee|07-19-99|Suggestions?|1. "The Starlight Crystal" by Christopher Pike - I swear, this book has become my Bible.2. "Interview With The Vampire" by Anne Rice.3. "The Vampire Lestat" by Anne Rice.4. "The Second Sex" by Simone DeBeauvoir - while I'm not too keen on the whole feminist scene, the language is quite amusing.Or why not try writing your own book? Hehe...*hugsie* 4|000018|renee|07-19-99|thin thoughts|It's not *that* easy for skinny people to find clothes. They have to fit right, they have to sit right, they have to be comfortable, etc. etc. etc. I feel lucky that I don't really care, but I look at my sister and wonder how she finds the time.And just for the sake of saying it, I'm happy with how I am. ^_^southern gurl: I'm probably what some ppl would call "too thin". I'm 5'2" and 96lbs on a heavy day.*hugsie* 4|000022|renee|07-19-99|why can't I find any??| http://www.art.com http://www.iconbazaar.com http://www.zing.com Try these places for stuff. ^_^*hugsie* 4|000024|renee|07-19-99|Adultery|Compared to what?She was obviously a bitch to the guy that she was attached to. But she may be able to justify her reasons.I dunno.*hugsie* 4|000025|renee|07-19-99|language barrier|If anyone knows Croatian, Russian or any one of those Slovakian languages, is there a chance you'd be willing to help me literate some lyrics? I've got the English translation of them and a rough idea of the phonetics, but no foothold on grammar and spelling...*hugsie* 3|000018|ari|07-19-99|Should condoms be passed out in school?|i thought parents were supposed to communicate values to their kids."it's natural to get mad. i already know you're going to go out and kill someone, so here are some gloves so you won't get fingerprints all over the place."trust me. 4|000018|ari|07-19-99|thin thoughts|renee - ah, but you have more choices...trust me. 4|000018|spitfire|07-19-99|thin thoughts|ari - choices such as? 3|000018|Steve Lender|07-19-99|Should condoms be passed out in school?|I don't think it's fair to compare having sex to killing people.Having sex is natural. It's not wrong. And it's unstoppable. As a parent, I think the best you can do for your kids is to teach them to be responsible about it. And if through teaching them responsibility they learn to just wait to have sex until they're ready, that's all the better.But it's probably easier to stop a freight train than it is to stop a teenagers sex drive. 4|000018|ari|07-19-99|thin thoughts|oh, choices such as available sizes/heights/widths/ratios, available styles...trust me. 3|000018|ari|07-19-99|Should condoms be passed out in school?|i never said sex was wrong. i do think it's wrong to take it lightly. and 'unstoppable' is just one point of view.trust me. 4|000018|spitfire|07-19-99|thin thoughts|I'm not sure if that's true...not for me at least. More often that not, I end up having to get something hemmed or taken in. If they do happen to fit, it's:1) too trendy. I'm 24. I don't want to look like I'm 15 again.2) too expensive. I'm not about to shell out a $100 for a plain white cotton dress shirt. 4|000024|spitfire|07-19-99|Adultery|Nope...but I'd have to ask her what the hell was she thinking!?! 4|000025|olivia|07-19-99|language barrier|A few years ago, I had a cultural question about a country, and I couldn't find the answer at all. So I went to a chatroom on wbs.net for people from that country. That's where someone was able to answer me. Actually, I think several people did. 3|000018|renee|07-20-99|Should condoms be passed out in school?|Whether taking it lightly is wrong or right, it's not for us to make you see that because chances are, you won't change your mind and it'd seem like we're *forcing* you to adopt our values. That's how some ppl feel when they want access to condoms and they're denied.A couple of kids around here went into a chemist to buy condoms. The guy behind the counter wouldn't sell them what they wanted.The guy could have meant, "You're too young to have sex. You don't know what you're doing. Think about this before you rush into anything." But his intentions could have been interpretted as, "They're not that important anyway. I'd sell it to you if it were oxygen, but you don't need them."Same thing with passing out condoms in school, except it has the exact opposite effect. It's telling the kids that sex is not a bad thing. It's just, if you're gonna do it, then for the love of all things sacred, protect yourself from any undesirable consequences.*hugsie* 4|000018|renee|07-20-99|thin thoughts|I hear you there, spitfire. Designerwear prices is ridiculous.*hugsie* 4|000025|renee|07-20-99|language barrier|Thank you! ^_^*hugsie* 3|000018|ari|07-20-99|Should condoms be passed out in school?|how did sex turn into such a joke?i understand your example, but i also think those kids should question why they're getting such a hard time.everyone seems to be of the opinion 'if they're going to do it, they're going to do it.' ever think that that's not true of every single teenager in the world? yet these seem to be the only ones you're addressing, while i'm trying to bring everyone into the picture.let me amend my first statement. no, i do not think condoms should be passed out, for free, at school. if parents want to get them for their kids, fine. if schools want to sell them, fine. but a school paying for something like that really bothers me; all the kid has to do is stand there and hold out their hand.this is totally random, but about the 'license' thing - i felt it was like giving a car to a 14-year-old. some 14-year-olds may be ready to drive, some may not, but does that mean they all get access to the driver's ed car? and with that car, some may be fine on the road, and some may swerve all over the place and cause a massacre. i'm not comparing this damage to diseases, but to emotional effects. sex screws with your head no matter how old you are, and the younger you are, it's probable that you're less likely to think about that, and be all big and bad and make decisions you could regret later.trust me. 4|000018|southern gurl|07-20-99|thin thoughts|Oh, wow, spitfire your post just brought up another thing with me! I'm 19 - I'm in between the teens and women. I hate it! All of the junior jeans are bellbottoms and all the womens jeans don't fit me right! Its that way with everything. There is no in-between!Also, I always hear don't be mean to overweight people or look down on them - sympathize with them....well, that's true, but hey, I'm sick of thin people always getting the wrap for being mean to overweight people! It isn't our fault and we shouldn't be critized jsut because we're slender! 3|000018|Steve Lender|07-20-99|Should condoms be passed out in school?|Damnit...A condom will not make you have sex. I don't care if you are given a truck load of them.You'd only increase sexual intercourse in youth a little if you handed out a condom AND a super model of the youth's choice.Sure, handing out licences to drive to 14 yr olds would encourage almost everone of them to drive. Driving is fun, with an obvious lack of emotional baggage. You don't have to act stupid and sweet talk a car. You don't have to try to get it drunk. You don't have to figure out how to talk to it the next day. Maybe you'll crash.Condoms are the air bags and seatbelts. 3|000018|ari|07-20-99|Should condoms be passed out in school?|i never said condoms would make them want to have sex. trust me. 3|000018|Steve Lender|07-20-99|Should condoms be passed out in school?|ari-"it's like a license to have sex.""i do think it's wrong to take it lightly. and 'unstoppable' is just one point of view.""but a school paying for something like that really bothers me; all the kid has to do is stand there and hold out their hand."How can I not conclude that you feel handing out condoms is wrong and that if the condom wasn't readily available the youth would just skip intercourse? 3|000018|ari|07-20-99|Should condoms be passed out in school?|i think the school handing out condoms is wrong. without a condom, some kids would go ahead and have sex, and some wouldn't. i really don't think there are any absolutes, there's a spectrum here. that's all i meant.i used the word 'license' (and after this post i'll stop! ) because i thought the school took the personal/family aspect out of it. i still think it's wrong to take sex lightly, a sort of 'oh, shall i screw someone today?' feeling that some huge abundance of condoms, i think, would give it. i'm not saying they don't think 'oh, shall i screw someone?' but there's a difference."but a school paying for something like that really bothers me; all the kid has to do is stand there and hold out their hand." there's no precursor of responsibility in that scenario.all i meant by unstoppable was that you made it sound like everyone, everywhere, is having sex. which they're not, and there's more types of kids than who's having/going to have sex and who's not. that's all...trust me. 3|000018|Steve Lender|07-20-99|Should condoms be passed out in school?|I understand your position much more clearly now. Thanks for taking the time to explain it.No, not everybody is doing it. Those who are going to, are going to. Not having access to a condom may not deter them. If they can't purchase one from a pharmacist, and they're parents won't hear a word of it, better that they get one >somewhere<.Do they actually hand them out; everyone gets one? Maybe they should have a fish bowl full of condoms in the library or something. Get one if you need one.-------i hope i don't come off like an asshole to you ari. sometimes i can't help myself. 4|000019|. k a t e .|07-20-99|Suggestions?|Hey everyone. I haven't ever been on one of these things before. This looks kinda fun (c: 3|000018|ari|07-20-99|Should condoms be passed out in school?|steve - no offense taken. trust me. 3|000018|renee|07-21-99|Should condoms be passed out in school?|ari, I can see where you're coming from, but like you said, not every kid is having sex. But since condoms are an issue for those who are having sex, then why not let those who are sexually active get what they need to do it safely?Sure, there are people who are conscientious about the whole "if it's not on, it's not on" thing, but that would show some sense of maturity and responsibility, indicating that there's a chance those two kids know what they're getting into, or at least have some idea.And why not pass out condoms in school? If you wanna try and *stop* sex by doing that, then ask yourself why.And on the concept of *school*, well... A school is a learning institution which supposedly looks out for the best interests of its students. If a school wants to promote the "Safe Sex" campaign, then why not make it easier by making contraception readily available?*hugsie* 3|000019|renee|07-21-99|Is banning porn censorship or protection?|Recently, the Australian government passed a bill that would force Australian servers to remove all forms of material rated X or RC (Refused Classification), else pay a hefty fine of several thousand per day.The government's excuse is that they want to prevent this sort of "information" from being accessed by minors. Now, while these intentions may be fine and dandy and Good Sammy, adults are being denied their right to porn.Personally, I'm not one to appreciate porn, but I don't think that those who do enjoy it should be denied access.What do you say?(I'm going cross-ubb with this one...)*hugsie* 3|000018|ari|07-21-99|Should condoms be passed out in school?|some people are conscientious. and some are not. a fishbowl in the library doesn't differentiate between those who are mature and those who aren't. family does, because either the kid talked to his/her parents, or the parents made the decision without them. regular stores do, because the kid had to make the decision to actually go and purchase them. but someone who doesn't have the guts to do either can just go and get a handful between classes.i'm not trying to stop sex, i want people to have to stop and think first. then they can do whatever they want. and i'll repeat myself a third time: i have a problem with free condoms in school. if they want to sell them, fine. but don't make others pay for them without their consent.sure. give 'em condoms. in high school. and in middle school. and in elementary school. what's the difference? give 'em birth control, too.trust me. 3|000019|Steve Lender|07-21-99|Is banning porn censorship or protection?|I like pornography. I suspect I like at it a different level than most, or at least at a different level than those who don't like porn think that porn-likers like it.I'm all for protecting children from images that are not appropriate for them. Not because it's bad, or evil, but because they just aren't ready to understand the medium.To ban porn, and to fine it, is completely wrong. Most of all, I despise it when government steps in to control our lives. The job of protecting children lays on the parents of the children.You don't set junior in front of the computer and let him at it, just because you want him out of your hair for a few hours, if you don't want him to find some kind of adult material. 3|000018|Steve Lender|07-21-99|Should condoms be passed out in school?|Sure...I want people to stop and think, too.But how often does that happen? Amongst the fine dwellers of this little ubb it happens quite often, but the less than average teenage boy or girl, who probably live in a trailer park with 12 siblings and at least 2 cousins running around are under dire influences to procreate at unrestricted levels.Perhaps, if we throw enough condoms at kids, we can keep our little trailer park friend from ending up with 2 kids at the age of 18, preserving his chances at maybe obtaining a good education, and learning on his own the responsibility that he could never observe in his family's setting, after he grows up a little and has the natural maturity that age delivers.I don't mind paying a little tax for that. Even if it's a long shot. 3|000018|renee|07-21-99|Should condoms be passed out in school?|Sure, ari, why waste the taxpayers money on those who don't require it, hmm? Some kids attend school less than they skip it. So why should all residents have to pay the government tax so that kids can skip school? It's so the people who don't can get an education.Why should all residents have to have their tax dollars go towards buying condoms that the school hands out for free? So that the people who need them can get to them.It's the same deal. You can't please the world, so you cater to the needs of the really needy. Some kids really need condoms, so why not let them have their condoms.Some people really need to kill. Denying them access to a gun is just gonna make them find some other way to do it.That was probably a rather bad example, but you get my point.*hugsie* 3|000018|Steve Lender|07-21-99|Should condoms be passed out in school?|renee...I liked your gun example, though probably because it reflects my views on an entirely different topic.Think of all the things that taxes pay for that are not avoided by a condom. The federal and state aid for medicare, and welfare, and WIC. 3|000018|Lisa|07-22-99|Should condoms be passed out in school?|It seems like the focus of this thread is the 'moral implications' of giving out free condoms willy nilly (no pun intended) and maybe I missed someone's post, but the real purpose of educating teens about safe sex and giving them the means to practice it, is to prevent the spread of STDs and unwanted pregnancies. There were some good points made about the maturity levels of different people, and in my opinion that's why condoms in conjunction with education about it is important. Some people experiment early and that's just how it is and nothing will change that (unless all of the parents in the world become as strict as mine). Having the condoms there seems like a good idea because it will help prevent ppl from getting pregnant or catching a disease. Really, this whole issue seems like a branching off the real issue. I think older people are disturbed by young people doing it and I think they have a unrealistic perception of what being a teenager is like (my thanks goes to the media!). 3|000018|renee|07-22-99|Should condoms be passed out in school?|Party on, Lisa. *nods*Steve: Thanks. You're a pro-firearms person?*hugsie* 3|000018|Steve Lender|07-22-99|Should condoms be passed out in school?|renee...yeah, I'm one for the individual protecting themselves.Either with a condom or a gun.Why, where do you stand? 3|000020|southern gurl|07-23-99|gonna take a chance|And ask for everyone's opinion of my page. I put a new look. Will ya be nice and take a peek? Pretty please? I'm asking all of you because I know (from experience) that you all are honest and aren't afraid to speak your mind. Oh and please keep in mind I don't intend on keeping the current picture up. I just can't find one I like. Thanks!Dana<http://mailsync.org/dana> 4|000019|Clarity|07-24-99|Suggestions?|I'm really into Wally Lamb and Ayn Rand books lately. Try reading She Comes Undone by Wally Lamb. SUCH a good book. And The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand. The Diary of Anne Frank is excellent, too. 4|000019|rebecca|07-24-99|Suggestions?|Ah, I just finished She's Come Undone. I can finally know what everyone earlier had been raving about. (:the Hot Zone is gruesome. 3|000018|renee|07-24-99|Should condoms be passed out in school?|Steve: I reckon this world is full of stupid people who do stupid things, with very few who make the exception. If people knew how to use the brains that were handed out at some point in time, we'd have no need for condom issues and gun issues. *g**hugsie* 3|000021|southern gurl|07-27-99|desktop screen shots|I see so many homepages with a pic of their desktop for viewers to see. I'd love to put that on my page. But I'm clueless as to how I do that. Help? 3|000021|spitfire|07-27-99|desktop screen shots|There are many ways to do it....I just hit the print screen key, open up PSP, and paste new image.Hey, did you get my mail? 3|000021|southern gurl|07-28-99|desktop screen shots|Thanks girl! It works. Another question. Is there a place on the net where you can download nifty deskstop screens? 3|000022|Steve Lender|07-29-99|Yawn|Someone die? Feels like a funeral in here. Everyone has someting better to do? 3|000022|rebecca|07-29-99|Yawn|yes. I was wondering the same thing.. 1|000018|Steve|07-31-99|NEW POST!|And yet, you sadly fail at it for reasons other than that http://www.misanthrope.org "L'enfer, c'est les autres." 3|000022|jeff|07-31-99|Yawn|i think everyone's hibernating... hmm. 3|000023|jeff|08-01-99|Is it just me...|Is it just me or is this year going by TOO quickly? 3|000023|Claire|08-01-99|Is it just me...|No.. I've noticed that, too. It's getting on my nerves. I don't even do much but sit around on my lazy rear all day, so how come it's August already?? http://www.northcoast.com/~mtaylor/ 3|000023|spitfire|08-01-99|Is it just me...|Yep, it's going by quickly! August is here....thirty-some odd days until football season starts! 3|000023|jeff|08-02-99|Is it just me...|Yep.. football is coming soon, the sport I am not to fond of. Hey, that means baseball is ending soon! ;/ Oh no! 3|000023|rebecca|08-02-99|Is it just me...|yes jeff. at the end of baseball season, we are all going to die. 3|000022|Steve Lender|08-03-99|Yawn|That's a shame, because I really have nothing better to do.I also, unfortunately, cannot think of a topic right now. I think, maybe, I've lost my mind. 3|000023|Steve Lender|08-03-99|Is it just me...|I hope it's only you baseball people that are gonna die.That's a joke...really.I don' like baseball. It's a bunch of guys, doing their thing, hoping that the other team makes errors.I like football. Much more aggressive thinking involved. You don't wait for your opponent to make mistakes, you plow through. 4|000020|Claire|08-03-99|Blair Witch Project|I just saw it last night & was kind of disappointed... You're right spitfire... the end was definitely the kicker. But, yeah... it didn't scare me at all. Actually, I started laughing near the end. My friends are all deathly afraid of going camping now, though. (c: http://www.northcoast.com/~mtaylor/ 3|000023|renee|08-04-99|Is it just me...|This year is going by quickly. It's not too bad, though. I mean, everything goes by quickly if you're having fun and I know I'm loving every minute of it. How about y'all?*hugsie* 3|000023|rebecca|08-04-99|Is it just me...|Yeah.. looking at ther calendar, it seems like the year has flown by, but when I sit down and think about all the things that have passed throughout the last seven months.. I guess it wasn't too much of a waste. 2|000003|rebecca|08-04-99|Where are they now?|I think I know where sophie is:http://www.colba.net/~soff/only a hunch, though - it could be another girl with the same name and speaks french.. 2|000003|rawr|08-06-99|Where are they now?|Does anyone know where charli went?She was at esela.com/~charli/ or something for awhile..geez, I agree... lots of people I knew in the past have.. disappeared! All life's answers are on TV. ICQ: 41745765 3|000023|rawr|08-06-99|Is it just me...|I agree, Rebecca.. and yet we all wasted most of our summers on the computer. :P 2|000003|cecile|08-07-99|Where are they now?|calli's still online a lot, although she no longer maintains a page. we chat often on icq. most of the time she chats with her real life friends on irc and stuff... and on icq too. allison's also got a page still. i rediscovered it yesterday. www.geocities.com/~lydialovely/ and *i* am at aliennachos.com/cile hehe so i'm not a goddess,but i do have a site! 3|000023|cecile|08-07-99|Is it just me...|i have to agree. four months more and the year is over...it's way too fast for me. before you know it,you're done with college and it's time to look for work. scary. 4|000004|cecile|08-07-99|Guys are shitty|i don't think guys are shitty either. i have one girl best friend and the rest of my good friends are guys. i find it easier to get along with them and there isn't much pressure to act this way or to wear these clothes or the other things that girls look at. no one has nasty things to say about you. anyway, i enjoy guys' company more because it's more fun; they're easygoing and you feel like you don't have to put up a front or to wear a mask to be accepted with them. besides that, they're terribly funny too. i think that some guys just need to grow up a bit. i'm not saying that i'm the most mature person on earth, but sometimes you need to give them time to grow as people. well, that's what i noticed anyway. give him a couple more years and look and see if he still acts that way. um, that was my two centavos worth. http://aliennachos.com/cile 4|000018|cecile|08-07-99|thin thoughts|all fashion magazines focus on are diets, how to get thin, how to stay thin and all of that but they never think about the girls who are underweight and are desperately trying to gain needed weight.i am asian, i am 5'1/2" and i am all of 79 lbs. most of you must be shocked by now. yes, i am underweight. i need about ten pounds to be normal.i'm healthy... and what i mean by healthy is that i don't get sick easily or anything. and my build is very slender, and "willowy" as someone on this board put it. long and thin, that's me. but then i'm short. i'm not stocky, thank God for that. its all long and skinny and THIN..so very thin. so anyway, my parents are sending me to a nutritionist. they want me to gain weight, and i do too. eat lots of dairy products, drink lots of milk, eat anything you want. those are my instructions. i don't really pay attention to what i eat and i've always been underweight... and i don't have that much enthusiasm towards eating. it's not that i want to stay this way, it's just that it has been in my nature to be this way.um, did i veer off-topic? anyway, let me answer the questions:how thin is too thin? -- I don't know. i guess when you pass out and stuff...do you think you're fat - heck, NO!do you try to eat healthy and exercise - nope.is your weight important to you? - yes and no. i'm trying to gain weight right now so yes, it is important, but if i do gain weight i won't watch it so much...i'd just like to keep it at a good level and hopefully not lose any pounds.do you have to work at keeping a low weight? - no, they seem to disappear by themselves. http://aliennachos.com/cile 4|000019|cecile|08-07-99|Suggestions?|BIRD BY BIRD, SOME INSTRUCTIONS ON WRITING AND LIFE by Anne LamottI'm just in the second chapter and i already know this is going to be a fabulous book. It's about writing and how to get around writing... and the way she explains how and what to do and where to start and everything, it's just great. Everyone should go read this, especially people who write. http://aliennachos.com/cile 4|000018|AyA|08-10-99|thin thoughts|i'm little. not as little as a lot of people, but for some reason, everyone seems to think they have to point out my smallness when i'm in a large group of people.this makes me uncomfortable.i'm barely 5'0", just under 100 pounds most of the time. (yes.. it changes.. i'm bulimic.)i'm italian, so most of my family loves to try and pinch the fat on my sides, and say "hey, you need to gain some weight."i wish round was back in fashion. le sigh.» jenna http://members.tripod.com/ayahaze lovelove. 2|000003|cecile|08-10-99|Where are they now?|and i again, am pretty pissed. aliennachos is down for about the Nth time...so i moved, finally. http://silverillusions.com/cile http://silverillusions.com/star 2|000003|cecile|08-10-99|Where are they now?|im really getting stupid. http://silverillusions.com/star STAR. not cile. stupid girl.sorry, im really pissed right now. hmph. http://silverillusions.com/star 2|000003|cecile|08-10-99|Where are they now?|aaah, ignore me. :p it's a phase. http://aliennachos.com.cile 3|000024|southern gurl|08-11-99|wake up people!|I for sure don't see no sparks flying in this pubb.......it's dead.....wake up people! someone start a discussion up! 1|000018|Shannon|08-11-99|NEW POST!|Hmmph, fail? me? neh. 2|000003|spitfire|08-11-99|Where are they now?|Anyone remember Maureen? From Singapore or the Philipines? She was on delish, I think. She always had some innovative designs.Also, anyone remember this online journal called "Letters to Myself"? I think she was Canadian and it was published anonymously, but for some reason I always thought she was really Heddy of Necessary Narcissism. 4|000020|spitfire|08-11-99|Blair Witch Project|Okay, it's almost been one month since I've seen it and I STILL get goosebumps, even discussing it with my fellow friends and co-workers. If the trailer is on teevee, I switch to another channel. I can't watch the interviews. I don't even go to the numerous boards about BWP because I get that oh-so-creepy feeling in the back of my neck. I don't think it's the scariest movie of all time (The Excorcist still ranks #1), but it's definitely the creepiest. 3|000025|spitfire|08-11-99|List and rank 'em!|Okay, I'm bored. Let's try a nice, safe, and generic topic: What summer movies have you seen thus far? And how would you rank them on a scale of 1 to 5 (5 being Hell yeah! and 1 being I'd rather be at work!).Normally, I average 3 movies a year, but since moving out here, I've upped my average considerably.South Park - 3.5Blair Witch Project - 4American Pie - 4.5Eyes Wide Shut - 2.5 (anyone have Stanley's Cliff Notes?)An Ideal Husband - 3.5Dick - 3.5 3|000025|renee|08-12-99|List and rank 'em!|South Park - 5The Mummy - 1½ (the added ½ was for Brendan Fraser)The Matrix - 4½ (it didn't affect me as much as the SP movie did)And that's about it. I am one with no life, less money to blow on movies, and the movies down here are latecomers compared to those in the US.*hugsie* 3|000025|southern gurl|08-12-99|List and rank 'em!|The movies here are latecomers too. I know I've seen more movies than this, I just have a bad memory. Anyway, here goes.Tarzan - 4.0Big Daddy - 3.5The Sixth Sense - 5!Runaway Bride - 4.5 3|000025|southern gurl|08-16-99|List and rank 'em!|Gotta add one. I saw Bowfinger last night. I give it a 3.75 out of 5. It was funny, but not laugh-till-you-cry funny. 3|000025|Claire|08-16-99|List and rank 'em!|I only saw the Blair Witch Project... i don't see movies too often. I'll give it a 3.5 It was definitely not as good as I thought it would be, but it was better than so many other movies out there these days. http://www.northcoast.com/~mtaylor/ 3|000022|cecile|08-16-99|Yawn|i agree, it is quite lonely in here.i wish people would start talking in here. i find that this is the most decent ubb....but the thing is, it's dead right now. http://aliennachos.com/cile 3|000026|renee|08-18-99|Bad bad computer thing...|If you receive an email with an attachment called "Pretty Park.exe", delete both the email and the program. If you're using a web-based email system, don't download the program. It's not exaclty a virus, but it's a very annoying spamming worm/virus.Believe me when I say this is not a hoax. I've done the research on it. If you wish to receive more information, email me at angelique54@excite.com and ask for a copy of the "Layman's Guide" to be emailed to you.*hugsie* 3|000027|southern gurl|08-23-99|George W. Bush|Okay, people, what do you think? Should he be ridiculed because he may have done drugs 20-something years ago? Should he not be President?I think it is kinda stupid for the press to make this such a big deal. If EVERY politician had to have a perfect background to run or to be a politician no one would ever make it.I admire George W. Bush for admitting that he messed up in the past. He is human ya know, just like everyone else. 3|000027|Shannon|08-24-99|George W. Bush|I personally admire him a little more for admitting it rather than leading us down that familiar path of "oh no, not me!"This is not the way home http://www.restless.org/cellulite 4|000026|Sam|08-24-99|Jail|Do you think that when someone is released from jail that they are really "fixed" ready for society? "The fastest way to currupt a man is to teach him to esteem more highly those who think alike then those who think differently" 4|000018|Sam|08-24-99|thin thoughts|AyA-- I have one question for you? You said you are belimic. My question is do you have a ritutual like thing that you do after you have done the deed? As for me. My body? Happy isn't even in my vocab. I am what 90% of people call fat. It is hell, getting the weird looks. I should say was fat. I am still but I am a new demention of fat. Did you relaize there is FAT and there is fat. I was FAT and not I am fat. Does that make any sence? I was obese. I developed a depression folowed by a eating disorder, and now a year later and 100lbs less I am fat. Not average fat. I am 6'1 and 210pounds. I double the weight of most of my friends but you know what? My doctor says I should stay at this weight it is a good one..... but if you eat....the weight will come back. So I think that the reason I am saying this is that most teenagers of either sex are not happy with there bodys weather they are weight 78poundss or 200..... (now Ifeel FAT)...I think that magazines really need to get the average body shown on stage. you know sizes 6-10 at leased. that is very small still to me but more people would be happy. As for my favorite part of my body.......my grey eyes that change color and my spiked hair. Arn't you people glad I joind the board *lol*"The fastest way to currupt a man is to teach him to esteem more highly those who think alike then those who think differently" 4|000004|Sam|08-24-99|Guys are shitty|it is really simple.if you don't undersatand him, don't date him"The fastest way to currupt a man is to teach him to esteem more highly those who think alike then those who think differently" 3|000022|Sam|08-24-99|Yawn|It is simple. We simply need more sections. Like rants or something. Annoying stuff. Everyone gets annoyed what not a section ot rantabout it.... or something. music...everyone likes music.... new sections. "The fastest way to currupt a man is to teach him to esteem more highly those who think alike then those who think differently" 3|000027|southern gurl|08-24-99|George W. Bush|I bet 3 out of 4 politicians did drugs or drank underage in college or when they were younger. 3|000028|Sam|08-24-99|BAD DRIVERS!|I was driving to other day this person was in a merge lane, I came up behind him and he was sitting there at a complete stop with his signal light on.......AGHGGGGGGGGGGG...some people should never be given a drivers licence?!!!have anyone of you met retards such as this?"The fastest way to currupt a man is to teach him to esteem more highly those who think alike then those who think differently" 3|000027|jeff|08-25-99|George W. Bush|I applaud him for admitting that he messed up in the past. That's part of politics, though. Everyone tries to degrade everyone to gather votes. Clinton also did drugs when he was young. "Beer: Helping ugly people have sex since 1862!" 3|000025|Sam|08-26-99|List and rank 'em!|The mummy - 4Matrix- 3.513th Floor 5Notting Hill - 3.5Big Daddy - 4Blair Witch Project - 3 6th Sence - 5The Thomas Crown Affair - 4.5 3|000027|camy|08-26-99|George W. Bush|heh.politicians and drugs is such a tittilating topic. "oh yes i...i shot some smack when i was a young immature dude. buttt. now that im an old "wise" little politician I DONT DO IT ANYMORE! see what a great person i am?! i just want you to like me for admitting that and putting me in your good books of honesty. then i'll go home and bask in the glory that i now have more public acceptance for being oh-so-truthful and i'll celebrate by snorting whatever i can find up my punctured ol' nose. hooray for sneaky me."hmm...another little tidbit of info:why is marijuana still illegal? in my _personal_ opinion because the profit of trafficking drugs is the fuel that keeps the state running. politics and drug traffic go hand in hand. what do you think makes 'em sustain that jolly and nice mask when theyre out meeting people [promoting themselves] when theyre actually thinking inside of more ways to exploit? why. the answer is obvious. and that's um a tad sick? hypocritical?typical?all the government people are complete lying bastards seeking your approval through little tricks just to further screw you/us over even more.and theyre all connected as well.thank you im done. 3|000027|southern gurl|08-26-99|George W. Bush|Do I sense a bit of hostility towards politicians? Don't get me wrong, I do think most politicians are cheaters, but not all of them. And I'm not going to get so excited over it. It isn't worth it. 4|000026|southern gurl|08-26-99|Jail|Every situation is different. 3|000025|Claire|08-26-99|List and rank 'em!|Mystery Men - 2 1/2Brokedown Palace - 4 1/2That's still only 3 movies for me this summer... my sister & friends saw Sixth Sence & all thought it was really great. http://www.northcoast.com/~mtaylor/ 3|000025|southern gurl|08-26-99|List and rank 'em!|Oh, someone who's seen Brokedown Palace! Did ya like it? I saw the previews for it when I watched Runaway Bride and it looked really good!There are like so many movies I want to see; American Pie, Brokedown Palace, The 13th Warrior, & one other one, but I can't think what it is....anyway, I just can't find the time for them!Anybody else have this problem? 3|000028|capsize|08-26-99|BAD DRIVERS!|At least the guy was using a turn signal. We consider that a rarity around here. The police officers don't even use them. There are people who stick their hands out of the window to point out their direction, but they always leave you wondering if they're actually going to turn or if their air conditioning broke and they're trying to cool their arm down. 3|000025|Claire|08-26-99|List and rank 'em!|Yeah... Brokedown Palace was pretty good... The ending came as a surprise to me. I have time to see movies (well... not as much now that I'm taking more classes in college), but I never have any money. I didn't have to pay for the last two movies I saw. http://www.northcoast.com/~mtaylor/ 3|000028|Sam|08-26-99|BAD DRIVERS!|That would so severly annoy the snot right out of me. I would then in turn drive like a American (sorry saying from us Canadians)... 4|000026|Sam|08-26-99|Jail|Every situation is different you are right about that but have you seen any positive ones? Negitive? 4|000026|Melissa|08-27-99|Jail|I get virulent on the topic of jail because I associate it with capital punishment, and I couldn't have a stronger opinion on anything else than that.Jail is capable of both "fixing" people and numbing people... you can walk out of your cell and into the world scared to ever go back and seeing the "fault" of your past habits.. or you can walk out thinking and feeling nothing except "I don't give a shit about anything or anyone."What causes either outcome? I don't know. I just know that it's never been a surefire cure for whatever got you there in the first place.FRYBREAD POWER 3|000025|Melissa|08-27-99|List and rank 'em!|I've only seen two movies at theaters in 1999 ... The Mummy and Blair Witch.I saw the Mummy purely for Brendan (old habits die hard) but I was pleasantly surprised to find I was quite frightened. It's not a realistic movie, but it's not supposed to be. Indeed, I liked it a lot. I give it a 5.Blair was the same, it lived up to my expectations and then some, so another 5.I'm just so cultured and variable, you know. Right on top of everything.FRYBREAD POWER 1|000019|Melissa|08-27-99|Suggestions|I haven't found any good collaborative domains in forever. I'm not talking about domains that are one person's personal site or domains that are homes to the owner and other people, but domains like... hell, I don't know.... domains that have some sort of content and may or may not be home to a personal site. Are there any good new ones? I'm never in the loop with anything and I'm the last to discover the good stuff.FRYBREAD POWER 1|000019|Shannon|08-27-99|Suggestions|Yup, you may know about this place already but.. http://sothere.com/ This is not the way home http://www.restless.org/cellulite 3|000025|spitfire|08-27-99|List and rank 'em!|The Sixth Sense - 4Nice little twist to it. 4|000018|Skye|08-29-99|thin thoughts|I'm one of those people with fat cheeks and slender bodies. Moon faced, I think. If I wear baggy clothes, I look overweight. If I wear tight clothes, I tend to look like I'm about to tumble over from the weight of my head. (A human lollipop might be an apt description ) So I guess it's just all about proportion and the way you project your image of yourself (i.e., clothes, deceiving make-up, etc.) that influence people's ideas of your actual dimensions. Nude camp dwellers need not worry, though. 1|000019|cyn|09-01-99|Suggestions|There's a list of collaborative type sites/domains at glassdog.net . terabithia.net 2|000003|maryjane|09-01-99|Where are they now?|Rebecca (and everyone else), you were right, I'm the Sophie you think (who did you think it was? the new Princess? ;0). You had the good adress. :0)---She's a professional fag-hag.http://www.colba.net/~soff 1|000019|Melissa|09-02-99|Suggestions|Thanks. : ) I've been to sothere.com once upon a time, but I forgot it existed! Thanks for reminding me. And thanks for the list, Cyn.FRYBREAD POWER 4|000027|Clarity|09-04-99|First Day O' School|Anyone care to discuss/describe their first day of school? 4|000027|Shannon|09-05-99|First Day O' School|My first day back from the holidays was fairly good. I rushed around trying to buy text books and figuring out the "books I need NOW" and the "books I can buy in a few weeks" thing and basically wondered around confused. My first day back was weeks ago now..whah. How was your first day?.This is not the way home http://www.restless.org/cellulite 4|000027|spitfire|09-05-99|First Day O' School|First day of kindergarten, I think I cried for my Mother.First day of junior high, I felt timid and unsure.First day of high school, I thought I was so cool (ha!).First day of college, I was thinking, "Free at last!"I've been out for over a year....and now I'm thinking of taking a class at one of the CCs in preparation for the big one (as in Master's! ack!!), so goodness knows how that first day will be like, going back to school :x 2|000003|olivia|09-06-99|Where are they now?|Sophie was here!! Sophie was here!!Wow, now I feel like laying out the red carpet. :P 4|000027|southern gurl|09-06-99|First Day O' School|I cried the first day of school up until 6th grade. Then, I refused to. Junior high was fine because I went to small private school and highschool was Homeschool, so the first day of school was always good. 4|000027|Shannon|09-06-99|First Day O' School|What about now? do you still go to school? 4|000027|southern gurl|09-07-99|First Day O' School|No, I graduated. I'm finished with school. For now anyway. I'd like to go back, but for now I'm going to stick to my work. 4|000027|Shannon|09-09-99|First Day O' School|I've finished high school but now I have uni. Was it hard to get your job Southern Gurl?desex your cat. www.restless.org/cellulite 4|000027|southern gurl|09-09-99|First Day O' School|Nope, not at all. The opportunity arose and I took it. I'm sure not everyone finds a job as easy I did though. 3|000029|AK404|09-18-99|Been awhile hasn't it?|Anyone have an opinion on Oreos? Do you eat the cookie altogether, lick the cream first, then eat the cookie, or do you not like Oreos period?Personally, I just eat the whole thing.Yeah, 'twas an insignificant, inspid post. 1|000020|Ducky|09-19-99|Rebecca at midspark?|I'm new around here (heard about this ubb from the cellulite one) and thought I could find someone I've been wondering about. I know midspark is down, but could someone tell me where Rebecca disappeared off to? Her site was called Pieces, and the journal called Adagio. And is midspark coming back anytime soon? 2|000002|paul b|09-20-99|MP3s|does any one know where i can get good web sites that show ftp servers or anyone that has an ftp servercould you please send this to mei would appreciate it if some one could e-mail me with this infoblade_zero69@hotmail.comTHNX 1|000020|olivia|09-24-99|Rebecca at midspark?|I'm not sure where Rebecca's page is now. Her e-mail address is peka@att.net, if you'd like to contact her.And I have no idea when I'll get Midspark up and running again. I have plans for what I want it to be, but I don't have the time to get it started. 3|000029|Sam|09-29-99|Been awhile hasn't it?|I take all the cream off eat the shells then the cream. It is much better that way. The shells are the gross part. Unless you have milk to dunk, in that case you eat it whole. "The fastest way to currupt a man is to teach him to esteem more highly those who think alike then those who think differently" 4|000013|Sam|10-03-99|let's be honest|"Everyday, people are straying from the Church, and turning towards God."My pastor even said that quote. In churches you find 3 different kinds of people. 1) Honest Heart felt Believers who are striving for a better relationshiop with God. 2) Buisness Men/Women making the Church run, getting money, and cirulating it, keeping thier jobs. 3) Wanna-be, I have tolook good, I am ok, I am going to heavon, wasting a seat fence sitters. And I none of the above, because I left the brain washing church and took a step closer to God. My Religion isn Mine. I have an amazing relationship with God and my church says I am going to hell, because (oh could it be they arn't getting any money from me??) I am not attending. My pator says God doesn't care about a building, he cares about you. So I got away from the decepticon of the church, and now I am comfotable with the idea of dying. Death is the most beautiull thing. When it happens naturally. "The fastest way to currupt a man is to teach him to esteem more highly those who think alike then those who think differently" 2|000018|StephanE|10-03-99|this UBB is not dead|It's not. Right?Right. 3|000029|StephanE|10-03-99|Been awhile hasn't it?|I eat it all together. I used to twist (remember that commericial with the boys twisting oreos?), but now I find it more enjoyable to eat it whole-with milk, preferably. 3|000030|StephanE|10-03-99|music is my savior|A cheesy topic, but somebody has to do it. What are your favorite bands everybody? Agree/Disagree/Rant/Ramble/Enthusiastically nod your head!My favorites are:SemisonicBen Folds FiveBlurPulpThey Might Be Giantssome Radiohead, but I haven't listened enough to know yet. 2|000019|StephanE|10-03-99|the first time you posted|I used to be frightened and overwhelmed to post at a UBB, at first. Everybody seemed to know each other and I wasn't sure if I could keep up. Silly, I know. The first time I made my own topic was a daunting task, too. I didn't want to sound stupid and I didn't want to have 0 replies, either. My first UBB post and topic were at Plastique.org. Reminiscing is nice... 3|000030|spitfire|10-03-99|music is my savior|Since it's just bands.....Better Than Ezra.Cowboy Mouth.Better Than Ezra.Barenaked Ladies.Better Than Ezra. 2|000019|Clarity|10-03-99|the first time you posted|I used to be that way too. In fact, I still am. I never post on UBBs with the exception of here, midspark. I think that once there's a ton of registered users at a UBB and they get together in little clumps of friendships, I feel a little awkward imposing upon them by making my own conversation. I've always been insecure like that, online and off. But yeah, UBB posting is nice. I like it when people reply to my subjects too, rarely as I have them. 2|000018|Clarity|10-03-99|this UBB is not dead|RIGHT. I think we all have a major lurking complex and fail to come up with our own posts to get conversations going. 3|000030|Clarity|10-03-99|music is my savior|I could never list all my favorite musicians in one little box. I like so many artists. At the moment I've been bopping to trendy pop music, but I have a deep-rooted appreciation for Jonny Lang. And I grew up listening to Debbie Gibson, Tiffany (*sings* I think we're alone now, there doesn't seem to be anyone around), the Eurythmics, and Stevie Wonder. I love all of them, but my CD collection is vast and indescribable. I love music. 3|000029|Clarity|10-03-99|Been awhile hasn't it?|I get a mug of milk and I dunk them until they're nice and soggy, but not to the point of falling apart. Oreos are good. I like the Double Stuff Oreos. And the Halloween orange ones.Anyone remember that commercial where the dad is teaching his little boy how to eat an Oreo and at the end of the commercial, the dad goes, "Now all we have to do is teach you how to tie your shoes and you'll be all set..." It's SUCH a cute commercial. 4|000013|Mir|10-04-99|let's be honest|sorry to jump in without introduction, but i can't help it.i'm a christian. i have found God and rethought so many things i assumed were right. it was not necessary for me to leave my church to do this. it was not necessary to forget my religion to do this. yes, some things in Christianity can be screwed up - it's got to do with the fact that we're humans.no matter what churches may have told you or impressions you have, in the true Biblical Christianity there is no "conditional condemnation"... meaning you don't go to hell because you're gay, because you don't go to church, because you don't follow rules. hell is a real thing. you go to hell because you a) are imperfect b) have chosen not to be saved. saved isn't just a Christianese term. it means to be SAVED. from ourselves. ourselves... we're so backwards that we can't survive. we don't deserve to be saved, but we are.this is where people would call this post fire and brimstone and a vengeful God and blah blah blah. God created us. gave us life. gave us a chance. yet daily we forget him, push him aside, live for ourselves. we are a sickening people.but we are loved.we don't have to do anything to be loved, we just are. we are loved so much that we can be saved from ourselves.if we choose to accept it.and that's where all the "Jesus stuff" is, i suppose. God sent a facet of himself to earth to experience being a human, then be killed as a symbol of sacrifice for our sins. why is this important? it gives us forgiveness of what we have done wrong, what we are doing wrong, and what we will ever do wrong... by the One who loves us most.i hope someone gives these thoughts a chance. i'm sorry i didn't include any verse references, but all of it has come from Bible study.a spiritual being that gives us a heaven that makes us smile when mentioned during eulogies is not all that great as you would expect. without being actually greater than us enough that was must give ourselves up to it... it would have no real power. if that's what god was, any human could be god. God Himself is inconcievable.once again, sorry for rambling, sorry for being a stranger you dont' care about intruding on an conversation, but there were some key things left out and the conversation seemed open to all beliefs. so there's mine. 4|000013|Mir|10-04-99|let's be honest|since i probably won't be a regular here, anyone want to talk about this, my im is mirmoo, my e-mail is bhris@yahoo.com. thanks for reading, seriously. 2|000018|Melissa|10-04-99|this UBB is not dead|It's just so damn cute, I don't want it to die. 3|000030|Melissa|10-04-99|music is my savior|I saw Semisonic live in Orlando at a radio station festival. The lead singer yelled when he got wet. Then he said we weren't impressed by the drummer because we all have retarded third cousins who can drum and play keyboard at the same time. I found that funny.They Might Be Giants! I have Flood and John Henry. They're hard to find around here. I love Flood immensely and John Henry not much at all. They're wonderful. Recommend any other albums I should get? I was looking at their 2-CD set.How many times can I say it? Collective Soul is number one for me. FRYBREAD POWER 3|000029|Melissa|10-04-99|Been awhile hasn't it?|I worry about my teeth when I eat Oreos. I don't want to smile inadvertantly and have black gunk everywhere I separate the two cookies, trying to get all the cream on one side. I'm highly ticked when I botch the job and have half-n-half. Then I eat the cream off the one side, taking great care not to scrap my teeth on the cookie part. Then I eat the cookies and wash it down with ice water.Too ritualistic? There's going to be a small woodland creature involved at some point, I can feel it.FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 1|000021|Melissa|10-04-99|Can't see the Rebecca post|Hmmm. Don't know why.FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 1|000022|Melissa|10-04-99|What would you name it?|Having a domain, should I someday feel like a site of mine merits ownership of one, is an idea I've tinkered with. However, unless they start offering them free, I'm too cheap to spend money on anything to do with site-making. This is why I use such old graphics programs My point, however. What would you name it, if you got one? I've always been partial to anything with "saline" in it.. saline.net, saline.com ... crown.org. I don't know. How about you? (Personally, I think midspark is a great name)FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 1|000022|Shannon|10-04-99|What would you name it?|Yay Melissa Okay, well I would have to say Cellulite.org. However that is sadly taken by one of those evil "this will rid you of cellulite" type companies. Exactly the thing the title of my webpage title is against.After that I've always liked intrinsic and repressed.desex your cat. www.restless.org/cellulite 1|000023|Shannon|10-04-99|What's happening with Midspark?|Come on let me see some content! 4|000013|Steve Lender|10-04-99|let's be honest|Damned proselytizers.Might as well knock on my door, or hang pamphlets from my windshield wiper.To blindly believe that because the one religion you've dedicated all of your time upon is the correct one, and the only one, is nothing short of dimwitted. Had you spent your time learning Babylonian religions faithfully, would you then not lean completely toward Marduk making the world out of the guts of his opponent...whatsername? If you stepped in front of a buffet, would you choose the first selection as the only food that there can be, and ignore the rest of the possibilities offered by the buffet? 3|000029|Steve Lender|10-04-99|Been awhile hasn't it?|I like to get those double stuff ones and twist them apart such that only one side as cream. To two cookies I do this, and then press together the two creamy halves, thus creating the quadruple stuff Oreo. If you're sly, you can actually just peel up the stuff from the Oreo half, and then slip it between the two afore mentioned halves, creating the unthinkable sextuple stuff. 3|000030|Steve Lender|10-04-99|music is my savior|They Might Be Giants, they kick ass, don't they? Probably the most under-rated band ever. I've Lincoln, Flood, Apollo 18, Factory Showroom, and the double set...the name of it escapes me at the moment. The double is quite worth it, as it has become difficult to find the singles that they included on it. And that first album of theirs is really cool, also in the double set. As a cute little bonus, there's a recording, done by children, of Particle Man. 2|000018|Steve Lender|10-04-99|this UBB is not dead|I'm here. I just have nothing constructive to add most of the time. I'm feeling a little bitter and mean, and I can't seem to stop myself from enjoying it...and I know that not everyone else does.That said, let me just add that the world is completely and entirely populated by morons and idiots. Myself included. We're doomed.But don't worry, I'm sure that TV will make it all better. And new products that are supposed to make our lives all the better, if you can afford them. Meanwhile, dogs and cats are being snuffed in pounds all over the world; innocent victims of our selfishness. And tires are being used at an alarming rate. And staples just aren't made of the sturdy metal that they once were.Boy, when I crack, it's sure going to be weird. 2|000019|Steve Lender|10-04-99|the first time you posted|I used to worry that I might break some unseen etiquette. I might use profanity when it wasn't acceptable, or I might not use enough emoticons. Or people would get annoyed by my constant efforts to take the opposite stance to anything anyone said.But, ya know? Fuck it. 1|000023|Steve Lender|10-04-99|What's happening with Midspark?|You show me your content, and I'll show you mine. 1|000022|Steve Lender|10-04-99|What would you name it?|locutusofb.orgslice.netwaterproof.netallanal.netstab.netcoldslab.netsignal.netbonzo.netbugbite.netdrag.netink.netles-regates-a-satanville.net 2|000019|Shannon|10-04-99|the first time you posted|I felt intimidated the first time I posted at a ubb which was back at Delish. It can seem like people are in clumps of friendships but once you actually start posting it becomes a lot of fun I love ubbs.desex your cat. www.restless.org/cellulite 3|000029|Shannon|10-04-99|Been awhile hasn't it?|We don't have oreos over here desex your cat. www.restless.org/cellulite 1|000021|Shannon|10-05-99|Can't see the Rebecca post|Me neither - the same thing happens at my board too from time to time (the post will just be all blank) strange indeed.desex your cat. www.restless.org/cellulite 2|000018|Shannon|10-05-99|this UBB is not dead|I think that a bit of life has been stirred in the good ole midspark board over the last couple of days. It was on the critical list though!desex your cat. www.restless.org/cellulite 1|000022|StephanE|10-05-99|What would you name it?|Well, hmm...www.starlinsk.com. I would choose www.stephanie.com (unoriginal, yes, but oh well), but unfortunately, that's a porn site, so...there goes that domain name for me. 2|000019|StephanE|10-05-99|the first time you posted|I never really make a name for myself at UBBs. This is getting easier with time, but I used to have a tough time voicing my own opinions, because as you all might now-some people on the net can be easily offended and sarcasm doesn't usually come out the best on boards. Oh, well. I'm fine now. My responses to posts were usually very "yeah, I know" or "please don't be offended, but..." and I didn't have anything else to say that would carry on the topic any better. At midspark, I don't feel those little clumps of friendship as much, Clarity. Topics started by any person usually gets fairly good responses, while on some boards I've been in, people only respond to his/her friend and never any other people. Kind of like in real life. 2|000019|Shannon|10-05-99|the first time you posted|Stephanie - I think that's one of the joys of small boards. At large boards it's possible for people to only reply to threads that are started by their friends because of the sheer volume of people. If people try doing that at small boards then the board will eventually die.I like your posts 3|000030|Claire|10-05-99|music is my savior|I'm trying to branch out because I listen to way too much pop (though I don't hate it... too much of it can definitely rot your brain). My fave bands are:Ben Folds FiveCakeBetter Than EzraThird Eye Blindand a bunch of others... I just need to hear more music. BFF is my favorite at the moment by far, though. I could listen to their CDs all day. http://www.northcoast.com/~mtaylor/ 2|000019|Claire|10-05-99|the first time you posted|I just never really have anything interesting to say... but if I needed something I know I could go to a UBB and ask. I think I've only started one or two threads... I mostly just go to the web and reviews sections and see who's reviewing websites and if I can help anyone with their page. This is the best UBB, though. I like how quiet it is... the Cellulite boards are good, too, Shannon. I think it's good to have both kinds, though. Sometimes you need a larger group of people. But, yeah, I feel like I have less people looking down on me here, which is nice. http://www.northcoast.com/~mtaylor/ 2|000019|Melissa|10-05-99|the first time you posted|I'm trying to post everytime I come to the UBB or at least start a new thread. It's my vow, damnit. But I've been sick, and still am, so I'm going to bed soon and will not be up to my full thread-creating potential.The first UBB I ever posted on was Delish .. snicker. I had no problem posting there because I enjoyed harassing the pyschopaths there, thus giving me an (unjustified?) superiority complex because I was sane.FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 2|000019|Claire|10-06-99|the first time you posted|Aww.. I'm sorry you're sick Melissa. I'm sick, too. It's making it nearly impossible to get any school work done. The first time I posted was at Delish, too. That was so long ago... http://www.northcoast.com/~mtaylor/ 4|000013|Mir|10-06-99|let's be honest|thanks for assuming what you do not know. i've tried my hardest to learn what other religions are about. i'm no expert, but i've at least explored. give me some credit, please. you know nothing about my life from what i posted.only reason i posted is that i didn't think Christianity had had a thorough representation. 2|000019|Melissa|10-06-99|the first time you posted|Them were the days, weren't they, Claire? I feel like an oldtimer. And I'm only a mere eighteen. Tsk.I'm medicated and ready to go. Gonna do my best to whip up some threads in this here UBB. Don't ask me why I'm so animated; I just hope the pills won't erode my creativity.Anyone know where all those "Delish" girls went to? I find it hard to keep track, because half of them were on one alias or another the whole time. I enjoyed the pages of a couple of the people who were hosted there, although I sadly can't say that for all of them. Claire, do you remember that Sugalove chick? Oooh, and sunsets.net, that domain that was up for a little while. Good God, the memories. I'm both cringing and laughing.FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 4|000028|Melissa|10-06-99|skeletons in the closet|I know everyone has something related to "pop culture" that they tend not to advertise. Secret fetishes and the like. Besides, there's safety in numbers! I'll go first.I think I'm going to start greeting people with, "Hi, I'm Melissa. I'm 18 year old soon to be college student. I like Buffy and Xena. You?" I also used to have a teenybopper crush on Jonathan Brandis. Sadly, this lasted for four years, until I became a freshman. Shudder. At least most people have forgotten who he is. I will watch a Backstreet Boys or Britney Spears video on the dreaded MTV if it's on and I'm bored stiff. I dislike them both, but I think it's the dancing I'm paying attention to, because my sister dances competitively and I'm at the studio a lot. (Excuses!) This means I know almost all the words to the current/past singles. I can also name each member of BSB and 'N Sync (used to watch MMC back in the day) and sing lyrics to Milli Vanilli and Vanilla Ice with glee.Oh, and I'm a sucker for the WB. I'll watch Dawson's Creek and Charmed and Felicity without regard to health or prosperity.FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 4|000013|Melissa|10-06-99|let's be honest|I'm a Christian, technically, I guess. I'm scared of Catholics and believe in God, so I'm going to stay where I am, whether I agree with everything Christianity is about.I don't go to church, and my knowledge of the Bible is woefully lacking (I have a clue what's going on, but don't ask me to name the disciples or quote scripture).So, I believe in heaven, so to speak. I believe in an afterlife. I can't spell it out, but I believe in one. When I die, barring murdering or any sort of evil tendency on my part, I'd like to think I'll be granted access. I'm not scared to die because I don't believe I'll go to hell if I do. I don't want to die, that's for sure, and I might be pretty pissed off about doing it, but I'm not scared now. This doesn't mean I take risks to speed the process along, but I don't walk down the street quaking in fear that my ticket is going to be punched.FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 3|000031|Melissa|10-06-99|opinions|Even though I haven't been in Theory of Knowledge class since May, I still want to bring this one up: are all opinions equally valid? Note that I don't mean do all opinions have a right to be had and expressed, but valid. I, for one, don't think so. FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 4|000028|southern gurl|10-07-99|skeletons in the closet|I use to have a huge crush as a teenybopper on Joey McIntyre of NKOTB. Gawd, I loved him. I still have a page in my scrapbook dedicated to him *L*Oh, and I'll admit that I bought the first Hanson cd. I hate them...because everything that went along with their group..but I thought some of their songs were cute.And and call me shallow, silly, or crazy but I can't help but smile everytime I see Ricky Martin. I think he is like the fines guy in the celebrity world right now. He doesn't sing too bad either. No, I don't want him....he's just so darn cute! 4|000013|Steve Lender|10-07-99|let's be honest|Sorry, Mir, you caught me on a bad day.Who here assumes that they've chosen, amongst a universe of complications, the one true religion?Why is it that every single "christian" has an entirely different spin on their one true religion? You state that "in the true Biblical Christianity there is no 'conditional condemnation.'" But then you go on to state that "we're so backwards that we can't survive," and that we "go to hell because [we] a) are imperfect b) have chosen not to be saved."That would lead me to believe that we are conditionally condemnded because we are imperfect. I refuse to buy that.I also refuse to be saved at the cost of planting my lips on a martyr's ass. It misses the whole entire point. 3|000031|Steve Lender|10-07-99|opinions|Here's what my dictionary says.o-pin-ion1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce certainty.That would mean that an opinion's validity would only be as good as the grounds upon which it rests.So, all opinions are valid, but some are more valid than others. 2|000019|Claire|10-07-99|the first time you posted|No, I didn't really keep up with them either. At one point, fairly recently, a lot of them posted on the plastique board... but that's down, too, so I can't go back to look at it for reference. As far as I know Calli hasn't updated her page in ages. Olivia of spew was involved in Laundromatic... so she might be contacted through that, which I believe is located at http://laundromat.brokentoy.com/ and had a page at pseud.com. Jayme hasn't had a page in awhile. Maya's page is at http://www.aliennachos.com/cile , I believe. Those are the only ones I really remember off the top of my head. In that UBB post, though, they were talking about bringing Delish back and had Calli's blessing... but I don't think anything ever came of it.I know, doesn't that all just seem like ages ago? I'm nineteen... I feel old compared to many of the teens who make pages these days. I usually relate to them better, though, than to people a few years older than me. Not sure why that is... probably because I somewhat missed out on things during my teenage years because I was homeschooled... anyways... (c: I don't remember a lot of the names of the people. I pretty much only lurked in the domain and web areas of the board. I don't remember that domain, either. I haven't gotten into too many domains. Most seem to cliquey, as if that's the whole point to having a domain. *shrug* http://www.northcoast.com/~mtaylor/ 4|000028|Claire|10-07-99|skeletons in the closet|Oh, oh, oh! I had a crush on Joey McIntyre too... eesh, I was, like, 8. I used to watch MMC, too. We got rid of our cable for awhile, too, so I saw the first season or 2, and then was able to watch again for the last 2 seasons. I watched at another girls house sometimes, too. I watched way too much TV when I was little... probably has a lot to do with why I watch so much now. I had a whole cartoon regiment... couldn't name them all if I tried. A lot of Hanna Barbara stuff on USA's Cartoon Network thing. I watched Nickelodeon a lot, too... especially "You Can't Do That on Television" I could go on about that for pages... so I'll stop now.I feel like I should introduce myself with my age, too... but only because nearly everyone thinks I'm 15, not 19. http://www.northcoast.com/~mtaylor/ 4|000013|Claire|10-07-99|let's be honest|I'm not a "typical" Christian, either. I was baptized Catholic and went to church and a Catholic school through 2nd grade. I've only been to church about 5 times since then. I believe in God and Christ, thus making me a Christian. What I'm really sick of, that I have only noticed so much more in the last couple of years since I became a born-again Christian, is that so many people assume every person who calls themself a Christian is the same. My saying I am Christian automatically makes me someone who hates anyone of any other religion (or non-religion like athiesm), hates anyone who doesn't agree with my beliefs (religious or not), hates people who are homosexual, and that I am extremely close-minded. This is not true. Just because I believe in God I must be this type of person? Whatever... I have my own mind. I gladly let anyone who disagrees with me say what they want... who am I to tell them any different? Of course it would be nice if more people agreed with me, but life would be boring without conflict. I stereotype people, too... but I've been catching myself at it a lot more lately and have been trying to slow down and make sense of what I'm assuming. I am not just a Christian... I am a unique individual. K... hopefully after all of this rambling I've made some sort of point. (c: http://www.northcoast.com/~mtaylor/ 1|000023|olivia|10-07-99|What's happening with Midspark?|What's happening? Lots and lots of procrastination. I have ideas of what I'm going to put up on Midspark, but I don't really have the time I need to create anything yet or maintain what I plan to put up. 3|000030|olivia|10-07-99|music is my savior|Is Better than Ezra that good? 4|000028|southern gurl|10-08-99|skeletons in the closet|Oh I have the problem too. Just the other day I went to cash in a lottery ticket and the woman questioned whether I was 18 yet. I was like, uh yeah...I'll be 20 soon. I wasn't bad though. I'm sure I'll appreciate being mistakened for a teenybopper when I'm older.People who talk to me on the phone/e-mail/chatrooms think I'm much older than I am, but most people in my offline life say I look 15. So who knows. 4|000028|southern gurl|10-08-99|skeletons in the closet|Oh I have the problem too. Just the other day I went to cash in a lottery ticket and the woman questioned whether I was 18 yet. I was like, uh yeah...I'll be 20 soon. I wasn't bad though. I'm sure I'll appreciate being mistakened for a teenybopper when I'm older.People who talk to me on the phone/e-mail/chatrooms think I'm much older than I am, but most people in my offline life say I look 15. So who knows. 3|000030|Claire|10-08-99|music is my savior|I don't have their newest CD yet... You might like them. So far I only like 1 song each off of their 2 earlier CDs, but I still think they're a good band. http://www.northcoast.com/~mtaylor/ 4|000028|Claire|10-08-99|skeletons in the closet|EVERYONE tells me I'll love it when I'm older. Seriously. I kind of just blow that one off now because I've heard it so many times. I think they're just trying to make me feel better... *shrug*Let's see... I like the Backstreet Boys & N'Sync all right. I'm not obsessed with them or anything, though. I really don't like Britney Spears, simply because of the way she dresses and holds herself. Christina Aguilera doesn't bother me quite as much... probably because I liked her over Britney back in the MMC days. I still think neither of them need to wear such short shirts all the time and use their pelvis in every dance... http://www.northcoast.com/~mtaylor/ 2|000020|Melissa|10-08-99|javascript resources?|Anyone have favorite sites for javascripts? I've checked out most of the ones at htmlgoodies.com, but haven't really found what I wanted. I'd like to have one of those deals with a quote or line or phrase that changes each time you reload. I just haven't found a really good place for idiots like me who have trouble remembering to keep their table tags intact. FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 3|000030|spitfire|10-08-99|music is my savior|Well, I'm a bit biased since I'm originally from LA and went to LSU. I think Kevin Griffin's voice is so real and soulful. The three of them are so amazing live onstage. There's nothing pretentious and fake about them. The three of them have such amazing chemistry. You can tell they love playing live and that they appreciate their fans.I have all of their CDs (with the exception of 'Surprise' which is very rare and available only on cassette). I think their latest 'How Does Your Garden Grow?' is their best work yet.To hear some samples, visit this site:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/1538/Songs.htmlFour more days until I see them live again.... 4|000028|spitfire|10-08-99|skeletons in the closet|If I'm not wearing makeup, I get mistaken for 18 and I'm 24. Maybe I'll appreciate it when I'm 30, but not right now.I used to have a crush on Joey and Donnie of NKOTB and I've finally come to the point that I'm not embarrassed to say that I went to their concert in junior high. I don't like the Backstreet Boys, N Synch, and the rest (they all look and sound alike to me), but I tolerate it because, hey, *I* liked NKOTB and Tiffany. Teenybopper bands will always be around.And southern gurl, Ricky Martin -- ooh la la. He's great eye candy, isn't he? 2|000020|StephanE|10-08-99|javascript resources?|An example...(just change the howMany thing and the quotes, of course)<!-- Beginvar howMany = 9var quote = new Array(howMany+1)quote[0]="Hoping, praying, and anticipating for anything and everything."quote[1]="Advice is free. If it doesn't fit, you can always return it--Jack (from the play Bright Beach Memoirs by Neil Simon)."quote[2]="Tender is the day The demons go away Lord I need to find Someone who can heal my mind--Blur (Tender)."quote[3]="He moves in a circle of friends Who just pretend That they like him He does the same to them And when you put it all together There's the model of a charmless man--Blur (Charmless Man)."quote[4]="First with the head, then with the heart--Bryce Courtenay, from the book The Power of One."quote[5]="...the world is not a place but the vastness of the soul. And the soul is nothing more than love, limitless, endless, all that moves us toward knowing what is true--Amy Tan, from the book The Hundred Secret Senses."quote[6]="Don't be so hard on yourself. That's what you've got a mother and father to do--Stanley (from the play Brighton Beach Memoirs by Neil Simon)."quote[7]="Too much water and you flowed in too many directions...--Amy Tan, from the book The Joyluck Club."quote[8]="You have stumbled upon the website of a selfish, self-absorbed teenager. I'm sure you're very proud."quote[9]="Just another annoying online journal."function rndnumber(){var randscript = -1while (randscript < 0 | | randscript > howMany | | isNaN(randscript)){randscript = parseInt(Math.random()*(howMany+1))}return randscript}quo = rndnumber()quox = quote[quo]document.write(quox)// End --></SCRIPT></p> 2|000020|StephanE|10-08-99|javascript resources?|It's from my website, in case anybody thought I came up with the HTML instantly and was making fun on someone with some of my phrases. 2|000020|StephanE|10-08-99|javascript resources?|It's from my website, in case anybody thought I came up with the HTML instantly and was making fun on someone with some of my phrases. 2|000020|Melissa|10-09-99|javascript resources?|Thanks, StephanE! I learn by examples better than anything. Woohoo!FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 4|000028|Melissa|10-09-99|skeletons in the closet|Hmmm. I was a Jordan lover, all the way. Although I must say that Joe McIntyre looks quite nice all grown up. Nice voice. I like what I've seen/heard of him better than the Jordan Knight comeback.MMC. Sigh. Keri Russell, two 'N Syncers, Britney, and Christina. I lived on the same street as one of them MMC-ers in Michigan. Tony Lucca. The one Keri Russell has dated for a century, or something. FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 3|000031|Melissa|10-09-99|opinions|Dictionary. Heh! All opinions valid but differing in how valid they are. I think that's what I was trying to say. Some people get their panties in a knot defending that everyone's opinion is equally valid. At least, I used to, until I took the class and started thinking about things slightly differently. God, I didn't realize the subject would end up so boring and dead. I'll try harder next time. I'll learn from my mistakes and overcome! Success is only around the corner.FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 4|000029|Melissa|10-09-99|pamela lee / looking pretty|Something I was thinking about when flipping channels and seeing a commercial for that dreadful VIP show with Pamela Lee (Anderson, whatever). I guess phone sex commercials and your general porn star make me think about it too.I think Pamela is a nice looking chick, certainly far from ugly, but I think she looks perfect too MUCH. Her hair is constantly fluffed and curled and full of body. Her makeup is always flawless. I know she doesn't roll out of the bed that way, but it never changes. She looks too good too much of the time and I don't think it's appealing.It's like when I used to see the girls at school who did their best to look perfect everyday. Full makeup each morning, hair curled or preened like they came from the salon ... and then I used to wonder, hell. What do they do to look "special" on prom? The way they came to school is practically the way other people get dressed up for formal occassions.I'm not sure if I'm making my point. I've actually reflected on this for several years. It's like, I look like a bum most of the time. But when I DO put in the effort, it's that much more new and appealing and recognizable. I think it'd get boring to have that perfect look constantly. Like you should hold off on the everyday glamor routine, because who's going to know when you do try to look extra nice? "Pamela Lee. Looks the same as always," even when what she's looking like is usually considered knock-ya-out-of-your-shoes.This got construed. Someone say they catch my drift! FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 4|000029|olivia|10-10-99|pamela lee / looking pretty|I go for the pale, make-upless look because it means fewer day-to-day expectations to live up to. And there's no point in trying to impress people in my school with the way I look. Make-up in those bright lights? Not gonna happen. 4|000029|Claire|10-10-99|pamela lee / looking pretty|Yeah.. I think I understand what you're saying. I rarely wear makeup... I especially wouldn't put cakes of it on just to "look good". If someone doesn't like me for what I naturally look like then what's the point? I mostly just wear gloss... and sometimes a little blush or glitter eyeshadow... but that's about it. I don't think anything else is really necessary. http://www.northcoast.com/~mtaylor/ 4|000029|Shannon|10-11-99|pamela lee / looking pretty|You know, the stars that I am the most fond of are the ones who have visable flaws but are still amazing reguardless. Camera Diaz for example often has pimples and puts on weight in between movies, I her FOR that..for willing to go out in public looking flawed and not like a sex goddess all the time.desex your cat. www.restless.org/cellulite 4|000029|Steve Lender|10-12-99|pamela lee / looking pretty|I think that everyone knows that perfection is impossible, and that if something appears perfect, then it's very fake. Not only is Pamela fake, she's shockingly dumb. She lives up to the stereotype I hold of beautiful people not having to think to survive. 3|000031|Steve Lender|10-12-99|opinions|Yeah, well...that's only your opinion. 4|000013|Emily|10-14-99|let's be honest|well, after trying to take my own life, it no longer scares me... ~And if time should fail~ 3|000031|Emily|10-14-99|opinions|all opinions are equaly valid. To put someones opinions below yours would be a variation of racism. Thats just not right to do that...I guess what I'm trying to say is that if someone thinks that Killing someone is a good thing, Its still a valid oppinion, It just shouldn't be carried out, because that in itself is moraly wrong. They should be expressed in a non violent, moral way, that doesn't affect anyone in a bad way. ~And if time should fail...~ 3|000030|Emily|10-14-99|music is my savior|Semisonic*nods head vigorously*Ben Folds five*shrugs*Blur*looks confused*pulp*stares into space*they might be giants*Looks confused again*radiohead*scratches head, and tries to recal where she heard of them*Better than Ezra*dances around the comp. room*cowboy mouth*?*Barenaked Ladies*If I haaddd A million dollars*Johny LANG*!smiles apreciatingly!*and I like EverclearDave Mathews BandSilverchairSemisonicHanson (I know, I know, there not THAT popular anymore, but I have a attachment to em)Sarah Mglauchlen(yep, I butchered that)Johny Langand um, some indi bands, that no one has ever heard of....Ta da!~And if time should fail...~ 4|000013|jeffyen|10-15-99|let's be honest|>>Steve says, "I also refuse to be saved at the cost of planting my lips on a martyr's ass. It misses the whole entire point."Steve, I'm interested to know what, in your opinion, IS the point?Glimpses ~ daily journal www.itsnotpersonal.com/glimpses 3|000030|rebecca|10-15-99|music is my savior|Claire - you're awesome! I love better than ezra. And toad the wet sprocket, although they're a little obscure now, it seems. 3|000029|rebecca|10-15-99|Been awhile hasn't it?|Oreos are not the thing to eat when you have braces. But I eat them anyway. I went through this eight year period of not liking chocolate (which sounds insane now, but..), so when I was little, I would lick the cream and throw the cookies away. If I do that now, it's a little nauseating, so I do the AK404 and Stephanie thing. 1|000021|rebecca|10-15-99|Can't see the Rebecca post|Hello. Well, you know where I am now, so that's settled. 4|000013|Emily|10-15-99|let's be honest|Faith is an incredibly hard thing to accept, and thats what it takes to die.. If we don't have faith, the world would collapse. We have faith that the world will turn, and time would continue, and we have faith that our human race will not die out in an instant, even the most faithless have faith. Its just one of the things that keeps the world ticking. Its another form of trust..to say it in other words. And we all have faith that we will die, and soon, go to another place. We only have 70 or 80 years, a mere minute on the timeline of the centuries...so make the most of that minute, because, no matter what, you WILL always be remembered, wether it be by masses of people, or by a simple grey stone.. You will survive the centuries in someones eyes, it just takes a bit of time. "some people come into our lives, and quickly go. Some stay for awhile, and leave foot prints on our hearts, and we are never ever the same" -dunno, who said this?~And if time should fail...~ 4|000013|Steve Lender|10-18-99|let's be honest|The point, Jeffyen, is that I don't believe that my soul will receive freedom by giving in to subservience. I don't want to be a sheep in the flock. Eventually the sheep are killed to be eaten by something.Oh, but the sheep must have faith that what the shepherd is doing is right.Sounds a lot like the socialism I dislike. 4|000029|Steve Lender|10-18-99|pamela lee / looking pretty|Considering the vast amounts of shocking statements that I've made, and the complete lack of anything contrary to them, I must assume that everyone is in agreement with the statements. 3|000029|Steve Lender|10-18-99|Been awhile hasn't it?|Poor Shannon. So you've never ever had an Oreo? Perhaps I should mail you some. One of the better contributions the US has made.JA 3|000031|Steve Lender|10-18-99|opinions|Emily, you make me puke. Do you realize that you completely contradicted yourself in your message?Ok. Sorry about the puke thing.Follow me...#1 Killing is wrong.#2 Killing is ok.These are both valid opinions. You state that every opinion is equally valid. By saying that killing is immoral, you are saying that one opinion is more valid than the other.To decide that one opinion is more valid than the other, without giving full consideration to both is the prejudice that you speak of.And, by golly, you did that too. To quickly jump to the conclusion that killing is wrong because it is immoral, you absolutely fail to recognize the validity of the second opinion.Is it wrong to kill a psycopath before he kills your child? (This is rhetorical, and not meant for discussion at this time.)Given that situation, I would say yes, it is ok to kill, proving the validity of the second opinion.Further argument may either lead us in circles, or to a greater validity of one of the opinions.Do ya get it? 3|000031|southern gurl|10-19-99|opinions|VERY well said! 3|000031|Steve Lender|10-19-99|opinions|Thank you. You must have excellent taste.I hope it wasn't too much of a battering for Emily. I get worked up, ya know? Teeth clenched, hand slapping forehead, spit on the screen.Emily! Feedback! 3|000031|Steve Lender|10-19-99|opinions|OH, and Melissa. From your first message...Yes, anyone has the right to any opinion they want. It's how one reacts to their opinion that may become objectionable. 3|000031|Steve Lender|10-19-99|opinions|Wait. I read your message wrong. Nevermind. 3|000031|Emily|10-19-99|opinions|Well, as I never blantently said, killing is ok. I just said, Its a Valid opinion. Morals are also opinions, and I do admit I failed to say that..oops. I was having some problems that night with thinking straight, and I wanted to say what I was fealing. So SorryNext example, hopefully it won't make you puke(*L):If someone decides to turn vegitarian, they should not MAKE people give up hunting because that is only their opinions...(saying nothing against vegitarians, vegans, animal rights activists, PETA, and anyone else that affects)Is that any better? see, the hunter can hunt, its tradition, just as veganism is in some traditions...it doesn't matter, your morals are what you are forced to learn as a person 3|000031|Melissa|10-19-99|opinions|Oh, Steve, I love you. You speak in ways I think yet do not commit to the board's reply box, either because I lack the diction or confidence (too wordy). We could've used you in class to balance the scales.FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 3|000031|Melissa|10-19-99|opinions|Emily: what do you mean by saying morals are what you are forced to learn as a person? Just interested. I find that some of the people I've come into contact with missed that step in life, unless you count, well, morally wrong morals (ha!). FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 3|000031|olivia|10-20-99|opinions|Emily, all opinions are NOT valid. Can you explain to me what makes all opinions valid? Equality and fairness in a world where everyone should be open-minded and listen to one another's opinion?Like Melissa said, there is a difference between the validity of all opinions and the right for an opinion to be had and expressed. So, in this crazy country of free speech, everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion, but not everyone in this world can claim validity to his or her opinion. This would be based on which person can justify his or her opinion with facts, experience, observations, examples, and all that good stuff. So far Emily, I haven't seen you base any of your opinions on good, solid facts, experience, observations, or examples. Well, except for that example about killing, but that kind of back-fired on you, and that other example about vegetarianism, which you didn't explain very clearly.So here's my example to justify MY opinion that not all opinions are valid.If I go into a doctor's office and after being subjected to a thorough examination, am told by the doctor that his opinion is I will die of cancer within two years, don't you think his opinion would be more valid than a little 5 year old who says I LOOK healthy right now and will live till I'm 90? What separates the validity between both of those opinions is that the doctor is basing his judgment off of observations, experience, and years of training. Now, can the 5 year old say his opinion is more valid than the doctor's? It's possible the doctor is wrong and by some miracle, I do live till I'm 90, but who should I initially listen to? Who's got the medical degree here and who's going beyond the surface to draw his conclusions?Wouldn't you agree then that the doctor's opinion is more valid than that 5 year old's? According to what you said, I would have to consider both of their opinions equally because all opinions are valid and should be considered in an equal fashion. 4|000030|olivia|10-20-99|relationships|I think I take the idea of relationship a bit too seriously. I don't understand how people can be casual about a simple date. Do you think I'm being too unrealistic to want a relationship to be based on friendship? My reasoning is that a friendship would assure a stronger trust. I know a relationship could jeopardize a friendship, but... I'm not the kind of person who can open up to someone who only sees me as a romantic interest. What do you think? 2|000021|olivia|10-20-99|doesn't it irk you?|Yesterday, my sociology teacher took us to the computer lab in the library. He wanted us to find a psychology link in this really long page of links. One of the librarians was helping the girl next to me find the link we were looking for. I told them to just go to Edit, Find and type in "psychology," but the librarian kept scrolling manually. I was like, "WHAT AN IDIOT!" 'cause I really hate those librarians and teachers who try to teach me to use the Internet by setting aside class time to do some stupid online interacting ditty when I should be the one teaching them. The librarian finally left after another minute or two, and after regaining control of her mouse, the girl asked me what to do.Does this kind of thing happen to anyone else? 4|000030|Steve Lender|10-20-99|relationships|If you're lonely, you need a friend. You will always need a friend. When you're not makin' with the romance, it's a friend you want to be with. Sex is NOTHING compared to spending time with a friend. What's the point of finding someone to have sex with if you can't stand them afterwards?Can't make an omlet without breaking an egg or more. Sometimes relations don't work out. You'll choose someone before you know what it is that you want. It's natural.Just call me the Love Doctor. 3|000031|Steve Lender|10-20-99|opinions|That, Olivia, does not prove that an opinion can not be valid. Is does make a good example for Emily, though.The 5 year old's opinion was valid, until you went and got a better opinion from a doctor, at which point, the 5 year old's opinion was less valid.Now had you, in your example, gone to the doctor and he conclusively found that you had cancer, the 5 year old's opinion would be disproven, and therefore invalid.I think I'm on your side, olivia, but I started this feeling like I was arguing with you.An opinion is like a theory. Until one theory is proven, all other theories on the subject are valid.The theory that the universe grew from a Big Bang is probably more valid than, say, the theory that the universe was sneezed out by a giant moose.Or the theory that smoking causes cancer is probably more accurate than the cigarette company's opinion that smoking is harmless and non-addictive. They may still be right, but it's not verly likely at all.Melissa- thanks. Sometimes, when I use my powers for good instead of evil, I can come up with some really good stuff.C'mon Emily! What else ya got? Let us have it! Sock it to me!Please do not take my taunts to be offensive, and rest assured that I hold you in the highest respects.So, what other half-thought-out examples can you come up with? (please see previous paragraph.) 4|000030|Emily|10-20-99|relationships|I don't know how far to go emotionally, why don't they teach that? I'v been lucky to find a person who compleatly loves me...~And if time should fail...~ 3|000031|Emily|10-20-99|opinions|That example with the five year old is really good. I have to say though. As the dictonary says, an opinion is a judgement that rests on the ground insuficiant to prove certainty. There have been misdiagnosis... There also have been correct diagnosises... There always is mistakes... and those will be opinions... ~And if time should fail...~ 3|000031|Emily|10-20-99|opinions|anything true is a law~And if time should fail...~ 2|000021|jeffyen|10-20-99|doesn't it irk you?|LOL! Actually, the truth is that the librarian *really doesn't know* that you can do a ctrl+f to find stuff.Sometimes, I'm amazed at the simple computer skills that others lack. Then again, there're also a lot of things which I don't know and they do...so it evens out, I guess...Zen and the Art of Scrolling Manually...Glimpses ~ daily journal www.itsnotpersonal.com/glimpses 4|000030|southern gurl|10-21-99|relationships|Steve, you always know just what to say! You are good at explaining yourself. I may disagree with you on ALOT of things, but I have to agree whole-heartedly with you on what you said to Olivia. Olivia: I don't see it either how all these people can just date "around." I've only seriously dated one guy, and that's the guy I'm with now, and he's also the man I'm going to marry =) And I don't regret it either. Why do I want to get married knowing that I slept with or told x-number of guys that I loved them. To me that belittles the real thing.I know that probably didn't make sense, I wish I had Steve's way of putting things. 4|000030|southern gurl|10-21-99|relationships|Steve, you always know just what to say! You are good at explaining yourself. I may disagree with you on ALOT of things, but I have to agree whole-heartedly with you on what you said to Olivia. Olivia: I don't see it either how all these people can just date "around." I've only seriously dated one guy, and that's the guy I'm with now, and he's also the man I'm going to marry =) And I don't regret it either. Why do I want to get married knowing that I slept with or told x-number of guys that I loved them. To me that belittles the real thing.I know that probably didn't make sense, I wish I had Steve's way of putting things. 4|000030|southern gurl|10-21-99|relationships|dagnabit, I always do that. Sorry ya'll! 4|000031|southern gurl|10-21-99|something I've learned|I've learned:That just because a couple argues doesn't mean they don't love each other, and just because a couple doesn't argue doesn't mean they do.Anyone got anything they've learned they want to share? 4|000031|Emily|10-21-99|something I've learned|Um, I'v learned, um always take out the garbage? naw I don't do that...um, I think the most inportant thing I"v learned is how to love. It takes a while, and its painfull to loose. It worth it too~And if time should fail...~ 4|000030|Steve Lender|10-21-99|relationships|I'd rather you didn't agree with the things I say. I don't care if I'm right or wrong, I just wanna fight!The common fear is that in attempting a relationship, you'll ruin a friendship. I don't think a date entails a "relationship." It's just a way of spending time with someone. That's the only way to know someone. A friendship's natural course is to head towards deeper intimacy. 2|000021|Melissa|10-22-99|doesn't it irk you?|Oh, lord, Olivia, I sympathize! I know exactly what you're talking about. Mrs. Duncan was the most hellish librarian to ever to grace my presence. I knew more about the computers than she did, yet she felt compelled to help constantly and annoy me and make smart remarks. Not to mention she nearly took my head off for changing the desktop background. It was a nightmare trying to get anything done with her hovering over your shoulder. FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 2|000021|Shannon|10-22-99|doesn't it irk you?|On the first day of university they spent about 2 hours teaching us how to check our email.Last year one of the journalism professors wouldn't let people use search engines for fear that it was too "advanced". bleeh![quote}Zen and the Art of Scrolling Manually...[/quote]*lmao*desex your cat. www.restless.org/cellulite 4|000029|Shannon|10-22-99|pamela lee / looking pretty|Erm, I haven't been here in a little while and so missed many of the "shocking" statements.At least people like Pam are reassuring. You think, if I starved myself, dyed my hair blonde, had my lips done wore gallons of make up ect I could somewhat resemble her. Besides which, people always comment on the stupidity of Pam. With someone like Helena Christenson though? my god, she speaks 6 languages and is an accomplished photographer as well as being simply devine looking. Then of course it seems like my genes are fourth rate. I find it comforting in a perverse way to think that she was dumped for a woman nearly twice her age. I'm mean. I do like Helena though.desex your cat. www.restless.org/cellulite 4|000032|Melissa|10-25-99|Atomic Drama|I posted this on the cellulite board as well (I'm not spamming! No! I promise! ) so if you see it twice, sorry. I'm just trying to provide the link to some MP3s by a band I know and who I think are great musicians. Jeremy just recently started putting his music out again and like the good little girl I am, I'm trying to drum up support. If anyone has some free time or wants to give them a listen, the url is: http://www.mp3.com/artists/48/super_friend.html I won't be turning into one of those annoying ad people. The AOL community has seen enough David Culiner ads on message boards to last a lifetime. Just a one-time little promo in case anyone's interested. Let me know if you like what you hear. FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 3|000031|Melissa|10-25-99|opinions|Elaborate, Emily. I don't see how everything true is a law. True to who and how? What kind of law?FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 3|000031|Steve Lender|10-25-99|opinions|So, what you're saying, Emily, is that all opinions are false? And that if an opinion isn't false, it's a law?Everything is subjective. The only laws are the laws of physics. Everything else is a construction to make society run more smoothly.Morals are guidlines to make society work. They are mere opinions, not laws. Rules. Not laws.Many animals kill every single day to promote their own survival. We "shalt not kill/slay/murder" because it tends to make the people we live around, the society, uncomfortable and irritated. Unrest.But when a criminal comes forth and causes disturbances in the society, the society has few qualms with putting the criminal to death.The moral is an opinion. A mere rule to help us get along. The whole "hold no gods before me" thing is the key. If we all followed the same rules, there would be little or no discontent of society.Gravity, though, is a law. You can defeat gravity, but it's always there. 3|000031|Emily|10-25-99|opinions|Yeah, I have to admit, morals are laws. But, according to the scienific theory a law can be proven, theorys are just semi-facts, that are unable to be proved as of yet. theorys are not lies, they are just not proven compleatly true...~And if time should fail...~ 1|000024|Melissa|10-27-99|Favorite obscure sites/domains|There are plenty of great sites out there that aren't on everyone's links list and thus aren't readily known about. I thought it'd be a good way to find out about sites other people love but are not yet getting thirty to a thousand hits a day. Free adverstising for them, I suppose. I'll try to post one every time I pass through. I may not know who or what's "known" already, though, so bear with me if I put up a link the rest of the net has already visited at least once. I suppose this is an iffy one. http://www.rebekah.org . I'm not sure how popular Rebekah was or is, but I found her about a year and a half ago and have been reading ever since. I used to see her linked around a few places a couple of years ago, but haven't stumbled upon anyone linking her in ages. Maybe I'm not going to the right sites. FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 2|000022|Melissa|10-27-99|other viewings |I'm an MIE user, and I like it just fine. However, I'm not exactly a reference book on what works and what doesn't and how things made on MIE will look on Netscape. I don't know a single soul who uses Netscape. Is there anyone who has the time and patience to send me a screen capture of the main menu or intro and mention what looks like it's screwed up? I guess anyone operating with or without MIE on a resolution different than 800x600 would have helpful comments, too. I already noticed that my print is awfully small on my best friend's AOL. I don't have a million dollars to give you, but I have the ability to produce dozens of yellow happy faces until your eyes hurt. FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 4|000033|Melissa|10-27-99|what magazines do you get?|Some people think it's odd, but I used to have a subscription to Good Housekeeping. I had it from eighth grade through junior year in high school, and loved every issue. I'm not sure why. I'm certainly not the suzy homemaker type. At a time in my life when all my peers were eagerly picking up issues of ym and Seventeen, I was enjoying recipes and product reviews and advice columns on how to get that red wine sauce off your burbur.We got National Geographic for a year, and that kicked ass. What magazines do you guys subscribe to or wish you did? I'd love to start getting Atlantic Monthly, Scientific American, Paper, Life, and National Geographic (again).FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 4|000031|Melissa|10-27-99|something I've learned|I've learned to not think so much. It usually gets me either flustered or in trouble.But the best thing I ever learned was how to scorn what the preppy and popular people were doing in school and have no qualms about not being the same type of people they were.FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 4|000033|Claire|10-27-99|what magazines do you get?|I get... um... Twist. Yeah. A lot of it bores me. I like to look at the clothes, celebrity stuff, embarrassing moments, etc. Most of the styles they feature tend to nauseate me, though... I don't really know why I get it, I guess. I used to always buy it at the store so my Mom finally bought a sub. for me. I used to get Seventeen, too. Other than that I haven't really gotten any magazines... I got Highlights when I was little. (c: I think we got 3-2-1 Contact, too.One thing that really makes me mad about "teen mags" are their politics. They obviously use their magazine to influence their readers... People will probably think I'm psycho for saying this, but I know it's true. They don't even try to be impartial. They're always having stuff about environmentalists and other things of that nature. They always look positively on people like Hilary Clinton and have things like "volunteerism awards"... But that's really a whole other topic in itself because the whole point of volunteering is that the act of doing something good of your own free will is rewarding. *sigh* Off topic...Hey, I used to run a magazine... if anyone cares. There. That relates to the original topic a little better... kind of. http://www.northcoast.com/~mtaylor/ 4|000033|southern gurl|10-27-99|what magazines do you get?|I use to get National Geographic when I was around 9...I'd cry at all the pictures of the starving kids in Africa. Seriously! I still get sad looking at them.Anyway, I don't subscribe to any mags now, but I occasionally pick up a copy of Marie Claire (b/c I think it has more class than Cosmo), People (for the nosy in me), Life (I love it!), and Taste of Home (a cooking mag). Oh, and my favorite of all time is definitely Readers' Digest. 4|000033|olivia|10-27-99|what magazines do you get?|My first subscription ever was to Barbie magazine. Then I subscribed to Your Big Backyard just to get the cute pictures. After that it was Cat Fancy. :0)I still enjoy picking up a copy of Reader's Digest and Time. I really hate magazines that have an advertisement interrupting every other page. 4|000031|Steve Lender|10-27-99|something I've learned|I've learned that I can learn something from anyone. 2|000022|Steve Lender|10-27-99|other viewings |I could help. I have a Mac. With Netscape. At 640x480. Max 16 bit color.It's probably just about as different from your setup as you can get. 2|000022|Steve Lender|10-27-99|other viewings |It all seems to work ok.screen shots:<a href=http://victorian.fortunecity.com/vermeer/778/melissa1.jpg>one</a><a href=http://victorian.fortunecity.com/vermeer/778/melissa2.jpg>two</a><a href=http://victorian.fortunecity.com/vermeer/778/melissa3.jpg>three</a> 2|000022|Steve Lender|10-27-99|other viewings |goddamn.no.html.ubb.piece.of.doo.doo.Well, I guess you can cut and paste. 4|000034|Emily|10-27-99|Grrrrrr|Suicide, and the pain that comes with it~And if time should fail...~ 2|000022|Melissa|10-27-99|other viewings |I LOVE STEVE! Steve is nice and God-like. Thank you, Steve!FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 4|000033|Melissa|10-27-99|what magazines do you get?|Olivia, I remember picking up three or four copies of Barbie magazine back in the day. One featured a Kim Zmeskal interview before she fell off the balance beam and ruined her chance at a gold medal that year. Whatever Olympics that was. Barcelona, I do believe.GH did use to irritate me with the food ads and the astonishing number of drug inserts. Every antihistamine and depression drug available was thrown in every issue.FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 4|000034|olivia|10-27-99|Grrrrrr|A failed attempt at suicide is pretty painful.Suicide itself is selfish. Your troubled emotions may go away but it increases tenfold for the people you've left behind. 4|000033|olivia|10-27-99|what magazines do you get?|Remember how the tune went in the old Barbie commercials? My cousin used to tease my other cousin by singing, "We girls can do anything... like Boobie." But that was before I had a sense of humor. 4|000034|Melissa|10-28-99|Grrrrrr|Olivia .. I knew a girl once (she was psychotic, but this was her idea) who said that it's selfish for the people left behind to be sad or upset. That they should just let the person do whatever they want and get over it. Others got mad at this. I just tried not to laugh in her face. Being stuck in a classroom with her was like a slow death.FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 4|000033|Melissa|10-28-99|what magazines do you get?|Oh, I remember the jingle. Remember how it was just Barbie and Skipper, her teenage sister, for the longest time? Then there was Stacey -- THE FORGOTTEN SISTER. Stacey was around ten, a pre-pubescent. The other day as I was passing a new barbie that featured the littlest "new" sister Krissy that Stacey had at some point disappeared from the family. There's still Barbie and Skipper (Skipper grew boobs), and Kelly the post-toddler (like four to six) ... and now Krissy. Where the HELL did Stacey go? Does anyone know? Does anyone remember Stacey???FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 2|000022|Steve Lender|10-28-99|other viewings |God-like? blush.Neat photography. What kind of camera do you use? I've a page of some pictures, taken with a digital camera mostly. It's not the greatest camera in the world, unless you like the peculiarities in the pictures it takes, like I do. 4|000034|Steve Lender|10-28-99|Grrrrrr|Doesn't it bother you people to be so judgemental? Someone expresses a view that's different from your own, and you jump so quickly to label them a psychotic.Suicide is a shame. It's the ultimate quiter. It's to take a big rubber stamp and mark yourself FAILURE.But sometimes it's just a sign of burnout. There are imperfections in everything. If an imperfection in a person's mental make-up is faulty, it's going to send that person to an early end, like a poorly manufactured light bulb.----------do i hit you folk too hard? 4|000033|olivia|10-28-99|what magazines do you get?|Didn't Barbie have a cousin named Kim? Or Courtney? Something like that. 4|000034|olivia|10-28-99|Grrrrrr|But it's not just leaving family and friends behind in a depression-led suicide. What about those people who commit heinous crimes and then kill themselves to avoid punishment? 4|000033|Claire|10-28-99|what magazines do you get?|Courtney was Skipper's friend. We had one or two becaue my sister's name is Courtney. I was only allowed to play with Skippers because of he way they made Barbie's body. http://www.northcoast.com/~mtaylor/ 4|000031|cyn|10-28-99|something I've learned|I've learned that nothing lasts forever -- and that I shouldn't expect it to, either. terabithia.net 3|000030|NightRipper|10-29-99|music is my savior|ahhhh i've stumbled upon the fountain of youth!!! my favorite bands/singers are David Bromburg,Capt.Beefheart,Doors,Cream,Cammander Cody and his Lost Planet Airmen,Leadbelly, Blind Mellon and Lightning Hoppkins....maybe your mom of dad has some of these 8-tracks 2|000021|NightRipper|10-29-99|doesn't it irk you?|what ever happened to smooching behind the psycology section.... 2|000022|Melissa|10-29-99|other viewings |Steve ... I use an obselete Minolta. I like it, mainly because I'm attached to it as my first camera, but I don't have a flash or any special lenses, which bugs me. And no automatic focus, which I'd like. I need a better model when I start photography classes in college. The idea of actually being taught to use the camera and do things with it is intriguing, and something I didn't get from photo 1 in high school.It's actually a miracle any of my pictures ever came out at all, actually. I innocently had it set on 800 speed film when I was using 125, 200, and 400. I'd like to get a little digital camera to fool with, too. FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 3|000030|Melissa|10-29-99|music is my savior|Rebecca, I knew a woman who was a Toad fanatic. It almost killed her when they broke up around last year. I wouldn't be surprised if she took to drinking, actually.I'm trying to go back and get all of Tool's albums now. I didn't like them until stupid-boy Anthony played Aenima in the car one day. Unfortunately, before that point, I'd dismissed Tool as one of those bands like Limp Bizkit who does nothing but scream and yell. Little did I know that while the CD art is rather disgusting, Maynard's voice is wonderful, he doesn't scream all the time, the music rocks and I love the lyrics. Other, older Tool fans would probably beat me down, and I don't think I'm courageous enough to ever dare see them in concert. Besides Collective Soul, I like Our Lady Peace, Black Lab, Darlahood, Nicklebag, Oleander, The Nixons, Candlebox ... old favorites like The Eagles and Led Zeppelin .. John Cougar Mellencamp, Bruce Springsteen, Pink Floyd, U2 ... Pearl Jam, Jonny, Placebo. Too many, that's all I know. 4|000034|Melissa|10-29-99|Grrrrrr|Steve, believe me, her ideas on suicide were far from the cream of crop. She was psychotic for much more than having a differing view on suicide. It was like going to French class knowing there's a rabies-infected animal waiting for you. She was paranoid, nasty, rude, egotistical and attacked everyone for disagreeing with her.Like I said. Hell. Give me fire and brimstone over her presence any damn day of the week, I beg you.FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 4|000035|olivia|10-30-99|people who let you down|It wasn't until debate that I began to see how disappointing it is for people to let me down.What about you guys? Are you resilient enough to deal with it constantly? 4|000035|Melissa|10-30-99|people who let you down|I was quite used to being let down in high school. It was called "Group Project." I dreaded having to work with others, because I was the only grade-conscious person in the group and would have to do the lion's share of the work to make a decent grade. I'd rather do the entire thing myself then have to work with delinquent students who decided last night it would be more fun to get high off drugs than do a model the group was counting on. The people who actually wanted to get anything down just learned to expect being let down and started compensating for the projects themselves.FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 4|000033|jeffyen|11-01-99|what magazines do you get?|I subscribe to National Geographic, Reader's Digest and Time.Actually, for news, I prefer USNews & World Report. I don't know, but somehow, I feel their journalist has more empathy and concern for the things that they write... 4|000029|Clarity|11-04-99|pamela lee / looking pretty|I've never thought Pamela Lee was pretty. She's had so much done to her body surgically that whenever I see her, I feel like I'm staring at one big lie. I hate it when women alter their bodies to appeal to the public and she is no exception. Beauty is being able to wake up late, throw your hair up in a ponytail and go to school feeling confident. None of that other crap. 4|000036|olivia|11-05-99|guys and gals|When you're not thinking about getting into anything serious and it just boils down to your tastes and that instant WOW, what do you find attractive about a guy or girl?I think guys who are really good speakers/debaters are incredibly sexy. Intellectual prowess. *purr*Smartest when delirious, honest when tired, and adminstrator when board. 3|000032|olivia|11-05-99|that religion thing again|Do you think if everyone in the world belonged to the same religion, we'd achieve world peace? And what single religion would be able to accomplish this? 2|000023|olivia|11-05-99|ideas for this ubb|What should I change about this UBB? Do any of you have ideas for new forums, and would you volunteer to become the moderator for that forum? Or should I just keep the ubb down to four little forums? 3|000032|Claire|11-05-99|that religion thing again|No... I don't think there will ever be world peace... No one is perfect... no religion is perfect. Every religion has good people and bad people. There will always be someone who is screwed up and people who will follow them. deep.contradiction.org 4|000036|Claire|11-05-99|guys and gals|That's what I like, too... guys that make me think... and even sort of if they push my buttons. They have to have a good sense of humor though, too... and not take themselves too seriously. I guess those are my main attractions. Hopefully he's a decent guy. (c: deep.contradiction.org 3|000032|jeffyen|11-05-99|that religion thing again|I don't see why we should *belong* to A religion. Religion is a dirty word (as least in a way that a lot of people treat religion, like you've to belong to it or something.) Religion is something that makes God look really bad. He never intended it to be that way, I think.Do you think God is pleased with the way so called Muslims and Christians kill each other? Even a 5 year old kid can say no.It's the people who use this thing called *religion* to gain power and honor for themselves...it's doesn't have to be like that...it's not supposed to be like that... 3|000032|Melissa|11-06-99|that religion thing again|The whole point of Jesus being born and living and teaching "God's ways" and being sacrificed was to get us away from organized religion. To get us away from the rules, the restrictions, the limitations, and develop a personal relationship with God. If you argue this with me, I'll have to go get back up from Lee Ann, because I'm a fool at trying to explain my religious beliefs or "support them with evidence." Which is why I keep my thoughts on religion to myself, mostly. I don't have the scripture ammunition to get into it with most people. I think everyone belonging to the same religion would end up just as misconstrued as it is today. It'd be impossible to get everyone to agree to even the most basic of ideas.FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 4|000036|Melissa|11-06-99|guys and gals|I like men who share my sense of humor and can express themselves when they communicate, whether it's through writing or just speaking. Additionally, I like guys who don't think they're "hot." There's nothing to make a guy less appealing than when he walks around knowing that he looks good.FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 3|000033|Melissa|11-06-99|I'm staring at a blank topic box (kismet)|I'm a moderator for this forum, and dang it, I wanna see some action. We've seen me create a number of stupid/or decent topics with no regard to how I appear intellectually. Let's not break tradition!Do you guys think your "fate" is already charted out for you, or are you of the breed that believes nothing is pre-determined and you're making your destiny as we speak?FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 1|000024|Melissa|11-06-99|Favorite obscure sites/domains|Oh, good God people. It's like pulling teeth with you! Someone out there has something to share. My antennae can sense it, and there's no use hiding.How popular is http://www.zerozine.com ? They've got some beautiful photography there.FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 4|000033|Melissa|11-06-99|what magazines do you get?|I liked Barbie's auburn-haired friend Midge. She had a cool hubby, too, nothing like that yuppie Ken. 3|000033|Claire|11-06-99|I'm staring at a blank topic box (kismet)|I don't think everything is already set up... but I do think certain major events are predetermined and/or happen for a reason. deep.contradiction.org 4|000036|Claire|11-06-99|guys and gals|That is so true... when guys are full of themselves (or at least act that way) that is a total turn off. Another thing that is important to me is a guy's voice... if his voice annoys me how can he be a comfort? deep.contradiction.org 4|000037|Emily|11-06-99|Vegatarianism...|Is anyone out there a vegitarian or vegan? I'm a vegan, so I want to know if there is anyone else....~And if time should fail...~ 3|000033|olivia|11-06-99|I'm staring at a blank topic box (kismet)|I go back and forth believing both. It depends on the situation when I have to fluctuate what I believe to deal with what I'm facing. 4|000036|olivia|11-06-99|guys and gals|I usually don't pay attention to a guy's voice unless it's in the extreme. I do notice if he stutters though or if he employs a nice vocabulary. Height is also one of the things I like to analyze on the spot. I just wonder, "Is he a good height for kissing or dancing? Can I comfortably walk next to him?" 4|000036|jeffyen|11-07-99|guys and gals|My voice annoys people, I think. Wanna listen to it? I'll try not to stutter:-)I just had the most wonderful experience talking on the phone to a relative in the States. (I live in Asia.)www.dialpad.com is offering this service, for free!You just have to talk into your computer mike, and the other party can use a regular phone. It's really awesome!!Olivia, I just might call you soon!! (At least I hope to get the time zones right!)Glimpses ~ daily journal www.itsnotpersonal.com/glimpses 4|000037|olivia|11-07-99|Vegatarianism...|I'm working my way towards becoming vegetarian. If I notice I haven't eaten meat all day, I'll challenge myself to not eat meat for the rest of the day. And then when I do eat meat, I choose white over red. I'm hoping just a little bit will help. 3|000032|olivia|11-07-99|that religion thing again|But in the Bible, Jesus says he is the only way for us to get to God. It was in John 10, I think, where he says we are like sheep and he is the shephard, and only the shephard can guide the sheep and protect it from the wolves.Studies show that religiously active people who support each other with prayer are more likely to get well in the hospital quicker than other people. My dad says this is proof that God is at work. But God must be working for different religions, because these studies weren't just limited to Christians. Either that or it's the actual power of faith and belief that is causing them to get well. 3|000032|jeffyen|11-07-99|that religion thing again|Yes, Jesus is the way. Your debt is paid, no matter what you believe. That is the beauty of it. I've seen a lot of Buddhists that have more Christians attributes than a lot of so-called Christians. So really, the idea that only Jesus talks about Christian concepts is not entirely correct.They really all say basically the same thing : love your neighbor, all the rest will fall in place...Another thing, Zen is referred to many times by Jesus. Of course Jesus doesn't say 'this is Zen', but the idea is there...so there's much more than meets the eye than blantly saying, "You are not a Christian according to how I define how a Christian should be. Therefore, you're condemned." or something like that. ;-)Glimpses ~ daily journal www.itsnotpersonal.com/glimpses 3|000032|Puff Mommy|11-07-99|that religion thing again|You're speaking from a narcissistic viewpoint, olivia. You asked what we thought would happen if everyone in the world belonged to the same religion, and would we achieve world peace. Who's to say this world belongs to us, the people? How do you define world peace? You can rephrase your question: Do you think if everyone in the world belonged to the same religion, we'd achieve peace in this world? Is this really our home? That's the question we should ask. 4|000036|meredith|11-07-99|guys and gals|I think it boils down to how comforable I feel around a guy. I mean, if I'm comforable laughing with him, sharing with him, and I just know that he's understanding.. then that's the one. 3|000032|olivia|11-07-99|that religion thing again|I'm scratching my head and wondering... Does it matter how I worded my question if I didn't use any taboo words and people understood what I was asking?If you're going to get that specific, I never asked what people thought would happen if everyone in the world belonged to the same religion. I never claimed the world belonged to us. I don't recall saying "our world," so I have no idea where you're coming from on that point.The question you suggested I ask, "Do you think if everyone in the world belonged to the same religion, we'd achieve peace in the world?" is implying that we have no peace in the world right now, and that's not what I wanted to insinuate.How do I define world peace? Peace on a global scale, peace being more than a lack of violence: a harmony. (This is probably when someone will come waltzing in with a dictionary.) I think we do have peace in the world, just not as widespread as our ideals wish for it to be. 3|000032|olivia|11-07-99|that religion thing again|Anyway, to answer my own question, I think something about society causes people to branch into subcultures. Even people in the same religion have minute differences that spur different denominations. As long as these differences exist, discrepancies will occur. 4|000038|olivia|11-08-99|stress|I've had a lot of crap to do lately, but I've happily taken it all in. And the reason why is that playing the guitar relieves my stress. But today I haven't been able to play the guitar at all, and I am ready to burst. I'm really quiet because I don't want to snap at anyone, but at the same time, I WANT to cuss everyone out. What pushed me over was that I came home from work at 9:30, still in a good mood. There was a note on the door that said my mom and bro were waiting at the restaurant for me. So I drove to the restaurant, which is like across the street from the mall (where I work). I wasn't hungry nor did I want to drive, but I figured, spending the time with my family was important and I felt an obligation to go since they were waiting for me. But I got there and they were gone. I was pissed while I was driving home. Not only did the whole spiel suck 20 precious minutes of my time--20 minutes I will never get back in my life--but it wasted gas. I want to play the guitar! But no... I have to do homework if I plan to get to bed in time to catch enough Z's.What do you all do to relieve your stress? 4|000038|Melissa|11-09-99|stress|I used to have academic stress, but I'm free from that until January. So now, to relieve the stresses that involved January itself, I read the paper. Or get Nicole to pick me up so we can blast Tool down Silver Springs on our way to WalMart, which is always a party.FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 4|000038|renee|11-09-99|stress|Go out and party at the next opportunity, olivia. It's great for relieving stress...*hugsie* 4|000031|renee|11-09-99|something I've learned|I've learned that you have to stand up and look the grim truth in the face and be able to say, "My God, I still love you no matter how ugly you are."*hugsie* 4|000038|jeffyen|11-09-99|stress|Well, Olivia, I hope my phone call didn't stressed you up too much! :-)To relax, I like to watch movies. The best kinds I select are films like Tony Blair's Witch Project. Then I come out of the cinema, stressed. EEK!Seriously, I play the piano to unstress; the kind that I play in total darkness at night; dissonant, irregular melody, mood things kind of playing...it works great...Glimpses ~ daily journal www.itsnotpersonal.com/glimpses 4|000039|jeffyen|11-09-99|Are you happy?|Are you happy? Or is that irrelevent?Are you sad? Why?Glimpses ~ daily journal www.itsnotpersonal.com/glimpses 4|000038|southern gurl|11-09-99|stress|When I feel stressed or down I take a long hot shower or if its warm weather I swim. 100% relaxing. 4|000039|southern gurl|11-09-99|Are you happy?|I'm actually very unhappy right at this moment, because I overslept and came in late to work, but overall, I'm very happy with my life. I have a roof over my head, food, a car to drive, a loving family, and I'm with the man I love. Is that possible? To be unhappy and happy at the same time? 4|000038|Claire|11-09-99|stress|I usually sing... for a long time. I've been playing my flute lately, too. It also depends what's going on... sometimes I just need to distract myself so I'll watch my Mom play spades online or get on the computer and work on a layout or something. Pretty much anything that doesn't involve whatever's stressing me out. deep.contradiction.org 3|000032|Steve Lender|11-09-99|that religion thing again|Unless you're ready to alter human nature, I don't think the ideal of peace will be achieved.Regardless of religion, there will always be strife between the people who are on top, and the people who want to be on top.George Orwell tells us this. There has always been 3 divisions in society. The low, middle and top. The ones in the middle are always looking for ways to use the low so that they may achieve the top. The top is always looking to maintain the top. The low always get the shit.Until you solve that thirst for power, it's all for naught. 3|000033|Steve Lender|11-09-99|I'm staring at a blank topic box (kismet)|No lie, Olivia. Well said.I'm the captain of my own ship until things become out of my control, and I curse my destiny or the malign gods. 1|000024|Steve Lender|11-09-99|Favorite obscure sites/domains|I don't have time to search for obscure sites.None of them can be as obscure as my site. 4|000039|olivia|11-09-99|Are you happy?|I heard in a Bill Gothard seminar that happiness comes from happenings. Then there's the eternal joy of knowing that God loves you. I think the same kind of joy can come from other things, too.The long-term emotions are usually the deep, emotional ones that get so complex, they're covered by other feelings that are more on the surface. I'll never stop loving my cat, but I still have to bring him in to the vet every year. It hurts and scares him, but I do it because I love him. Know what I mean? 4|000036|James|11-11-99|guys and gals|i don't know really how to explain it, but there's this certain sort of rare quality that i find extemely attractive in girls. I guess the best way i can explain it is, simplicity with a twist. A girls who's eloquent, not too complicated, but who'll keep me guessing. There's also lots of other little things... i also find girls who are passionate about something attractive... girls who can sing... and girls who can put on a dress and be a lady one day and jeans the next day to sit with me on the dirty grass to watch concert at the park. 2|000023|margaret|11-13-99|ideas for this ubb|I think that with too many forums it becomes crazy convoluted. I never knew this UBB existed, but I like it so far. http://offcentre.net/stasis/ garageland 2|000023|Melissa|11-15-99|ideas for this ubb|Honestly, Olivia, I have no idea. I didn't reply at first because I wanted to think. The only other ubb I've ever used has been Cellulite; well, Plastique, too, if you count that crazy assed mission. Cellulite has a lot of topics about real life and whatnot; Plastique was mostly "bitch forum, rant forum, cut someone down forum, review forum, we're god forum," etc. So I don't really know what ideas are good and will get more posters happy (C'mon, Get Happy) and posting.FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 2|000024|Melissa|11-15-99|graphics programs|I'm cheap, and since having a site is really just a small hobby of mine, I don't think it should cost me any money. Therefore, I only download the free programs.Is there anything better than Paint Shop Pro 3 that I can download and keep for free indefinitely? I had PSP 5 for awhile, but the only way to keep the online version was to frickin write to the folks or something, so Steven couldn't give me a code to register it. That's how I got to keep my image map program, and I was bummed I couldn't keep PSP 5.I don't know anything about any other programs; anything better out there?FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 2|000025|Melissa|11-15-99|help me! Do you have this font?| http://www.midspark.net/melissa/ATOMIC.jpg I thought I had this font, but I don't, and I need it to help plan a band site. I blurred my vision going throught font site after font site trying to find it. It looks pretty basic. Do you have it?FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 2|000025|Melissa|11-15-99|help me! Do you have this font?|[img]http://www.midspark.net/melissa/ATOMIC.jpg[/img] 2|000025|Melissa|11-15-99|help me! Do you have this font?|Olivia, we need an edit button so I don't look like such a fool sticking my img in there when it says no IMG ubb code is allowed! 2|000024|olivia|11-15-99|graphics programs|Everyone's dirty little secret is to find a friend whose brother's girlfriend's sister's mom's brother's best friend owns a registered version of something like Adobe Photoshop, then get that friend to send you a copy. 2|000025|olivia|11-15-99|help me! Do you have this font?|That would mean having to upgrade the ubb to the newer version and getting a lot of other crap I don't want for the ubb. 2|000025|olivia|11-15-99|help me! Do you have this font?|Oh, yes. The font does look pretty basic. Except the M is unique. It threw off any guesses I had. 2|000025|Melissa|11-15-99|help me! Do you have this font?|Well, no edit button then! I'd like to use the font for headers and such for the site, and also because I need it to make the opening graphic. It's a pair of underwear, and we're making a picture of them on our "model" Sandie, and then we wanted to add the Karma in next to it or off the side or whatever in that font. It's driving me fcking crazy trying to find this font. I'm gonna see if any of the hoard at Cellulite have it, and then check the radiation group. Sigh. FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 4|000039|jeffyen|11-16-99|Are you happy?|For more on this topic, you might like to go here...[url]http://www.sjug.org/cgi-bin/forum/Ultimate.cgi?action=threadlist&forum=SinterCom+Forum&number=9&topic=000603-000000-111199-000020.msg&B rowser=other&DaysPrune=30[/url]Glimpses ~ daily journal www.itsnotpersonal.com/glimpses 3|000032|Junior|11-18-99|that religion thing again|If everyone belonged to the same religion... there would be a lot of turmoil within the group. Peace would be more of a figment of your imagination than it is now. It's telling someone what to believe. That's like if I told you what you were to hope and dream. You'd have to get everyone to truely believe in that religion. We all heard of Hitler and his attempt at that. And I am in NO WAY comparing you to Hitler. 1|000024|Junior|11-18-99|Favorite obscure sites/domains|How about http://www.blairprincess.com/ aka the Blair Princess. Of course, if you want to be more serious... allyfarson.com 4|000033|Junior|11-18-99|what magazines do you get?|Lets see... I read Wired, MacAddict, Mac Home (can we tell what kind of comp I have?), Video Business, Games in Business (or something to that sort... get it at work), an occassional Cosmo, and quite a few copmuter part-selling magazines (I like browsing what I cannot have) 4|000031|Junior|11-18-99|something I've learned|I've learned how to learn and let it stick 3|000033|rebecca|11-21-99|I'm staring at a blank topic box (kismet)|No, I don't. 3|000033|Steve Lender|11-22-99|I'm staring at a blank topic box (kismet)|In an either/or question, answering 'no' doesn't make any sense.Or was it your destiny to post such an answer? 3|000032|meredith|11-26-99|that religion thing again|If you want peace, then work for justice.There's no point in belonging to a religion if it's not done under your own free will. I mean, when it boils down to it, religion is what you make of it. 2|000023|meredith|11-26-99|ideas for this ubb|Maybe the topics should be more specific, I always have a hard time posting in this ubb because the catagories are kinda vague. I would definitly volunteer to be a moderator person, I like seeing the prestige next to my name. LOL. I would be willing to moderate boards with topics like social issues, or music or whatever. 4|000040|tumbler|11-26-99|i hate boys|kay, i need some advice really bad. i broke up with my boyfriend last week. we dated for over 6 months. it was ok at first, and then we decided that we missed each other and everything. we decided to leave it as it is and see if we still feel the same way in a couple of weeks (we didnt want to rush anything) but then he ignored me for a couple of days. now, we'll speak sometimes and not speak sometimes. i was really confused so i called to ask him about it and then today i joked around with him at school and he got really mad at me, and we havent spoken since. im really confused as to why he's nice sometimes and not others...is it that he doesnt want me or is it that hes too upset to talk to me?? (that is what he told me last week) any suggestions as to what i should do?? 4|000041|tumbler|11-26-99|i hate boys|kay, i need some advice really bad. i broke up with my boyfriend last week. we dated for over 6 months. it was ok at first, and then we decided that we missed each other and everything. we decided to leave it as it is and see if we still feel the same way in a couple of weeks (we didnt want to rush anything) but then he ignored me for a couple of days. now, we'll speak sometimes and not speak sometimes. i was really confused so i called to ask him about it and then today i joked around with him at school and he got really mad at me, and we havent spoken since. im really confused as to why he's nice sometimes and not others...is it that he doesnt want me or is it that hes too upset to talk to me?? (that is what he told me last week) any suggestions as to what i should do?? 3|000034|Melissa|11-28-99|live shows|This could go in the Real Life forum as well, but I figured it's an opinion, too.Who have you seen perform live and who put on the best show and why? Interested in hearing everyone else's experiences. Some bands do, sadly, only sound nice in the studio. Others sound okay in the studio but kick your ass like you wouldn't expect it live. Anyone gonna share?FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 3|000034|Steve Lender|12-01-99|live shows|Oingo Boingo is terrific to see in concert. Especially the reknowned Halloween show. Sadly, though, they've broken up. 4|000040|Steve Lender|12-01-99|i hate boys|You should forget the whole boyfriend/girlfriend soap opera until you are, at least, out of high school. There isn't much point in it until then. 4|000042|southern gurl|12-02-99|the appropriate age|What do you think is the appropriate age for a teenager to start dating? Obviously for a guy its' 16, since he has to drive *L* ...but for a girl? It seems like now they start when they're 13 or 14..when I was in highschool it was 16...Just from my experience though I think you shouldn't date at all until your at least 17... 4|000042|Steve Lender|12-02-99|the appropriate age|Kids don't know what love is. Boys are over-hormoned sex machines who will say or do anything to breach your breeches. Girls fall for this stuff, and then the instant that they don't feel 'love' they go into a depression spiral.And what's the point? Are they looking for a mate? They wanna shack up and have kids at 16?It's nearly a sure bet that any relation started at such a young age won't amount to much, and will probably end in sadness.But the reason I think this is that the kiddies are confused at their actual goal, and for this I blame TV.So, I don't think that females should start looking for a 'mate' until around 18. Anything younger, and you get into the soap opera, love/depression yoyo.Men don't have a fully developed brain until at least 23. Younger than this, they just wanna fuck.Am I too far off? 4|000040|Steve Lender|12-02-99|i hate boys|I bet you're one of those posters who shows up, looks at a board, thinks it's neat and registers. Then you enter some urgent 'need help' post, and then you forget how exactly it is that you surfed in here. You'll never be back, right? Answer me! You'll never be back will you!? Er...uh...skip that. You don't have to answer. 4|000040|tumbler|12-02-99|i hate boys|im never coming back?? ummm...hi. its not an "urgent, i need help" kind of question. its more of an, "im at my wits end, and have no idea how to reach this boy" kind of question. so even though you think im not computer capable enough of finding this site again...i am. 2|000023|margaret|12-04-99|ideas for this ubb|Sometimes I miss old school threaded bulletin boards, where everything just got tossed in together. Sometimes all the bells and whistles of UBB's gets on my nerves (but that's just my psychosis about the net speaking). I don't think anything will make people post more, it depends on the flavor of the boards. Maybe this is just a quiet and thoughtful place, and that makes it nice. Try new forums! I mean, its nothing sacred that you can't reverse. http://offcentre.net/stasis/ garageland 4|000042|southern gurl|12-06-99|the appropriate age|No, not at all! I find it scary that parents let girls go out and date at 14 or whatever....gawd, at 14 some girls haven't even begun to hit puberty.I blame TV and I blame parents. They won't say no because it is so much easier to just yes and not worry about having to deal with their child. 4|000042|Claire|12-06-99|the appropriate age|or they just have that tv moment where they sit back and say "aww... they're growing up so fast..."I agree, society has made it acceptable for children to date and that's wrong because they don't know what they're doing, as Steve said. I remember when I was 12 I thought I was supposed to have a boyfriend. So I asked a guy out. Then I didn't know what I was supposed to be doing. After a few days it wasn't turning out to be anything except me giving him some marbles and stuff and was not at all what I expected so after 6 days I broke up with him. I'm just saying that kids are dating younger and younger and there are more and more babies being born out of wedlock (or being aborted which is even worse) and it is wrong. But it's just another one of those finely woven webs where no one can do just one thing and have the whole problem be fixed.I don't know what the appropriate age is because everyone is different... but I think at least 16. Even then most people still don't really know what they want or need out of a relationship, though. deep.contradiction.org 4|000040|Steve Lender|12-06-99|i hate boys|I'm glad you've proven me wrong. 4|000040|Steve Lender|12-06-99|i hate boys|Ok, I need some info.How old are you?For what reason is it that you have a boyfriend? 2|000023|Steve Lender|12-06-99|ideas for this ubb|Cellulite has a good balance. There is truth in that having too many forums becomes nutty convoluted. But too few is just as bad. You gotta look at the trend in the posts. Many tend to lovelife stuff. A forum for that would be useful. For a while there, we were debating logic type things, which could have almost had it's own forum.Also, the other thing Cellulite has is an active administrator. She posts frequently and in every direction. She's has the disposition of someone who is happy to draw people to her.You rarely poke your head in here, olivia. You have 128 posts on your own board. I have 104. Shannon has over 2000 posts. You seem to have a UBB because it's a cool gadget to afix to your web page.Please don't take that negatively. I'm really trying to pinpoint this. I love gadgets. But really, it's kind of cold in here. And it's not the appearance.I think what I'm saying is that if you want your UBB to flourish, I think you're going to have to nurture it more. 3|000034|margaret|12-06-99|live shows|I recently saw Tori Amos and Marcy Playground and Ben Harper in concert - and they were all really good.I was really surprised about Marcy Playground - never really paid much attention to them at all - but the lead singer sort of moped about the stage. I was highly amused. It kills me that I didn't know some of the songs they played but the covers were the best. I mean, I used to be a rabid tori amos fan, and it waxes and wans, but she was absolutely unbelievable. Without her band too... She's so much better live - sometimes her studio stuff is almost inorganic. I wanna see depeche mode live...-margaret 2|000023|Steve Lender|12-07-99|ideas for this ubb|Your forums, for example, could use some revamping. You have 4 of em, but they are so closely related that you actually only have 2. 2 network ones, and 2 chatter ones. It's just that no-one can decide which one to put their post in. 3|000034|Melissa|12-07-99|live shows|Collective Soul, surprisingly, puts on a kick ass and high energy show. I say surprisingly not because I was surprised -- they're my favorite band for a reason -- but because all the people who finally go to one of their shows is just, like, completely awed and slack-jawed when they're through. They're definitely a "live" band. Of course, no one would know that, because they're not as "popular" as some other "artists." Heavy quotations around popular and artists. How a band can have eight number one singles, break four or five major records on the music charts, win an unprecedented three Billboard awards for best rock song (two of them back to back, which has never been done before) and still not get any TV exposure is beyond my logic.The point is, they'll kick you ass if you see them live.Oleander put on a great show, but Train was ho-hum. Very little energy with Train. They're weren't bad, not in the least, but their live performance did not leave me yearning for more.Gravity Kills was fun. Everyone should see them just to watch the keyboardist jump on and around his rotating keyboard.FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 2|000023|margaret|12-08-99|ideas for this ubb|I wholly agree about that last point. Why the need for a separate section for domains? They're just websites without banners and short urls and cgi capabilities (sometimes). And it could all be lumped together with the net forum. I like having everything under just one big heading... less forums to check. And if traffic is low (Why isn't there a link on the index of midspark? Just curious...) it won't look discouraging if its all in one big long forum. Its sort of discouraging to come to this forum and see only this one post. If it were all tossed in together, maybe that wouldn't happen. I like this forum, just from surfing it around (and truth be told, am scared to death of the cellulite boards...). Hmm anyway... http://offcentre.net/stasis/ garageland 2|000023|Melissa|12-08-99|ideas for this ubb|There's no reason to be scared of the cellulite board. Dear God, even I post there with regularity, and I even have the audacity to feel comfortably at home in that UBB. FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 2|000023|margaret|12-09-99|ideas for this ubb|Its my paranoia - I'm so awkward online...And I mean, I've made such a fool of myself online so many times now that I go "Oh my god, they must all hate me/have personal vendetta's against me!! Can't post there!" I'm a real boson sometimes. http://offcentre.net/stasis/ garageland 4|000042|margaret|12-09-99|the appropriate age|I've never had a boyfriend, and I'm seventeen... Well, that discounts my first grade romances... I really can't think of anyone I know who I'd like to go out with... and sometimes I get sorta lonely... but brush it off as hormones. Sometimes I wish I could combine the brains of people I know through the net with guy's my own age and in my time zone. Ahh me.... My friend has been going out with a fellow for about two months now, and she's planning to have sex with him soon. And, you know, I never considered myself very moral about this sorta stuff, but I was shocked. And apalled. Because I care about her, and don't want her to give away her virginity to some horny bastard who she's only been going out with for two months. We'll all go to college and she'll never see him again. If they don't break up before that... And I kept thinking "My god, she's too young to have sex!" But then - she's seventeen... and I can think of leagues of girls who have lost their virginity before her. Actually, the really bad part is that she doesn't really want to have sex with him. She feels bad that he's been forced to go without sex for the whole two months. It makes me so upset to see her acting so fucking passive. And I guess I could chalk it up to immaturity... its sad though... http://offcentre.net/stasis/ garageland 4|000040|tumbler|12-12-99|i hate boys|how old am i?? 17. i had a boyfriend because...well...good question. i have no idea. because i liked him?? because he made me feel special and that i had a purpose in life. he boosted my self-esteem. i liked the way i felt about myself when i was around him. but now its over. now all that stuff is gone...i cant really say if i'm happy either way...meaning with or without him. i dont know what i want, or how i want to get there anymore...i feel lost and i dont really know how to get my life back on track...help??? 4|000040|Steve Lender|12-14-99|i hate boys|Did you have sex with him?You have to beware those who flatter you. Flattery is an attempt at manipulation. In this case, I'd figure he would try to manipulate you into sex by boosting your self-esteem.So, either he got sex from you, and then felt uninterested, or he couldn't get sex from you and became uninterested.Granted, this is only on what you've given me. I may be going off in too broad a tangent based on the statements you made about self-esteem.Doesn't it sound terrible to be dependent on anyone else for your self-esteem? 2|000023|Steve Lender|12-14-99|ideas for this ubb|Furthermore, the moderator Purple has like 4 posts, and hasn't been around since May 99.Having a good team of moderators is essential.That's a good idea, margaret; less traffic should have fewer forums. That's brilliant, actually.Olivia!! I know I have a delivery like a hammer, but I'm trying to be constructive. Do you have no replies? Perhaps, if you like the idea of having a UBB, but not having to mess with it much, you could appoint an assistant administrator. 2|000026|margaret|12-15-99|I'm a huge fan...|of robots...and so, if anyone out there is kinda weird and likes robots and might wanna join my webring, i am looking for more people for it. Not a whole lot of people. Just the weird ones. http://offcentre.net/stasis/sub/ would be the url.Oh yes, and sometimes it isn't enough to have an intense longing to be transformed into a robot. You kinda need a webpage. Thats how it all works. http://offcentre.net/stasis/ garageland 2|000023|kT|12-16-99|ideas for this ubb|OMG, Margaret, don't be afraid of the Cellulite board; I post there all the time and I don't think you've made a bad impression. Sometimes I wonder how people could be intimidated, but we've been discussing it a little there, and I think I'm getting a better understanding. I just have a hard time remembering what it's like to be really new. You can always come back, if you want. Or stay here if you feel more comfortable.And for this board, what I noticed was that there are very few topics that have been posted in recently. They're all days old. Maybe everyone here isn't as big of a web junkie as I am, but lively conversation tends to draw people in. 2|000026|kT|12-16-99|I'm a huge fan...|I saw some of the cutest robots one time on TV, on PBS, some special about little robots who they were teaching to play soccer. It was sooo cute. 4|000042|kT|12-16-99|the appropriate age|I dated when I was fifteen, not too seriously, but when I turned sixteen I had a serious boyfriend for nine months. I don't think that was too young. It was a good learning experience. I know some people who have done more (physically) and have regretted it. They've broken up and felt embarrassed or felt like if they could go back and change something, that would be it. I don't know when a good age is, but I think if you don't feel really, really ready, you shouldn't be having sex. 4|000037|kT|12-16-99|Vegatarianism...|I'm vegetarian. Quite a few of my friends are vegan or vegetarian, too. Two or three have also stopped eating meat almost altogether since I stopped.I try to be more vegan, but that's really hard. Maybe someday. Or maybe not... 2|000026|margaret|12-16-99|I'm a huge fan...|They are pretty damn cool things, aren't they? http://offcentre.net/stasis/ garageland 4|000037|margaret|12-16-99|Vegatarianism...|I'm vegetarian just for the simple reason that I don't like meat. Just inherently don't care for it, and never really have... I like dairy products too much to give them up though... http://offcentre.net/stasis/ garageland 2|000026|kT|12-17-99|I'm a huge fan...|The little soccer playing ones? Yeah they're cool but they're also SOOO cute! It's amazing to think that people created them... 4|000037|kT|12-17-99|Vegatarianism...|I started by cutting down. I said I'd only eat meat at one meal a day. I gave up meat for lent ('cause I wanted to see if I could do it; I'm not catholic). Then in the early fall I gave myself three weeks to give up meat completely. Cutting meat out of my diet has made me feel like I'm doing something to help instead of being part of the problem. I guess that only works if you think there is a problem with the billions of animals bred and killed every year to feed people. After a while, it really isn't appetizing anymore. 4|000037|Claire|12-17-99|Vegatarianism...|Yeah, my sister's a vegetarian. She stopped eating meat when she was 7 or 8. She just stopped liking it. deep.contradiction.org 4|000042|cyn|12-19-99|the appropriate age| quote:She feels bad that he's been forced to go without sex for the whole two months.Oh God. That is not the right reason to have sex. Never. I hope he didn't pull a guilt trip on her about being sex-deprived for two months... bah. 4|000037|cyn|12-19-99|Vegatarianism...|I'm an ovo-lacto vegetarian. Have been for all my life. Even as a toddler, I wouldn't touch meat. It just doesn't appeal to me, I guess. 4|000037|Steve Lender|12-20-99|Vegatarianism...|I don't know which is better. Eating meat, or killing it. 2|000023|Steve Lender|12-20-99|ideas for this ubb|Yeah, but you need people to create lively conversation. 4|000042|margaret|12-20-99|the appropriate age|Trust me I know.Goddamit, it makes me so upset. Because I love and care about her and dont want her to do something she's going to regret.I tell her, now and then, how I feel... and I think she's decided to wait on it... which is good... because I love her... and worry... just - completely lacking any connection between sex and love... its awful... http://offcentre.net/stasis/ garageland 3|000035|margaret|12-20-99|Patti smith|I love Patti smith. One whole goddamn lot. I think this goes back to my deep seated desire to be more bohemian than I am. I want to be like this woman. I want to be inside her head.Except - I feel like my ground is encroached upon when my friends start listening to her. I think horrible snide remarks "They don't really understand her songs..." (my brain is very evil. very. I know this.)This is the problem: because I'm so big on hero worship that I make loving and worshiping patti smith an integral part of my character, and if anyone else I know loves and worships her I feel like my ground is encroached upon.Crazy?(mmhmm...)ps if you've never really listened/read what she has to say, this site is good: http://www.oceanstar.com/patti/ http://offcentre.net/stasis/ garageland 2|000023|margaret|12-20-99|ideas for this ubb|Speaking of people: I notice that when Shan posts on other bulletin boards, right in her signature is the link to the UBB. I've known about In a nutshell since early june. And only found this bulletinboard until what - November thirteenth. It's a matter of natural site promotion. Visible links. Everywhere. People aren't gonna visit unless you make it easy to.I'm just sorta... this thread is a month and change old. And nothing's changed... and so I wonder ... 4|000037|southern gurl|12-21-99|Vegatarianism...|I love meat myself. Chicken, beef, pork, turkey.....Mmmmm good 2|000023|olivia|12-21-99|ideas for this ubb|Maybe it's about time I put in a few words here to get a few things straight.Stop assuming that Cellulite is the role model of UBBs. Yeah, it's a great board, but it's not my kind of thing. Wouldn't you think if I wanted a UBB like Cellulite, I'd change a few things around here? My UBB was created back in the day when I participated in the teen domain craze. Look at the kind of forums I have. "Domains." "Real life." There's your evidence right there. I'm not interested in becoming like Cellulite for obvious reasons. Shannon does a good job hosting her board--but at what cost? She hardly updates her page now. Her board is practically all she's known for now. My priorities are a little different from hers especially since I'm working full time and hardly have enough time to work on my own page. You'll notice that I linked to my UBB with an itty bitty thing in the corner of my page, and the actual links to my content were MUCH bigger. That's where my emphasis was. (Or could you not tell?)I didn't want to take my UBB down because I liked keeping it around. It was such a small thing to visit. I like to play God and just watch people talk. So sue me. I know how to make my board flourish and all that crap just like I know how to make my site flourish and all that crap. My original question in this thread was what could I change about the individual forums. I don't want tons of people to visit and I'm not interested in becoming a Cellulite competitor, so I'm not gonna post my link everywhere I go or replace my entire website with a giant link to my board.Steve, I know you're one who's kept the conversations going in here, so thanks. But if this board is such a pain to visit, you know you don't HAVE to come.One more thing that probably doesn't have any relevancy. Purple is the one who's providing the space for Shannon's board. 2|000026|Steve Lender|12-27-99|I'm a huge fan...|I LOVE robots. Since the day I was 10 and watched a japanese movie featuring Giant Robot, right up to Mech Warrior. I've followed engineering university competitions of robots. You know...the kind that battle and try to flip each other. I guess those are more remote control...but but..but.And the Shogun Warriors of the 70's and early 80's. Bad Ass.And like every anime ever made features a robot.Oh yeah. I like robots. 2|000027|Steve Lender|12-27-99|The Spark Pubb|So that's it? You lock the thread and ignore us? You ASKED for advice. It is quite easy to assume that you asked for advice to make your board funner, better, more popular...whatever.And you have to admit that Cellulite is fairing quite well as far as UBBs go. Using it as a model isn't such an outrageous idea. You even used to hang out there, if I recall.It therefore stands to reason that, to make your board better, applying some methods that have worked at Cellulite to the Spark Pubb is a reasonable progression.But if you like being a god, then go right ahead. You notice that under your monarchy that there's only about four of us here now. And why I come, I don't know. I have a respect for you because of the fine work you put into your journal, I guess.But even that is kind of depressing. You don't seem to like anybody. Even your friend "Wendy" you semi-trash behind her back.I apologized for coming on too strongly in the original thread. Some consideration for the ideas wouldn't have been to much to ask. It's clear, though, that your misanthropy runs very deep. Why you'd have a board is still beyond me.So, for trying to help, all I get is the shit. Thanks. 2|000027|margaret|12-29-99|The Spark Pubb|I wrote her a letter and it got no reply. I realized later she had written "First of all, I don't appreciate receiving criticism/opinions on my personal life and/or my webpage from random strangers. The only people I find worth pleasing on the web are the people who've not only made themselves known to me but supported me during my many different phases and are still there to support me after all the changes I've gone through. That means if I'm not mildly acquainted with you, I don't care if you don't like what I'm doing or how I'm doing it. Think what you will; no one's going to stop you. Just don't think I'll listen to you."And I guess I fit into that category that won't get the time of day. I wanted to write all of this up in my pita and wondered if it'd eventually get filed under "Hysterically stupid things margaret does sometimes." And I wonder: Do I have any right to criticize what someone else is doing online? I think (right now) I do, you could just shove it under your mattress and be done with it. Its why I deleted my online journal, I hated the idea that I was poisoning the web with this stuff. When you put yourself online you have to be prepared to deal with people criticizing and critiquing it. It's the only way any of it'll ever get better. So... yeah.. I wonder if you'd play god the same way in real life, and mess with our little online heads because we're only invisible internet folk we don't count for much. this is the letter I sent, for what its worth:I honestly wish you hadn't closed the thread. Maybe it's about time I put in a few words here to get a few things straight.Stop assuming that Cellulite is the role model of UBBs. Yeah, it's a great board, but it's not my kind of thing. Wouldn't you think if I wanted a UBB like Cellulite, I'd change a few things around here? My UBB was created back in the day when I participated in the teen domain craze. Look at the kind of forums I have. "Domains." "Real life." There's your evidence right there. Just because its the child of the domain age doesn't mean that it can't morph into a place for intelligent and thoughtful discussion. Which are SO rare online and would be SO appreciated. And I would love to have an oasis of thought... you know? I'm not interested in becoming like Cellulite for obvious reasons. Shannon does a good job hosting her board--but at what cost? She hardly updates her page now. Her board is practically all she's known for now. My priorities are a little different from hers especially since I'm working full time and hardly have enough time to work on my own page. You'll notice that I linked to my UBB with an itty bitty thing in the corner of my page, and the actual links to my content were MUCH bigger. That's where my emphasis was. (Or could you not tell?)Every site I've seen that's linked Shannon's raves about the essays and the journal. I don't think she's only known for a hopping bulletinboard. But then, its dangerous to make generalizations about the internet... As for not updating... that is sad... and I don't know what to say. Surely there's some middleground... (not that I should speak ... )And hey - it worked. I think I said - I didn't know about the board until very recently. I didn't want to take my UBB down because I liked keeping it around. It was such a small thing to visit. I like to play God and just watch people talk. So sue me. I know how to make my board flourish and all that crap just like I know how to make my site flourish and all that crap. My original question in this thread was what could I change about the individual forums. I don't want tons of people to visit and I'm not interested in becoming a Cellulite competitor, so I'm not gonna post my link everywhere I go or replace my entire website with a giant link to my board.I hope you don't take it down. I liked it. I liked that it was low traffic, I didn't like that I couldn't tell the difference between "Spill it" and "real life." I mean, when I said "There are ways to have a board flourish" I - I guess I thought you wanted something like cellulite. I honestly didn't know. You could've said this a whole lot earlier. I wouldn't feel like such a moron if you had. And I when I read your post, I had every desire never to come back again. Which I suppose you don't really care about... Steve, I know you're one who's kept the conversations going in here, so thanks. But if this board is such a pain to visit, you know you don't HAVE to come.He seems like one cool cat... as near as I can tell. One more thing that probably doesn't have any relevancy. Purple is the one who's providing the space for Shannon's board.That means nothing to me... I LIKE discussion, I am an argument fiend. I love finding places that foster it. I don't always think Celluite fosters particularly interesting debates. It's a lotta "Share your experiences."That sorta stuff...At any rate, you can play god. I'm not trying to tell you anything you didn't know... and ... well... but you knew that... so it goes...-margaret http://offcentre.net/stasis/ garageland 2|000027|Steve Lender|12-29-99|The Spark Pubb|Wow, Margaret. You're so much more level headed than me.And probably more than Olivia, too.I've been here a while. I've read her journal cover to cover. I've mailed her with my thoughts. I've tried to be here for her. She just doesn't give a shit. Oh well. I took my chances. I learned a valuable lesson.Margaret, Cellulite would benefit to have you. Me, I think I'm done here.I hope that lifestyle works out for ya, O. 2|000027|olivia|12-29-99|The Spark Pubb|My journal and my ubb are two completely different things. One existed before the other for years. I established my online presence in the homepage world through my journal and not my ubb. So to have my journal get involved with any of this bullhockey is ridiculous. The ubb is just a toy for me, whereas my journal is a splotchy documentation of my life. I can't keep a perfect record of the events in my life, so you can't assume you're seeing the perfect view of me. There are gaps between the days I update. Things happen in those gaps that I don't write about. I have to save a little bit to share with my friends, and yes, I do have some.Steve, I considered your pointing out my misanthropic tendencies. For a moment, I considered it's truthfulness. But you know what? I don't think I'm as evil and horrible as you imply. I wouldn't bother to hold the door open for people, or make casual conversation with absolute strangers if I were so wrapped up in my own world. You don't know all the people I don't write about. As for "semi-trashing Wendy," I don't see it as any kind of trashing. In my journal, I always refer to Wendy as being more beautiful and sexy than me, and that's what keeps her happy. You're not there when she tells me I have too many pimples or I'm not wearing the right kind of bra, or that my boobs are big but my big stomach equals it out. She trashes me right in my face. Everyone else at work (including my mom) trashes her behind her back. I'm the only coworker besides her parents who does things for her. She's not the perfect companion, but I never claimed to be one either. In fact, I'm pretty sure I've gone over that several times in my journal. I know one of my biggest problems in the past was seeing who my real friends were, and that's an issue I'm still trying to conquer. It's the way I just am. I'm not like my brother, who's extremely antisocial, but my brother and I are made of the same stuff.Margaret, that page I wrote was no response to your e-mail. It was written last spring. But thanks for taking that little quote out of context. You'll see that I added the statement, "This is how I've learned to protect myself from the public while preserving the value of my online journal. You'll have to excuse the attitude." I don't care about receiving criticism for my journal because it's just a journal. It's not a webpage that I'm constantly trying to improve. I'd have more interactive stuff for my page if I wanted to keep visitors coming back. Why else do I not bother to keep a counter or a guestbook or a newsletter? If you think it is the goal of every web author to constantly trying to improve and that an abundance of happy visitors is the most important element to a page, you obviously haven't been around for very long. I've seen many online journallers rise and fall, and the only way I could manage to stick around myself was to turn a deaf ear to critiques and advice from people who don't know me well enough to know what they're talking about. I spend time in my real life trying to break away from what people want me to do as oppposed to what -I- want to do, so what's wrong with doing things my way when I'm online? As for my ubb, yes, I was asking for the criticism there, but I'm not going to welcome advice for me to be just like Cellulite. Don't tell me that I need to learn to deal with criticism. I've dealt with criticism that would probably be enough to crush you. There's always going to be someone out there who "doesn't see the big deal." Are you telling me I have to listen to that person? I've dealt with criticism long enough to know that in order to protect yourself you have to know how to tell apart the good advice from the bad. So what if I come off as a stubborn conceited bitch? I'm not going to let myself be swept away by what other people tell me and become someone who's made up of other people's influences.Anyway, about the whole e-mail thing. I never claimed to be good at answering e-mail. In fact, I suck at it. I only keep in touch with a few people through e-mail. But sorry for not having enough time to sit around the computer for several extra hours. I spent the last couple of weeks working thirteen hour shifts day after day at the mall while still recovering from the flu. I can't get away from dealing with irate customers even in my sleep. And then I have to put up with splitting commission 50/50 with Hairy Brian who only makes one sale for every seven of mine. But oh wait, you don't know about that since I never wrote about it in my journal. 2|000027|Melissa|12-29-99|The Spark Pubb|I like Olivia. I like Steve. I like Cellulite (on the web, baby, just not on the ass). This is me, running from conflict!FRYBREAD POWER http://www.midspark.net/melissa 2|000027|margaret|12-30-99|The Spark Pubb|I feel like such a moron... excuse me as I slink off.. 2|000027|southern gurl|12-30-99|The Spark Pubb|I have to admit I like everyone here too. And I enjoy the Cellulite board also. Maybe everyone just needs to remember this is just a UBB board and chill out.I have to admit I get discouraged when there isn't alot of activity around here. This was like the first UBB that I started posting in. But, we do have to remember that it is Olivia's UBB and she can do whatever she likes with it. Whether we like it or not or whether it is right or wrong. Also, remember she asked for our opinions. She doesn't have to take them.I'm not taking up for anybody here. I hope Steve doesn't leave. He makes me think. I'm just stating my opinion. Like everyone else. 2|000027|kT|12-31-99|The Spark Pubb|I don't want to start any new fighting, but I honestly have a question for Olivia: If you don't want feedback or care what people think, why do you post your journal? Maybe I just haven't been paying attention well enough. Nevermind, this is just going to piss people off... *sigh* 2|000027|southern gurl|12-31-99|The Spark Pubb|I know that question was Olivia, but it made me think. I have my journal for myself. I like feedback, but it isn't a neccessity for me having it. Obviously, since I don't hardly ever get any, but seriously, I have always been under the impression that a journal was for a writer. Offline or Online. 2|000027|cyn|12-31-99|The Spark Pubb|A journal may be for a writer, but posting it online implies that you want it to be seen. And commented on. 3|000036|southern gurl|01-06-100|X-mas presents.|We're at a total standstill. No one has posted anything in 6 days...so to break the ice I'll start the posting up again.I'll start with a few questions for EVERYONE.What did you get for Christmas?Were you disappointed or surprised with what you got?What was your favorite present?Okay, peeps. get answerin. 4|000042|Clarity|01-06-100|the appropriate age|I don't think there's a standard set for teenagers to date. I think dating at 14 is perfectly fine, especially group dates or going to public places where there's alot of people. Sex and the thoughts and emotions that surround it is a totally different issue to me. I know that there's things like rape and that alot of girls aren't ready for what they're getting into and doing it for the wrong reasons, etc., but there's also plenty of young people who know what they're doing and know to wait for the right person. 4|000043|shawn|01-22-100|So... how 'bout them Mets?|Man. My last vist here was... august. Geez. Well, I'm back. Didja miss me? ^^; 4|000042|insightly|02-19-100|the appropriate age|I'm actually getting pretty sick of seeing 13 year old's going out on dates... what is that? It's basically giving them the idea that having sex at a young age is ok, because that is what they learn while dating. I mean, who didn't know what sex was when they were 13?I saw a note that one of my sister's friends [age 13] had written her, and it talked of kissing a guy's soft lips and such. It just seems to me that this is entirely wrong.And this dating leads to pregnancy. I am really so sick of seeing teenagers pregnant. My best friend, who about 5 months ago started a relationship with her first boyfriend, is thinking about sex. She has never once thought of sex. In fact, she has told me in the past that she has thought of it as disgusting. And, to me, the way she talks about what her boyfriend says, it sounds as if he is pushing her into something... it's depressing, because there is nothing I can do about it. I never even see her anymore.I'm 16 and have never had a boyfriend. Sure, this fact can sometimes bug me, but then I see a lot of what happens to a person when they have one, and I decide it just isn't right for me right now. I have the one I love, but that's something different.It just seems to me that kids are rushing into things way to much now and aren't stoping to think of any consequences. They'd rather have a night [if that] or hormornal passion and get pregnant or get an STD, than wait and go on with their future. 3|000036|insightly|02-19-100|X-mas presents.|OK... no one has answered this, but since I am new, and bored and up late as always, I am going to answer it I got stuff for Christmas... a lot of stuff that I really can't remember now. Not that it isn't important, I just don't remember exactly everything I got. Anywho, I'd have to say my favorite present is/was my Eiffel Tower lamp. I've been wanting it forever... especially since last April after my trip, so my parents finally got it for me.It sounds tacky... but it's really nice. I swear. In fact, I saw it in the background of a recent Jack&Jill [on the WB] episode. 4|000044|rebecca|02-25-100|Does anyone still frequent these parts?|I haven't forgotten this dear old board.. 4|000044|southern gurl|02-25-100|Does anyone still frequent these parts?|Nor I. I check it every few days just in case someone posted something.....and every few days I get disappointed If anybody read this...does anyone know what's happened to the Cellulite UBB? I, for some reason, can't access it now. Or is it everybody that is forbidden? 4|000044|insightly|02-25-100|Does anyone still frequent these parts?|I just accessed Cellulite, it worked fine for me. Hmmm. 4|000044|southern gurl|02-28-100|Does anyone still frequent these parts?|well its working fine for me now, I don't know what the problem was. 4|000044|StephanE|03-17-100|Does anyone still frequent these parts?|I sure haven't forgotten the Spark Pubb. 4|000044|StephanE|03-17-100|Does anyone still frequent these parts?|ah, I've posted 31 times and my e-mail address and URL is of last year. 2|000002|Back Off Be4 I jack Off|05-04-100|MP3s|www.napster.com 1|000025|SOSFXP|10-09-100|HI|What? No images? 1|000026|baby_girl43|06-18-101|Eminem, love him or hate him|I love eminem, but my parents hate him. What do you think about him? 4|000042|baby_girl43|06-18-101|the appropriate age|I think a good age to start dating,for a girl is 16, then their mature, and know what their doing 1|000025|baby_girl43|06-18-101|HI|Dude noone replies in this place... what do u mean images? Like peeps in onchat? 4|000044|baby_girl43|06-18-101|Does anyone still frequent these parts?|this place is like dead, their not doin to well are they?? 1|000027|Shawn David Struck|04-05-102|HOLY SHIT!|This board is STILL HERE? :O "Looooong ago, the Chu-chu tribe had a great big guardian god, who could step over huge mountains in one step. The Wondrous Mambo god, yes he was. The Chu-chu Tribe and the Wondrous Mambo god lived happily together in perfect harmony, yes we did. A dreamy sweet existence. But one day, a huuuge red fireball rained down from the sky, and blew away our guardian god as he was asleep. Blam, kablam, bloom! But don't worry! The great big guardian god became a star in the sky! He protects the Chu-chu Tribe, yes he does! Yes, yes, it's a great story... No matter how many times I listen to it, I'm so moved... yes, I am..."-- the legend of the Chu-chu Tribe, as told by a Chu-chu in Shevat 4|000042|ole lady|08-30-102|the appropriate age|I think that because of hormones most guys do have sec on their minds! But if you are wih someone that honestly loves you and cares about how you feel than they will care if you really want to have sex or not. A real "man" (boy) will want you to be interested in having sex, not just lying there for him to...ya know. I don't think there is any "good" age for a girl to start dating. It mostly depends on how mature and intelligent she is. Also depends on who she wants to date and where they want to go. That being said, if people want to have sex than they will. They will find a way. The best thing to do is that if you make a decision, be knowledgable about the possible consequences and protect yourself. 2|000028|sesy1616|05-26-104|WHERE |Where can i give advice ay my own pageBrittany Boerger 4|000043|sesy1616|05-26-104|So... how 'bout them Mets?|oh yeah we all did 1|000026|sesy1616|05-26-104|Eminem, love him or hate him|LOVE HIM EXPECIALLY his new somg my band with d 12 4|000045|sesy1616|05-26-104|MY life is not very good|but its a long story and im sure yall aint gonna want to here me wine 4|000037|CuPIdSjAWs|08-02-104|Vegatarianism...|I just recently became a vegatarian. I've loved animals and the environment all my life and i realized that eating meat was completely against my beliefs and why did i eat meat if I was against the mistreatment of animals in Slaughter Houses? I'm only thirteen and i've been told over and over again that it's stupid that i need meat...Blah Blah Blah...But their all hypocrites and i want to make my own path. And as a teenager with a family that doesnt wish to get involved in protests, vegatarianism is my form of protest for the time being.Devon Kick A** and Play LAXPOWER TO THE HIPPIES